Originally posted by RaoulYou know I am from ohio and that I am an american. Again I destroyed you scan by scan. Respond to my post as I dont have time to respond to bashing from a moderator. Dont insult my intelligence.
genuine question, so don't take this the wrong way... is english your first language? because i know that when comics are translated, they can lose something in that translation...
Respond to my post and dont take cheapshots at me.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You know I am from ohio and that I am an american. Again I destroyed you scan by scan. Respond to my post as I dont have time to respond to bashing from a moderator. Dont insult my intelligence.Respond to my post and dont take cheapshots at me.
i'm not actually bashing. firstly, living in ohio doesnt make you from ohio, it just means you live there... i didnt know you were originally from ohio...
ask kris, he and i once had a large disagreement over a scan, when it turned out that he had read it in norweigan, in which the language hadn't been translated properly...
you can believe you 'destroyed' me all you like, but what i know is that starlin is very literal in his storytelling, you trying to expand upon something that doesnt need to be expanded upon just because you feel some insane need to try and make superman look bad is pretty sad...
next time, THINK before shooting your mouth off and making baseless accusations...
and, fyi, if english is indeed your first language, your post is just another example of the massive amount of trolling that you do...
Originally posted by Raoulyou can play this off all you want. But like I said to you when you accused me of baiting. You know I am not from another country and you know this. You can come up with all the reasoning in the universe to explain that you thought differently but I wont buy it.
i'm not actually bashing. firstly, living in ohio doesnt make you from ohio, it just means you live there... i didnt know you were originally from ohio...ask kris, he and i once had a large disagreement over a scan, when it turned out that he had read it in the original norweigan, in which the language hadn't been translated properly...
you can believe you 'destroyed' me all you like, but what i know, is that starlin is very literaly in his storytelling, you trying to expand upon something that doesnt need to be expanded upon just because you feel some insane need to try and make superman look bad is pretty sad...
next time, THINK before shooting your mouth off and making baseless accusations...
Again I think its pretty sad when you try to make him into something he isnt. I went over your scans and posted key wording on those scans you left out. You missed huge points left and right imo.
Now you wont even respond to it as I have responded to you imo twisting it. You say I twisted it I say you did.
Its no secret I am not popular here and its fine by me. So all the high fives and the jokes like I think his prostate is going to explode are fine by me.
I owned you imo. I took nothing out of context, nothing. Someone claimed Superman defeated Kalibak and Mantis. You didnt say a thing about that person blatantly posting mistruths. You came in to defend Superman which he is only a comic book character when he posted the mistruth and I have a right to my own opinion.
Again I never said Kalibak coul dbeat him all the time I said a Kalibak punch could knock him senseless. It was lucky yes and he had help but I never said Kalibak on his own could beat him. Kalibak and Mantis fought a very sloppy fight as stated in the comic and still had him dead to rights. Superman couldnt get up until Orion showed up and saved him.
Now you wont even respond to my response. I find that sad.
Huh trolling? I broke the scans down and actually commented on what was said exactly right from the book. I debate. I dont make things up and admit when I am wrong. I responded to you in full scan by scan. Now you can respond if you want to my original post. But I feel you only highligthed certain parts and neglected totally other parts to make Superman look better.
Originally posted by Raoul
and, fyi, if english is indeed your first language, your post is just another example of the massive amount of trolling that you do...
And all you did was tell llagrok "kris, how many times have i told you about your language?" when you gave me a warning for saying some posts were terribly misleading.
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Originally posted by quanchi112
you can play this off all you want. But like I said to you when you accused me of baiting. You know I am not from another country and you know this. You can come up with all the reasoning in the universe to explain that you thought differently but I wont buy it.
then don't, see if i care, i gave you an explanation, you don't like it? TOUGH.
Again I think its pretty sad when you try to make him into something he isnt. I went over your scans and posted key wording on those scans you left out. You missed huge points left and right imo.
i didn't leave out anything, because starlin filled in the rest...
