Actual proof that vader used force deflection In TESB and not the glove

why do you keep calling me a liar just because we have differing views? i havent even said i dont believe vader used the force, i said its just more likley that he didnt. to me, the quote from the visual dictionary implied vader cant use the force to stop lightning. if im wrong im wrong, and its not even the issue being discussed so its not really important.

its not about different views, you said the visual guide did put that he cant block it, while i checked it and there was no where where it stated he cant block lightning.

You see? Again you imply the quote was referring that vader cant use the force to stop lightning, No where it states that, that is why i called you a liar ok?

Invulnerable: incapable of being wounded, hurt, or damaged.

Vulnerable: capable of or susceptible to being wounded or hurt, as by a weapon: a vulnerable part of the body.

Here are the definitions to vulnerable and invulnerable. Kadesh, you keep giving this quote about how Vader can't produce Force Lightning and is not invulnerable to it because of his prosthetic limbs. But then you state that that doesn't mean he can't block it.

Now, my English might be a little off, even though I do have a degree in it, and teach it everyday to junior high and college students, but last time I checked, if you are not invulnerable to something, then you CAN'T block it (invulnerable means that you can block it).

It didn't look to me like Vader was blocking all the Force Lightning that he took from the Emperor in ROTJ. I know, though... the thread is about blaster shots, but I'm about tired of seeing that whole "can't block Force Lightning" quote being taken out of context. My suggestion is to do what I do: get a dictionary. Better yet, use it.

So? Humans are vulnerable to radioactivity too, But we have the protection, the suit. Being vulnerable doesnt mean you cant block it. Humans are vulnerable to so many things, yet we have come up with defences, its the same for vader, he has a defence: Force shield

And vader has a technique which serves as a protection: Force shield as he demonstrated in the comic.

He only dies IF he comes into contact with the lightning, Not when the lightning hits the layer of the force vader throws up to shield himself.

And didnt block the lightning from the emperor? He was more on saving his son then himself, so why bother to block the lightning? Also that he knew about the things he did as vader and he knew it was his time to go, he chose to die and did it without hesitation.

My suggestion is do what i do, research, then argue

We're talking about your inability to understand language here. You are almost as persistent in an argument as Advent. At least she appears to have a brain. You're arguing just to argue. Simply shut the hell up until a clue finally pops into your head... That is, after you pop your head out of your ass. Geez...

lol! I just noticed your tagline in your sig! HAHAHA! "Facts, the Anti-fanboy solution"

Facts: you don't have them.
Fanboy: Vader is definitely my favorite Star Wars character, but damn you are all over his jock strap.
Solution: Grow your own nuts, and get off of his!

Originally posted by Nupe Kill Droma
We're talking about your inability to understand language here. You are almost as persistent in an argument as Advent. At least she appears to have a brain. You're arguing just to argue. Simply shut the hell up until a clue finally pops into your head... That is, after you pop your head out of your ass. Geez...

And you have no right to tell me to shut the hell up, i started this thread i have the right to talk to who ever the hell i want, You dont start acting big by telling people to shut up this that blah blah blah Again this is a debating forum so i have the right to argue all i want,
you got that? KTHXBAI

Originally posted by Nupe Kill Droma
lol! I just noticed your tagline in your sig! HAHAHA! "Facts, the Anti-fanboy solution"

Facts: you don't have them.
Fanboy: Vader is definitely my favorite Star Wars character, but damn you are all over his jock strap.
Solution: Grow your own nuts, and get off of his!

Lol you want to troll is it?

lol! I can say what I want, dipshit. Let's see... this is a public forum, where you and I, not to mention countless others, are members of said forum. That means that whatever you post is my business. If you don't want people to respond to your posts, then don't post them, fanboy.

exactly, you think you got a degree, you think you are big, When you lose out on an argument, you start cussing at other people, i have advice for you, GROW UP

I am grown. That's why I use "grown up" language. lol! I don't think I have a degree... I actually do have one. And I didn't lose out on an argument... In fact, I didn't say anyone did. But I did say pop your head out of your ass, which you still have yet to do.

sorry for the edits...

yup, you have grown up physically, But you have a mentality of a child.
You argued and when people argue back, you start trolling.

Anyways i got a question.

Just how old are you Nupe kill Droma? You argue like a 10 year old

Originally posted by Nupe Kill Droma
I am grown. That's why I use "grown up" language. lol! I don't think I have a degree... I actually do have one. And I didn't lose out on an argument... In fact, I didn't say anyone did. But I did say pop your head out of your ass, which you still have yet to do.

Lol again why should i even need to pull me head out of my ass? You barely even understood my metaphor earlier

Which metaphor would that be?

Originally posted by Kadesh
So? Humans are vulnerable to radioactivity too, But we have the protection, the suit. Being vulnerable doesnt mean you cant block it.

Oh ok... lol Let me pop my head out of my ass and get back on point.

As organic beings, yes, we have a vulnerability to radiation. Yes, we do have suits that can protect us from it. But I don't recall reading or seeing in the movies any occasion where Vader's suit gives him any protection from Force Lightning. What I do remember seeing in ROTJ is that his suit did not protect him. I don't have my copy of Dark Lord with me because I let one of my students borrow it over the holiday break, but I think I recall reading where Palpatine was dissatisfied that his apprentice would never be able to produce Force Lightning because of his severed limbs.

My thought is that he wouldn't be able to block it, either, since he can't produce it with his hands. I will concede that he could probably block it with a lightsaber, as Obi Wan and Mace Windu used theirs to block lightning in EP's 2 and 3, respectively.

Did i say vaders suit give him a protection to force lighting? Dont feed me with words ok?

i said vaders defence is the god damm f-o-r-c-e, An ability known as force shield.

And i think RODV did mention somewhere that he cant block lightning, but that was at that time because he did not know the force shield ability, yet.

And path of destruction confirms it blocks all forms of force attacks execpt large scale powers

Again, just because he cant produce lightning doesnt mean he cant defend against it

Wait heres the exact quote, sry i got it mixed up

vader;s legs and arms were artificial.And he would never be able to summon lightning or leap like the jedi he had been fond of doing

No where it states there he cant block lightning

lol Dude, I'm not feeding you words. I'm simply saying that I don't think he can block Force Lightning without a lightsaber because he lacks the one essential element to manipulate Force Lightning: hands. You were talking about suits as protection against radiation, so I figured you meant "suit" in this case... my bad.

If Force Lightning works like regular electricity, then an organic being's body continues the circuit that the electricity wants to travel. Without the lightsaber, a la Yoda in EP's 2 and 3, apparently you have to be able to absorb Force Lightning (not block it) to send it back. If Vader were to absorb lightning, it would short circuit his suit, and he would die (as it happened anyway).

By no means am I an expert on Force powers, but I'll gladly concede my whole argument on this one if you can give a source that shows that Vader actually blocked Force Lightning while in that suit. I've never heard of "Force Shield" outside of video games... Not saying it doesn't exist elsewhere; just that I haven't seen it anywhere else. I'm not going to pretend to be the most well-read authority, but I have my doubts.

I'm not going to bash you anymore for being a Vader fan because I think he's the coolest character in the Star Wars universe. But I think that you're constantly making him out to be invulnerable (or close to it), which he's not. In fact, he's extremely vulnerable, and not by accident!

Thanks for getting that quote, though! My bad on the bashing. 😉