Darth Nihilus and Darth Sion vs the ROTS jedi order

Started by Lightsnake31 pages
Lightsnake Senior Member

Originally posted by Kadesh
Visas was on the planet the whole time, she was standing on top of the so called remains of the pyro clastic surge, and prove it was the enviroment that killed everybody. Had it been enviromental stuff, she would have died as well, Do you know how devastating a volcanic eruption is? Do you know if you stand in the way of a surge you have no chance of survival? Did you know if it was the volcanos the fumes would kill visas and nihilus?

Really now? PRove she would have. Since she survived in spite of the SEEN disaasters- we see the volcano erupting- throws a monkey wrench into things

Then describe how it workds again this brings me back to the bulletproof vest, it blocks bullets well, but can it block an rpg? Hell no.

Don't have to: the fact is Yoda knows it.

Did you play K2? im sure you did, when visas demonstrates her force sighting ability you will know what i mean

It's not precognition

Then describe how it works

For the last time, Kadesh, and I mean, for the last time: It has not been decribed. It just said he knows a defense for all. They didn't go into complete and utter detail

Again visas managed to survive the so called disasters. Again, pyroclastic surges from mountains takes hours to even unleash, i studied the events of krakotoa , you didnt, you dont know. And nihilus didnt chose visas randomly, he spared her life, she herself and kreia stated that. Again how is one person going to survive a surge, earthquake this and that? The point is, it wasnt the landscape, it was the drain. And had the world erupted, none of the other jedis would have survived

I could call you out on this easily. So, Nihilus spared her knowingly? Meaning he protected her? Ok.
Oh, btw, we see said disasters happening on Katarr.
Try again

What if theres no antidote? What if it can kill you in a matter of minutes? What if the antidote isnt strong enough?

Whoops. Apparently since it's said he knows how to block it, there is.
Too bad!


But by your quote "He can defend all techniques of the dark side" means he can block palpatines techniques is it? Of course not, palpatines drain would rape yoda

Whoops. Palpatine's stronger than Nihilus. Bad example

Sexyback Restricted

Originally posted by Sexyback
2. In regards to Yoda knowing a defence to every dark side technique, that alone doesn't necessarily mean that he would be able to block the drain. Quordis knew a defence against force choke, that didn't stop Bane from tearing through his defences and choking him like a b1tch.

3. I have Power of the Jedi Lightsnake, and nowhere in Yoda's section does it say that stuff about Yoda...

How about you answer this LS?

Darth Sexy Restricted

Palpatine might be stronger than Nihilus but the technique Nihilus has is undefendable. I'm sure Palpatine's drain is also undefendable. However, since Sidious can loop out of the force supposedly(as lightsnake stated once), then Nihilus doesn't have much of a chance.

Lightsnake Senior Member

Once again: No it's not.
The Jedi have had 4000 years, The Exile, Visas and others to help them along, plus Ni's own holocron in all likelihood.

Drains are not defendable. And what makes you so sure the defense Yoda has isn't looping? He's 900, think he hasn't come into contact with the Fallanassi before they went into hiding?

I can't believe you take everything based on one line from Traya

Lightsnake Senior Member
Originally posted by Sexyback
How about you answer this LS?

Why should I? You're a fool and a liar. Best to ignore you

Kadesh Restricted

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Really now? PRove she would have. Since she survived in spite of the SEEN disaasters- we see the volcano erupting- throws a monkey wrench into things
Because people die in surges, No way in hell you can survive one, Real life and every major eruption on earth proves this, Science > you Again prove it was a volcano
Originally posted by Lightsnake

Don't have to: the fact is Yoda knows it.
Knowing it doesnt mean it can be effective am i correct? i may know how to kill a person but do i know a right way to kill him swiftly?

