Most Overrated Character?

Originally posted by Air Legend
Well Raoul saying quanchi is trolling when he's legitimately trying to argue his points isn't going to keep the peace.

I said I agree with quanchi's interpretation on IM from the scan Raoul provided. Raoul goes on to say that his opinion on the matter is fact, and that trying to counter his interpretation on the IM scenario is trolling.

Hell, I'll even break it down for you.

[B]Superman: I'm capable of shattering a planet. If I pound away at anything long enough it goes down! Even the prime agent of some deranged deity!

What we have here is Superman boasting about his powers. Very comic-like. Okay, now moving on.

IM: Then it would be judicious of us to cut short your assault and encase you with a prison of solidified light. This should hold you long enough for me to deal with him whom I actually came for.

IM counters with this statement. Instead of wasting his time with Superman or even potentially being harmed by him, he pwns him by encasing him with solidified light. Judicious decision indeed!

The second sentence with IM suggests, no, directly shows that IM considers Superman as an obstacle- a nuisance- in his way of reaching his intended target. By saying "Whom I actually came for," IM obviously considers Superman of minor importance. [/B]

Superman isn't over rated. The fact that he can take a majority over Wonder Woman is really just a testiment to his power. She is clearly nearly as durable as he is to blunt force and energy trauma as he is. She is almost as strong and a far better fighter with weapons that happen to be his major weakness, magic. Superman is underrated alot of the times.

Originally posted by Badabing
I'll say it again. Spamming a thread with opinion on matters which you don't have all the facts isn't welcome. Next time it's a warning. You don't see the reports and don't know the big picture. You also aren't in any position to criticize Raoul or his enforcement of the rules. If you must have your opinion heard then take it to a PM. You've been told about your meddling before. Stop now, thanks.

Originally posted by Badabing
I'll say it again. Spamming a thread with opinion on matters which you don't have all the facts isn't welcome. Next time it's a warning. You don't see the reports and don't know the big picture. You also aren't in any position to criticize Raoul or his enforcement of the rules. If you must have your opinion heard then take it to a PM. You've been told about your meddling before. Stop now, thanks.

Superman : I'm capable of shattering a planet ! If I pound away at anything long enough, it goes down ! Even the prime agent of some deranged deity !

*panels illustrate Superman pounding on IM with the aforementioned apparently incapable of responding physically*

IM : Then it would be judicious of us to cut short your assault and encase you within a prison of solidified light.

Yeah, what idiot would agree with Raoul's view, right ? *dur smilie* (gotta learn how to do that 😐)

Originally posted by Air Legend
Now how the hell is that spamming when I'm talking about the IM scan which was brought up in this thread?

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Superman : I'm capable of shattering a planet ! If I pound away at anything long enough, it goes down ! [b]Even the prime agent of some deranged deity !

*panels illustrate Superman pounding on IM with the aforementioned apparently incapable of responding physically*

IM : Then it would be judicious of us to cut short your assault and encase you within a prison of solidified light.

Yeah, what idiot would agree with Raoul's view, right ? *dur smilie* (gotta learn how to do that 😐) [/B]

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Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Superman : I'm capable of shattering a planet ! If I pound away at anything long enough, it goes down ! [b]Even the prime agent of some deranged deity !

*panels illustrate Superman pounding on IM with the aforementioned apparently incapable of responding physically*

IM : Then it would be judicious of us to cut short your assault and encase you within a prison of solidified light.

Yeah, what idiot would agree with Raoul's view, right ? *dur smilie* (gotta learn how to do that 😐) [/B]

I agree. The IM after all did Kill Takion. Was even mighty enough to kill Magnar, Lightray, amped up Granny Goodness, etc. The fact that Superman was beyond his physical match lends credance that Superman has gotten an upgrade. He used to be weaker than IM and this was before IM's upgrade. Now if The IM would have used his vast energy powers, he would have killed Superman, but that wasn't his purpose.

What the hell was that Im scan supposed to prove anyway? It's completely pointless to post something like that, in a thread called "The Most Overrated Character". It Proves jackshit and to think that's some kind of black mark on Superman's behalf, is just downright laughable.

Originally posted by Badabing
I just wanted you to drop the Quan/Raoul thing. biscuits

Originally posted by quanchi112

Sun amp makes him more powerful in every way. The sun amp doesnt change his abilities it amplifies them. 😂

Again until you can actually demonstrate the difference between a normal supes and a sun amped supes in the context of that fight with WW, I suggest you think hard before writing your next post. Freezing Wonder Woman and breaking her wrists are nothing a non-amplified Superman can't do.

Again, sun amping didn't manifest itself in the fight, against a character (in WW) that Superman has defeated in the not-very-distant past without any sun amping involved.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No that is incorrect. Does Solon Grundy have speed equal to Superman's? Does Mantis? Does Kalibak? Does Mongul? Does Hercules?

Kalibak and Mantis have super speed. Superman himself is a noted speedster, who has used his speed in combat against powerful beings . To say it isn't in character is ignoring years of impressive speed displays. As I said, Superman isn't immune to the requirements of the plot, the same applies to the Flash who doesn't just curbstomp everyone he faces with speed. Comics are made for drama and entertainment, not according to character stats (that's what these forums are for).

Originally posted by quanchi112
I mentioed WW holding back because she was. That changes things and she wasnt out for the kill like Superman was and she was taking into consideration that he is her friend and his health. She only wanted to free herself long enough to take out his mind controller not him. 😬

You mentioned WW holding back because you (as always) ignore context. WW in that very same comic said that she couldn't keep up with Superman. A superman who was in truth (comparatively to what he's done to top tiers in the past) wasn't doing much but roaring. Apparently a sun amped supes can't do anymore than break WW's wrist and freeze her. Talk about ignoring the influence of the plot.

