Thanos vs. Hal Jordan/Kyle Rayner/Kilowog

Started by nvrbeenwthagirl6 pages

Originally posted by darthgoober
Has he ever done it? No speculation or BS sidestepping, has he ever shown the ability?

He's turned beings from Old to young, he's Tp people from vast distances away from him, to him , he's tp'd them away from him as well. In GDS, he manipulated reality against the legion.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
He's turned beings from Old to young, he's Tp people from vast distances away from him, to him , he's tp'd them away from him as well. In GDS, he manipulated reality against the legion.

HAS HE EVER SOLIDIFIED TIME AND SPACE UNDER HIS OWN POWER? This is not that difficult of a question.

Originally posted by darthgoober
HAS HE EVER SOLIDIFIED TIME AND SPACE UNDER HIS OWN POWER? This is not that difficult of a question.

Now your just being stupid. If he can manipulate reality, space, and time, of course he can. Your trying to use a specific story element to make a point. and it's a dumb one. I could say, has thanos ever made a force field under his own power, just becuz he used a tech one against Big G. Of course I dont' ever have to see him make one to know that it's in his powerset to make one if he's blocked energy blast with smaller shields.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Now your just being stupid. If he can manipulate reality, space, and time, of course he can. Your trying to use a specific story element to make a point. and it's a dumb one. I could say, has thanos ever made a force field under his own power, just becuz he used a tech one against Big G. Of course I dont' ever have to see him make one to know that it's in his powerset to make one if he's blocked energy blast with smaller shields.

But...Thanos HAS made forcefields under his own power - against Fallen one, Thor, etc.

Has darkseid ever solidified spacetime under his own power?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Now your just being stupid. If he can manipulate reality, space, and time, of course he can. Your trying to use a specific story element to make a point. and it's a dumb one. I could say, has thanos ever made a force field under his own power, just becuz he used a tech one against Big G. Of course I dont' ever have to see him make one to know that it's in his powerset to make one if he's blocked energy blast with smaller shields.

No I'm pointing out a lie on your part. So I ask again...

HAS HE EVER SOLIDIFIED TIME AND SPACE UNDER HIS OWN POWER?

Originally posted by darthgoober
No I'm pointing out a lie on your part. So I ask again...

HAS HE EVER SOLIDIFIED TIME AND SPACE UNDER HIS OWN POWER?

He's certainly immobilized beings. I dont' knwo what power he used as there was no specific as to how he did it. So he may have and not explained it. Do characters have to explain how they do everything every single time they do it? Nope. SO you dind't catch me in any lie. He has immobilized beings before. Given that he controls, time, space, and reality, and even can kill souls, I would gather he did it the same way or some similiar method on a smaller scale.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
He's certainly immobilized beings. I dont' knwo what power he used as there was no specific as to how he did it. So he may have and not explained it. Do characters have to explain how they do everything every single time they do it? Nope. SO you dind't catch me in any lie. He has immobilized beings before. Given that he controls, time, space, and reality, and even can kill souls, I would gather he did it the same way or some similiar method on a smaller scale.

You DID lie(at least kind of), because you've been acting like the whole "Godwave" freezing was something that DS did himself. But it turns out that he used tech.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
A character like thanos is a fan fav. And therefor not looked at with scrutiny. He constantly has good showings against Jobbers Like the surfer who forget all of his powers, Odin, who could just have steam rolled right over him, Tyrant, who played with thanos AND thanos had morg's power as well. The battles Thanos has had with top tiers don't impress me. It's not like he's fought Gladiator, a non jobbing Silver Surfer, and BRB. He's fought the like of Professor hulk, who isn't that strong at base, the thing, a version of THor I considered weak and in B and T, Out of his mind, and Herc. Thanos isn't fighting Multiple Hi tiers who have more than strength going for them. So it pisses me off to no avail for people to give so much credit without a scrutinizing eye. but they sure as hell can scruitinize characters they dont' like that much.

he didn't have his power he was just using the orb as a weapon

Originally posted by Soljer
But...Thanos HAS made forcefields under his own power - against Fallen one, Thor, etc.

Has darkseid ever solidified spacetime under his own power?

I don't think THanos can make forcefields under his own power. I always viewed that as technology.

Remember, its been revealled that he taps energy from his ship, and Odin made mention of him tapping into some dark reserve of outside energy in their battle.