Now you wont even respond to it as I have responded to you imo twisting it. You say I twisted it I say you did.
i won't respond because i've responded to enough of your crap already...
Its no secret I am not popular here and its fine by me. So all the high fives and the jokes like I think his prostate is going to explode are fine by me.
and?
I owned you imo. I took nothing out of context, nothing. Someone claimed Superman defeated Kalibak and Mantis. You didnt say a thing about that person blatantly posting mistruths. You came in to defend Superman which he is only a comic book character when he posted the mistruth and I have a right to my own opinion.
except, you know, that superman stopped them from getting to scott free, so he accomplished what he set out to do... twist it if you like, starlin disagrees, and he wrote it...
Again I never said Kalibak coul dbeat him all the time I said a Kalibak punch could knock him senseless. It was lucky yes and he had help but I never said Kalibak on his own could beat him. Kalibak and Mantis fought a very sloppy fight as stated in the comic and still had him dead to rights. Superman couldnt get up until Orion showed up and saved him.
😆 LIES.
Now you wont even respond to my response. I find that sad.
what i find sad is trying to put down a character that much that often...
Huh trolling? I broke the scans down and actually commented on what was said exactly right from the book. I debate. I dont make things up and admit when I am wrong. I responded to you in full scan by scan. Now you can respond if you want to my original post. But I feel you only highligthed certain parts and neglected totally other parts to make Superman look better.
you contradict scans and constantly take them out of context just to suit your arguments... that's trolling.
i don't have to make Superman look good, DC does it for me...
Originally posted by Air Legend
Well shit, if you, a moderator, gets to baselessly accuse someone of trolling, what does that tell the forum?
its not baseless.
And all you did was tell llagrok "kris, how many times have i told you about your language?" when you gave me a warning for saying some posts were terribly misleading.👇
you cause more trouble than he does.
Originally posted by quanchi112I read your reply and honestly don't see how you arrived at your conclusion. It seems you take out the context which is apparent to most people and spin it to what you "think" should happen. Anybody who's half knowledgeable about the writers can see this. But I guess in your "expert" analysis you have the ability to go against said writers and their dialogue. This seems to be your modus operandi when posting in the VS Forum. It also explains why there's so much friction in most every thread you post. It's not difficult to distort showings and scans to try proving a point but I've seen you get called on numerous times. Raoul surgically dissected you.
Read my response to his when I break it down step by step. He left all kinds of key points out imo.
Originally posted by Air LegendMods are here to keep the peace and weed out any trouble makers. You have your own problems on KMC and shouldn't compound them by talking about something which doesn't involve you and which you don't have anywhere near all the facts.
Well shit, if you, a moderator, gets to baselessly accuse someone of trolling, what does that tell the forum?And all you did was tell llagrok "kris, how many times have i told you about your language?" when you gave me a warning for saying some posts were terribly misleading.
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Originally posted by RaoulI am just telling you my opinion is all. Again its just comics.
then don't, see if i care, i gave you an explanation, you don't like it? TOUGH.i didn't leave out anything, because starlin filled in the rest...
i won't respond because i've responded to enough of your crap already...
and?
except, you know, that superman stopped them from getting to scott free, so he accomplished what he set out to do... twist it if you like, starlin disagrees, and he wrote it...
😆 LIES.
what i find sad is trying to put down a character that much that often...
you contradict scans and constantly take them out of context just to suit your arguments... that's trolling.
i don't have to make Superman look good, DC does it for me...
its not baseless.
you cause more trouble than he does.
You left out a lot especially when it came to Superman underestimating his opponent. You also left out the Im telling Superman he is much more powerful than him and the fact he wasnt there for him at all hence the reason he was imprisoned as opposed to killed like Orion was. Orion looked superior in this series as well.
Here you go getting personal and calling my posts crap when i tore into yours. I dont insult you by calling your posts crap. Wow.
