Thanos vs. Hal Jordan/Kyle Rayner/Kilowog

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
YOu do know that the Loeb showing are retconned. IC has retconned everything. As far as I concerned, I have to use the OLD DS showings becuz those are the consistant ones. Aren't you the one talking about consistancy? It isn't consistant at all the Superman be able to beat DS, when DS has beaten him and the entire league effortlessly so many times. As the record stands, DS still has more wins against Superman than Superman has on him. Takion is not the same thing as the source. Highfather did say that the creation is more powerful than the Creator. Highfather is by definition a SKYFATHER. Takion is more powerful, Making him Entity lvl. But he isn't abstract lvl like the source. The source is already shown to be superior to the spectre.

And you do it again.

We don't know what exactly IC retconned in regards to the New Gods, so until we do, its safest to say that it ALL stands.

Not only PC stuff, but post crisis as well.

And Superman beating Darkseid isn't the norm, you're right.

But it happened twice, and he whined in both instances. His average plummets.

Takion is potentially more powerful than everybody else, but he hasn't shown it yet.
We can't give him credit for stuff he didn't do.

So until he does something Entity level, lets hold off on that.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Well evidently when the threat of being erased is removed, Supes>DS. And way to ignore EVERYTHING else I posted.

There is no need. The forum has already argued that when someone says something is a fraction, they mean a very small part. When something is higher in portion, the talker usually says something like, half of my power. A fraction means just a small portion. With Gods, it's usually like less than one percercent.

As far as The power lvl of those Gods, It is infered from ODin, who banished surtur, that DS was more powerful than He and highfather together. I dont need to know how powerful all the pantheon's were. I knwo that DS was more powerful than ODin and Highfather. Highfather is a being that DS has destoyed planets when fighting. SO I know DS would have to be extremely powerful. As far as absorbed power goes, There is nothing to suggest that DS would go thru all of that trouble to absorb power that wears off. As far as stopping time, um no. He hardened time AND space and Stopped the wielder of the god wave who was advancing at the time. It would be something like the juggernaut in motion, and quasar has the power to encase the juggernaut in his quantum powers. He has stopped the motion of the juggernaut. a very powerful feat indeed. You can't lesson ds feat by saying he stopped time when that is clearly NOT what the panel said. IT said he was encased in Hardened time and space like a fly in amber. Going by forum rules, you go by the incarnation that someone says as well. I have said in many of my post pre loeb DS or kirby DS. To which the arguments are still the same. Tainted with hateration. i'm done. goodnight.

Its already been made clear, that Darkseid stopped Ares with prep and technology.

A good techie feat, but it wasn't under his own power. Why you keep bringing it up, is beyond me.

And the thing about the absorbing pantheons thing from the Great Darkness Saga........It hasn't happened yet.

That was a Legion of SuperHeroes story arc, and well into the future.

Current Darkseid doesn't have that energy wellspring, cuz it hasn't happened.

I wonder why i didn't blast you for that months ago?

And i love how you pick and choose what DS you want.

Thats not biased and immature at all............

And Kirby DS wore a cape, and only used the OE sparingly. He wasn't the threat you make him out to be.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Its already been made clear, that Darkseid stopped Ares with prep and technology.

A good techie feat, but it wasn't under his own power. Why you keep bringing it up, is beyond me.

And the thing about the absorbing pantheons thing from the Great Darkness Saga........It hasn't happened yet.

That was a Legion of SuperHeroes story arc, and well into the future.

Current Darkseid doesn't have that energy wellspring, cuz it hasn't happened.

I wonder why i didn't blast you for that months ago?

And i love how you pick and choose what DS you want.

Thats not biased and immature at all............

And Kirby DS wore a cape, and only used the OE sparingly. He wasn't the threat you make him out to be.

The stopping Ares with the Godwave thing, was debunked earlier as a tech feat, not primarily a power feat as implied by NvrhdClue.

The Whole GDS, absorbing pantheons, changing suns and moving planets thing happened in a future, iirc.

Hence the Legion of Superheroes being the guys who handled it.

I'm not sure if it even still stand today.