Originally posted by UniOmni
The stopping Ares with the Godwave thing, was debunked earlier as a tech feat, not primarily a power feat as implied by NvrhdClue.

The Whole GDS, absorbing pantheons, changing suns and moving planets thing happened in a future, iirc.

Hence the Legion of Superheroes being the guys who handled it.

I'm not sure if it even still stand today.

Darkseid specifically says that his power had "ebbed" in that future, though.

Meaning he was actually LESS powerful in that story than what he used to be (ie, currently).

Great Darkness Saga, that is.

And as previously stated, the Pantheon killing thing was something from Jack Kirby's Fourth World (Later followed up upon in Orion), nothing to do with Great Darkness Saga.

Originally posted by Desaad
I don't think THanos can make forcefields under his own power. I always viewed that as technology.

Remember, its been revealled that he taps energy from his ship, and Odin made mention of him tapping into some dark reserve of outside energy in their battle.

Nah, he has himself the capability to make and shape forcefields.

Originally posted by Soljer
Nah, he has himself the capability to make and shape forcefields.

Where was this stated?

Originally posted by Desaad
Where was this stated?

Stated?

I don't remember where it was stated "Spiderman can shoot webbing," he just does.

It hasn't been STATED - it's just been shown, exemplified, and put on exhibit. Time and time again.

I ask, because in past times it was made clear that the forcefields were technological nature. I continued on with that assumption, and its worked quite well since then.

Unless you have specific evidence to the contrary, I can't help but view your point as more speculative than factually based.

Not saying that you aren't right, mind you, I'd just ask for a reference.

Well, I'm pretty sure (100%) Invisible Woman doesn't use tech to make forcefields, I don't think it's much different for Thanos.

Even if his shields ARE tech, he's always had them, and you can't really take them away from him. That's like saying Iron Man can't use his suit because it's tech.

Originally posted by MightyEInherjar
Well, I'm pretty sure (100%) Invisible Woman doesn't use tech to make forcefields, I don't think it's much different for Thanos.

Even if his shields ARE tech, he's always had them, and you can't really take them away from him. That's like saying Iron Man can't use his suit because it's tech.

THe point is, DS has always had New God Tech, Which is superior to most any tech in comics. So if DS is shown in any battles, Then he should have use of his New God Tech.

Does he always have access to New God tech, or does he always have it equipped? WW always has access to her sword, shield and what not, but it's not part of her regular equipment, so it shouldn't be included with her in a fight, just like other tech that's is accessible but not standard.

Originally posted by MightyEInherjar
Does he always have access to New God tech, or does he always have it equipped? WW always has access to her sword, shield and what not, but it's not part of her regular equipment, so it shouldn't be included with her in a fight, just like other tech that's is accessible but not standard.

ALL of WW's weapons are always right there with her in her mini disc of Linishar. As for DS. There is no reason to think Odin can defeat DS where the Spectre Fails. THe only time we really see DS held in check is by the Source wall. These "defeats" at the hand of Superman are all mired by the fact that Superman is Protected by the Source and has had help. Superman has gotten his ass kicked so many times by DS it isn't even funny. I'll stand by my statement, Until Odin can hurt the LT, He's not on DS level. Becuz DS hurt the spectre and The AM.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Now your just being stupid. If he can manipulate reality, space, and time, of course he can. Your trying to use a specific story element to make a point. and it's a dumb one. I could say, has thanos ever made a force field under his own power, just becuz he used a tech one against Big G. Of course I dont' ever have to see him make one to know that it's in his powerset to make one if he's blocked energy blast with smaller shields.

It's not an "of course he can" scenario. Gardener had the Time gem, and he never stopped time of his own accord, and couldn't. You don't know if they can or not if they haven't done it before when it comes to that sort of power.

Originally posted by Desaad
I ask, because in past times it was made clear that the forcefields were technological nature. I continued on with that assumption, and its worked quite well since then.

Unless you have specific evidence to the contrary, I can't help but view your point as more speculative than factually based.

Not saying that you aren't right, mind you, I'd just ask for a reference.


This doesn't look like a tech forcefield to me, he isn't wearing any armour and his ship was destroyed just moments earlier:

http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fallen44os.jpg

this doesn't look like tech either, although not exactly a forcefield for himself:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/CelestialQuest6I.jpg