Originally posted by Lightsnake

For the last time, Kadesh, and I mean, for the last time: It has not been decribed. It just said he knows a defense for all. They didn't go into complete and utter detail
If it cannot be described then it is
Useless and cannot be used in a debate no matter what the circumstance

Originally posted by Lightsnake

I could call you out on this easily. So, Nihilus spared her knowingly? Meaning he protected her? Ok.
Oh, btw, we see said disasters happening on Katarr.
Try again

"Why did he spare the Miraluka? It may have been the last shred of humanity in him."
This apparantly is when the exile spoke to kreia and asked, why did he spare her, and that was the answer, Does mother nature spare humans with its own will? No
Originally posted by Lightsnake

Whoops. Apparently since it's said he knows how to block it, there is.
Too bad!
Whoops! by your logic, yoda > sidious because he can block all dark side techniques

Originally posted by Lightsnake

Whoops. Palpatine's stronger than Nihilus. Bad example

Whoops yoda is stronger than palpatine according to your logic

Darth Sexy Restricted

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Once again: No it's not.
The Jedi have had 4000 years, The Exile, Visas and others to help them along, plus Ni's own holocron in all likelihood.

Drains are not defendable. And what makes you so sure the defense Yoda has isn't looping? He's 900, think he hasn't come into contact with the Fallanassi before they went into hiding?

I can't believe you take everything based on one line from Traya

Um because she knows what she is talking about and has been truthful unless she lets her personal feelings into the conversation? You just don't believe her because it goes against what you believe, that the PT Jedi are invincible. Now, that technique is undefendable. I'm sure they MIGHT have a defense for it on a small scale, just like they might for the force drain, but a drain/consumption of that magnitude cannot be stopped by one jedi, so stop trying to argue that it can.

Your speculation on his holocron is just that. Since he found all 3 holocrons on Korriban, it's unlikely that Sidious had them, otherwise there would be no point to leave them on Korriban. Again this is a stupid inconsistency as to how the hell he found 3 holocrons that nobody could find for 4,000 years but he did..

Prove Yoda can loop in the force, otherwise your quote in whatever source you claims to exist, doesn't work. Not to mention you can't find the source for it so it's an ambiguous quote that won't save your argument.

Sexyback Restricted
Originally posted by Lightsnake
Why should I? You're a fool and a liar. Best to ignore you

LOL! 😆
I'm a liar?

Kadesh Restricted

One thing, Qordis knew techniques to block force grip, yet he couldnt defend when bane choked the shit out of him

Darth Sexy Restricted

Ok as far as I'm concerned this debate is over. There's no proof anybody has a defense for these techniques, and if they do, there's no proof they can defend against these techniques on such great scales. So if Nihilus gets a chance to eat Yoda before Yoda slices him up, it's over for Yoda.

Lightsnake Senior Member

It's been four thousand years for starters.

Oh, and Krayt apparently got his holocrons from Palpatine's private collection, since Palpatine and the Jedi had all the Sith holocrons in existence. Palpatine had few until the raid on the Jedi temple.
I'd like you to prove this drain is undefendable besides a defunct, four thousand year old quote.

The Jedi once had contact with the Fallanassi before the rise of the Empire, btw, from the Black Fleet Crisis trilogy. Akanah's mother mentions him extremely personally- As 'the old flirt'

Once again: Yoda's more powerful than Nihilus, therefore, this 'magnitude' crap is ridiculous because of the differences.

Oh, and never mind the Wall of Light the entire 10,000 man Order would generate together. Seriously.

Kadesh Restricted

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Ok as far as I'm concerned this debate is over. There's no proof anybody has a defense for these techniques, and if they do, there's no proof they can defend against these techniques on such great scales. So if Nihilus gets a chance to eat Yoda before Yoda slices him up, it's over for Yoda.
Agreeable then,

Lightsnake Senior Member

It's been four thousand years for starters.

Oh, and Krayt apparently got his holocrons from Palpatine's private collection, since Palpatine and the Jedi had all the Sith holocrons in existence. Palpatine had few until the raid on the Jedi temple.
I'd like you to prove this drain is undefendable besides a defunct, four thousand year old quote.