Originally posted by UniOmni
The stopping Ares with the Godwave thing, was debunked earlier as a tech feat, not primarily a power feat as implied by NvrhdClue.

The Whole GDS, absorbing pantheons, changing suns and moving planets thing happened in a future, iirc.

Hence the Legion of Superheroes being the guys who handled it.

I'm not sure if it even still stand today.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Its already been made clear, that Darkseid stopped Ares with prep and technology.

A good techie feat, but it wasn't under his own power. Why you keep bringing it up, is beyond me.

And the thing about the absorbing pantheons thing from the Great Darkness Saga........It hasn't happened yet.

That was a Legion of SuperHeroes story arc, and well into the future.

Current Darkseid doesn't have that energy wellspring, cuz it hasn't happened.

I wonder why i didn't blast you for that months ago?

And i love how you pick and choose what DS you want.

Thats not biased and immature at all............

And Kirby DS wore a cape, and only used the OE sparingly. He wasn't the threat you make him out to be.

I'm not talking about the GDS. I'm talking about when Highfather went to Odin and told Odin DS was killing off the pantheon's of the universe. That didn't happen in GDS. anyway, The younger version of DS was still more powerful than the GDS DS.

So nvr, you got any other lies you want to tell about DS's power?

Originally posted by darthgoober
So nvr, you got any other lies you want to tell about DS's power?

actually i think your just confused. DS absorbed the power of the pantheons in the story arc where highfather went to Odin for help. That wasn't GDS. Also in GDS, The younger DS, was indeed still more powerful than the Ass kicking GDS DS. Thanks. Im not lying. But if it makes you feel better, feel free to say what you want.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
actually i think your just confused. DS absorbed the power of the pantheons in the story arc where highfather went to Odin for help. That wasn't GDS. Also in GDS, The younger DS, was indeed still more powerful than the Ass kicking GDS DS. Thanks. Im not lying. But if it makes you feel better, feel free to say what you want.

Originally posted by darthgoober
And what about stopping the Godwave? You never mentioned he had tech before.

People never seem to remember that Thanos' Supposed Durability against Galactus had more to do with his tech either. Sue me.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
People never seem to remember that Thanos' Supposed Durability against Galactus had more to do with his tech either. Sue me.

Originally posted by darthgoober
When people talk about Big G and Thanos, they talk about the strength of Thanos's FORCEFIELD(you know, tech). But at least with Thanos, the forcefield is part of his standard equipment, you've been acting like that was just some crap that DS could do at a moments notice or something like that. That crap ain't happening in a forum fight.

It really doesn't need to. DS has shown he has reality manipulation, something thanos never has shown to have, and all kinds of other time and space wielding powers. The OE effects time and space. He's done to people what thanos needed infinity gems to do.

I may have been mistaken about the stories.

I haven't read either in a long time.

But Thanos still beats the lanterns for the majority.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
It really doesn't need to. DS has shown he has reality manipulation, something thanos never has shown to have, and all kinds of other time and space wielding powers. The OE effects time and space. He's done to people what thanos needed infinity gems to do.

Originally posted by darthgoober
So if the OE is capable of doing that without tech, then why did DS need it? Give me an example of him actually doing that on his own.

The OE wipes it's target from Time and Space. he's turned people into kids before. He's teleported people away. all showing his power over time and space. The wielder of the God wave is abstract in power. Of course he can't do that on his own. He could have hurt ares, but not stopped him. He's shown he has the power to hurt abstract lvl beings.

Originally posted by UniOmni
I may have been mistaken about the stories.

I haven't read either in a long time.

But Thanos still beats the lanterns for the majority.

How? These lanters are rediculous.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The OE wipes it's target from Time and Space. he's turned people into kids before. He's teleported people away. all showing his power over time and space. The wielder of the God wave is abstract in power. Of course he can't do that on his own. He could have hurt ares, but not stopped him. He's shown he has the power to hurt abstract lvl beings.

Originally posted by darthgoober
So basically your saying that he's NEVER shown the ability to solidify time and space on his own right?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
He's actually shown more. REality manipulation, Time and Space manipultion as well.