Superman without being in a rage or sun amping has made far more devastating and effective use of his powers, yet you actually think that this is a good example of Superman going all out? Do we need to say anymore?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos has met characters with speed before and pwned them easily. Superman is no different. Supes has lost to characters inferior to Thanos before and he isnt even close to his level.

I wasn't arguing Superman vs Thanos. The fact of the matter is Superman is far quicker than Thanos, and the Titan would do well not to engage in a pure brawl with Superman. Hell, it would be absolutely stupid for Thanos to fight superman h2h, given he can teleport, energy manip etc.

And there's plenty of examples of Superman confounding groups of enemies with his speed and even using it to make wind a weapon and creating air vacuum's to suffocate his opponents.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am merely destroying the myth of Superman getting in 1000 or so punches in a second. He couldnt even hit Batman more than once. He is a human and make up all the excuses you want to its all canon friend.

It's hardly a myth when he can propel his body several times the speed of light. Vibrate his body so fast that every particle of his body bypasses energy attacks, vibrate his body so fast he becomes invisible, harness wind as a weapon and create air vacuums without much effort. Hardly a myth my friend.

It's no myth that Superman is a speedster.

Originally posted by Raoul
i'm not talking about your reply to my scans, as i didn't read it.

i'm talking about the constant bias, intentional misinterpretation and flat out trolling that you do while proclaiming your innocence.

there is nothing wrong with disagreements. there are plenty of people on this forum i don't see eye to eye with, and yet get on perfectly well with them...

i am a mod, and just like any other mod, i have to keep the peace on the forum i'm assigned to. you've trolled consistently, and i've heard plenty of complaints about it too.

you don't make my job easier with your posts in general, and that is something i will only tolerate for so long before handing it over to a global.

Originally posted by Allankles
Again until you can actually demonstrate the difference between a normal supes and a sun amped supes in the context of that fight with WW, I suggest you think hard before writing your next post. Freezing Wonder Woman and breaking her wrists are nothing a non-amplified Superman can't do.

Again, sun amping didn't manifest itself in the fight, against a character (in WW) that Superman has defeated in the not-very-distant past without any sun amping involved.

Kalibak and Mantis have super speed. Superman himself is a noted speedster, who has used his speed in combat against powerful beings . To say it isn't in character is ignoring years of impressive speed displays. As I said, Superman isn't immune to the requirements of the plot, the same applies to the Flash who doesn't just curbstomp everyone he faces with speed. Comics are made for drama and entertainment, not according to character stats (that's what these forums are for).

You mentioned WW holding back because you (as always) ignore context. WW in that very same comic said that she couldn't keep up with Superman. A superman who was in truth (comparatively to what he's done to top tiers in the past) wasn't doing much but roaring. Apparently a sun amped supes can't do anymore than break WW's wrist and freeze her. Talk about ignoring the influence of the plot.

Superman without being in a rage or sun amping has made far more devastating and effective use of his powers, yet you actually think that this is a good example of Superman going all out? Do we need to say anymore?

I wasn't arguing Superman vs Thanos. The fact of the matter is Superman is far quicker than Thanos, and the Titan would do well not to engage in a pure brawl with Superman. Hell, it would be absolutely stupid for Thanos to fight superman h2h, given he can teleport, energy manip etc.

And there's plenty of examples of Superman confounding groups of enemies with his speed and even using it to make wind a weapon and creating air vacuum's to suffocate his opponents.

It's hardly a myth when he can propel his body several times the speed of light. Vibrate his body so fast that every particle of his body bypasses energy attacks, vibrate his body so fast he becomes invisible, harness wind as a weapon and create air vacuums without much effort. Hardly a myth my friend.

It's no myth that Superman is a speedster.

Prove Kalibak and Mantis have superspeed. Even if so none of them used it on each other.

Yes I agreed that Superman is above WW and he should beat her. Of course she couldnt keep up he was sunamped and even without the sunamp he is still her better but not by much. I used to think so. WW wanted to get away long enoug to free Superman from his mindjob which she did. Supes amped not dominating her in 3 panels to me makes him not look as dominating over her as I previously would have thought.

Does Solomon Grundy have superspeed? What about the others I named?

Thanos woul dutterly dominate Superman within a few panels much in the same way Cyborg did with the rings. The same way Thanos dominates the Silver Surfer easily by punching and blasting.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I backed up my interpretations which you failed to even read. I am not biased either.

yeah, ok... ermm

Originally posted by quanchi112
I backed up my interpretations which you failed to even read. I am not biased either.

R U SERIOUS? 🤨

Originally posted by fangirl101
R U SERIOUS? 🤨

More like self-delusional.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
More like self-delusional.

You could be correct.

Originally posted by fangirl101
You could be correct.

Originally posted by hunbu04
Where is the Mighty Thor, he should be on that list
I am a fan of Thor but he guys has turn him into an eternity level characher that is why he is the most overated character

thanos,thor and odin i do not think are overated. Their feats speak for themselves. Supes has done some impressive things to but he gets beat by characters far weaker then him at times, and his magic weakness hurts him against magic users.

Originally posted by zeel
thanos,thor and odin i do not think are overated. Their feats speak for themselves. Supes has done some impressive things to but he gets beat by characters far weaker then him at times, and his magic weakness hurts him against magic users.

Thanos is over rated because people never look at the circumstances of most of his greatest feats. I.E. Prep. smacking around maybe two truly herald level characters. Getting power ups. etc.

Thor is over rated because he fights like an idiot when ever faced with a physically superior or equal challenger. Many of his strength feats are not strength only feats as well or they are hyperbole from the silver age.

Odin is over rated because he hasn't done shit galactic in a long time. Asgardians do age and die. Should that mean they also weaken with age?