The Jedi once had contact with the Fallanassi before the rise of the Empire, btw, from the Black Fleet Crisis trilogy. Akanah's mother mentions him extremely personally- As 'the old flirt'

Once again: Yoda's more powerful than Nihilus, therefore, this 'magnitude' crap is ridiculous because of the differences.

Oh, and never mind the Wall of Light the entire 10,000 man Order would generate together. Seriously.

You love whining about ambiguous quotes.

Lightsnake Senior Member
Originally posted by Kadesh
Agreeable then,

Hardly. FFS, I've provided the proof

Darth Sexy Restricted

Originally posted by Lightsnake
It's been four thousand years for starters.

Oh, and Krayt apparently got his holocrons from Palpatine's private collection, since Palpatine and the Jedi had all the Sith holocrons in existence. Palpatine had few until the raid on the Jedi temple.
I'd like you to prove this drain is undefendable besides a defunct, four thousand year old quote.


No lightsnake, he found the holocrons on Korriban. Since it makes no sense that Sidious would leave them there if he found them, your quote is shot to hell as usual. Logic>ambiguous crap.

The Jedi once had contact with the Fallanassi before the rise of the Empire, btw, from the Black Fleet Crisis trilogy. Akanah's mother mentions him extremely personally- As 'the old flirt'

Once again: Yoda's more powerful than Nihilus, therefore, this 'magnitude' crap is ridiculous because of the differences.


A lot of people are more powerful than him, but he has the natural ability to drain worlds. So Yoda being more powerful than him has nothing to do with his natural ability, something Yoda cannot handle.

Oh, and never mind the Wall of Light the entire 10,000 man Order would generate together. Seriously. [/B]

Jesus, you're lucky I don't know the specific names to all of these logical fallacies, otherwise I'd call you out.

Darth Sexy Restricted
Originally posted by Lightsnake
Hardly. FFS, I've provided the proof

You've provided nothing. You've hidden besides ridiculously ambiguous quotes that you still can't manage to find yourself. Logic>nonsense. And yes I love whining about ambiguous quotes, you love not providing an argument when it comes to the PT Jedi. "Well this may have happened and omg this PROBABLY happened and let me give you more theoretical nonsense because I have a hard time defending the ambiguous quote". Good job..

Lightsnake Senior Member

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
No lightsnake, he found the holocrons on Korriban. Since it makes no sense that Sidious would leave them there if he found them, your quote is shot to hell as usual. Logic>ambiguous crap.

Prove it!
Fact: It's stated The Jedi and Palpatine had all the Sith holocrons in existence.
If you can read, you'd realize that wasn't the first time KRayt had tried to use them.
Oh, and since Krayt's seat of power IS Korriban, the heart of his Order, it makes sense for him to be there


A lot of people are more powerful than him, but he has the natural ability to drain worlds. So Yoda being more powerful than him has nothing to do with his natural ability, something Yoda cannot handle.

Bullshit!
"He has mastered defenses against all the weapons and powers of the Dark side."
Whoops!


Jesus, you're lucky I don't know the specific names to all of these logical fallacies, otherwise I'd call you out.

Awww, it's getting angry, how cute!

Kadesh Restricted
Originally posted by Lightsnake
Hardly. FFS, I've provided the proof

Pure Bullsh!t, All you gave was nothing except your opinions

Lightsnake Senior Member

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
You've provided nothing. You've hidden besides ridiculously ambiguous quotes that you still can't manage to find yourself. Logic>nonsense. And yes I love whining about ambiguous quotes, you love not providing an argument when it comes to the PT Jedi. "Well this may have happened and omg this PROBABLY happened and let me give you more theoretical nonsense because I have a hard time defending the ambiguous quote". Good job..

Whoops, you lose!

Lightsnake Senior Member
Originally posted by Kadesh
Pure Bullsh!t, All you gave was nothing except your opinions

Whoops!
"Mastered a defense against all techniques and weapons of the Dark Side."
Pwned!