Darth Nihilus and Darth Sion vs the ROTS jedi order

Started by General Kenobl31 pages

Quotes and Analysis from the Star Wars Databank

From the profile of Jedi Master Yoda:

contest between the most powerful practitioners of the Force's light and dark sides.

This line from the Star Wars Databank is in regards to the Duel in the Senate Chamber between the Dark Lord Palpatine and the Jedi Grandmaster Yoda. The line proves that up to that point in time, Sidious and Yoda were the most powerful practitioners of the Force. In the duel, while Sidious bested Yoda by knocking him down the pods, in fact the fight ended in a stalemate with neither side overcoming the other.

Sidious's Force Streght = Yoda's Force Strength
Sidious's Force Strength > Nihilus's Force Strength
Ergo, by the Transitive Property of Equality:

Yoda's Force Strength > Nihilus's Force Strength

With evidence from Lightsnake proving that Yoda had a defense for every Light and Dark Side technique, and Yoda being the most powerful Light side user of the Force up to that point of time and him having a greater Force strength than Nihilus, I'm sure we can conclude that Yoda, in some way possible, can block Nihilus's Ultra Death Field.

More proof on how powerful ROTS Sidious was? Well take a look at this:

From the profile of Palpatine:

He is the most powerful practitioner of the Sith ways in modern times. He studied the ancient ruins on the Sith mausoleum world of Korriban. He unlocked secrets of the Force from a captured Jedi Holocron. The dark side energies flowing through Palpatine's body were so intense, that they ravaged his mortal frame.

Along with other sources, such as the tNEC, etc., Palpatine is the most powerful Sith Lord in existence. Yoda was equivalent to that might. If this is the case, then it seems very very very likely that Yoda can defeat Nihilus.

Want more evidence Nihilus supporters? Well, that'll come soon....

This is General Kenobl signing off.....

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Blah blah blah, whine whine whine

Don't be ridiculous Lightsnake, it's been proven that the CW cartoons contradict with the movies in regards to how skillful the jedi are, Yoda isn't as strong as the cartoon makes him out to be, it can't be used in a debate, period.

Don't be ridiculous Lightsnake, it's been proven that the CW cartoons contradict with the movies in regards to how skillful the jedi are, Yoda isn't as strong as the cartoon makes him out to be, it can't be used in a debate, period.

Not everything in the Cartoons is exaggerated, just 95% of it is. From the strength of Yoda I see from different sources, I wouldn't be surprised if he could move entire ships like he did in the Siege of Coruscant.

Yet he struggled with that crane that was falling on Anakin and Obi-Wan in AotC...
If he was as powerful as the CW cartoon made him out to be, he would have just instantly picked the crane up like it was nothing, and hurled it at Dooku killing him.
And name one thing from another source that Yoda has done which is on par with the stuff he does in the cartoons.

Yet he struggled with that crane that was falling on Anakin and Obi-Wan in AotC...

Yoda was in the middle of a duel, Dooku knocks down the base of a pillar and lets it fall on Kenobi and Skywalker. Yoda had to break himself from the battle and land on his feet, while literally simultaneously catching the gigantic pillar falling on the two Jedi. He then had to lift it up and drop it behind his fellow Jedi.

As for the proof of his power, READ UP on my ANALYSIS.

again: More whiny bullshit from the forum's clown

@ Lightsnake

Did you like my Analysis above?

OK Lightsnake, how about not echoing Sexy whenever I disagree with you, KTHXBAI!! 👆 👆

General Kenobl, all that proves is that Yoda was the most powerful lightsider at the time, which noone would disagree with.

And Yoda had more than enough time to break himself out of the duel and lift the crane, it was the fact that he struggled with it that proves that his TK ability is pretty pathetic.

It proves that he's very powerful in the Light, stronger in the Force than Nihilus, and can probably block the Ultra Death Field.

Wow, I can't believe some of the stuff you are spewing out of your fat potato-trap.

Hold up, how does anything in there prove that Yoda is stronger with the force than Nihilus?

Transitive Property, my friend.

You're wrong! How about explaining yourself, just saying 'Transitive Property, my friend' doesn't quite cut it. Though I'm pretty sure what you're trying to say, and I'll respond to that: nothing in your analysis proves that Sidious by RotS was the most powerful sith ever, so saying that Yoda is equal to Sidious (which, btw, you didn't actually effectively prove) in no way proves that he was above Darth Nihilus.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Ok, how long was Visas on the planet? And you mean volcanos wouldn't leave corpses stripped to the bone? Ok, prove Nihilus's drain did it and not the environmental effects...
Oh, wait....
Visas was on the planet the whole time, she was standing on top of the so called remains of the pyro clastic surge, and prove it was the enviroment that killed everybody. Had it been enviromental stuff, she would have died as well, Do you know how devastating a volcanic eruption is? Do you know if you stand in the way of a surge you have no chance of survival? Did you know if it was the volcanos the fumes would kill visas and nihilus?

Originally posted by Lightsnake

For nthe last time, IT DOESN'T HAVE A NAME.
Then describe how it workds again this brings me back to the bulletproof vest, it blocks bullets well, but can it block an rpg? Hell no.

Originally posted by Lightsnake

Um, no. Seeing through the force means nothing more than regular vision
Did you play K2? im sure you did, when visas demonstrates her force sighting ability you will know what i mean

Originally posted by Lightsnake

It doesn't have a name. What part of that don't you understand? We just know it exists by virtue of another technique
Then describe how it works

Originally posted by Lightsnake

Look who's talking. See the world dying? That'd be because said world is dying. As such, it'd give off tremor, resulting in earthquakes, volcanos and general destruction that'd have nothing to do with Nihilus

Again visas managed to survive the so called disasters. Again, pyroclastic surges from mountains takes hours to even unleash, i studied the events of krakotoa , you didnt, you dont know. And nihilus didnt chose visas randomly, he spared her life, she herself and kreia stated that. Again how is one person going to survive a surge, earthquake this and that? The point is, it wasnt the landscape, it was the drain. And had the world erupted, none of the other jedis would have survived

Originally posted by Lightsnake

And what if a human has an antidote or immunity?
Btw, bad metaphor
What if theres no antidote? What if it can kill you in a matter of minutes? What if the antidote isnt strong enough?

Originally posted by Lightsnake

Palpatine is much stronger than Yoda by that stage.
Nihilus is not.
But by your quote "He can defend all techniques of the dark side" means he can block palpatines techniques is it? Of course not, palpatines drain would rape yoda

good lord. For the last time. Nihilus' thing was more than a force drain, it was an eating.consumption of the force. Yoda does NOT have a technique for that, it's very simple So if he cannot loop out of the force, then he's toast.

Agreeable, and Sexy do you agree that LS said its actually the volcano and not the ultimate death field?(This is what i call nihilus techinique) i know i dont

I have no idea what you two are talking about anyways.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
good lord. For the last time. Nihilus' thing was more than a force drain, it was an eating.consumption of the force. Yoda does NOT have a technique for that, it's very simple So if he cannot loop out of the force, then he's toast.

That's basically what the force drain is Sexy. You drain the force from another to 'feed' yourself, so to speak.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
I have no idea what you two are talking about anyways.
He is claiming that the black cloud is not the drain but the volcano

I think it's very unlikely that it is a Volcano.