Dc does superman into quite a formidable character but not the all powerful cant lose badass some fans make him into. At the end of the day he isnt the baddest top tier out there in dc. He is up there though I have always admitted that much.
i could say the same of you. You twisted the scans into Kalibak having an amp on panel while the scans clearly illustrate Superman underestimated Kalibak. Kaliabk got a lucky punch in but it was enough to down Superman temporarily until Orion saved him. Kalibak also fought anything but aperfect fight which was also described on the scans.
Again I have a right to my own opinion and responded to you with what I read from the scans.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I am just telling you my opinion is all. Again its just comics.You left out a lot especially when it came to Superman underestimating his opponent. You also left out the Im telling Superman he is much more powerful than him and the fact he wasnt there for him at all hence the reason he was imprisoned as opposed to killed like Orion was. Orion looked superior in this series as well.
Here you go getting personal and calling my posts crap when i tore into yours. I dont insult you by calling your posts crap. Wow.
Dc does superman into quite a formidable character but not the all powerful cant lose badass some fans make him into. At the end of the day he isnt the baddest top tier out there in dc. He is up there though I have always admitted that much.
i could say the same of you. You twisted the scans into Kalibak having an amp on panel while the scans clearly illustrate Superman underestimated Kalibak. Kaliabk got a lucky punch in but it was enough to down Superman temporarily until Orion saved him. Kalibak also fought anything but aperfect fight which was also described on the scans.
Again I have a right to my own opinion and responded to you with what I read from the scans.
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Originally posted by BadabingAgain its all opinion based and saying raols opinion is factual while mine is crap is completely all subjective. You ropinion isnt factual either. I gave my interpretation while he gave his. Lets say we disagree.
I read your reply and honestly don't see how you arrived at your conclusion. It seems you take out the context which is apparent to most people and spin it to what you "think" should happen. Anybody who's half knowledgeable about the writers can see this. But I guess in your "expert" analysis you have the ability to go against said writers and their dialogue. This seems to be your modus operandi when posting in the VS Forum. It also explains why there's so much friction in most every thread you post. It's not difficult to distort showings and scans to try proving a point but I've seen you get called on numerous times. Raoul surgically dissected you. Mods are here to keep the peace and weed out any trouble makers. You have your own problems on KMC and shouldn't compound them by talking about something which doesn't involve you and which you don't have anywhere near all the facts.
I responded in full to everything he said. I disagree entirely and in the end its comics.
Originally posted by RaoulYou havent responded to my posts at all with nothing more than a dur and that isnt trolling. I broke it down scan by scan and responded in full.
i just don't know what you expect me to say...also, saying 'its only comics' isnt an excuse for trolling...
All I meant was I disagree with you but this isnt worth getting upset over as its comics meaning its all subjective anyways.
Originally posted by quanchi112You do have a right to your opinion and nobody is disputing that fact. There comes a times where you have to respect the opinion of others also. Maybe it's how you word your replies and maybe you honestly believe you're correct 100% of the time. Sometimes you do appear to come off as smug with your replies, like "How could I possibly be wrong?". I agree about them being "just comics". But this forum has more anger than the Religion and Politics forums. 😂
Again its all opinion based and saying raols opinion is factual while mine is crap is completely all subjective. You ropinion isnt factual either. I gave my interpretation while he gave his. Lets say we disagree.I responded in full to everything he said. I disagree entirely and in the end its comics.
Anyway, let's just enjoy the threads before I try out the new "Mass Banning" feature. durelly
Originally posted by BadabingThis is fair.
You do have a right to your opinion and nobody is disputing that fact. There comes a times where you have to respect the opinion of others also. Maybe it's how you word your replies and maybe you honestly believe you're correct 100% of the time. Sometimes you do appear to come off as smug with your replies, like "How could I possibly be wrong?". I agree about them being "just comics". But this forum has more anger than the Religion and Politics forums. 😂Anyway, let's just enjoy the threads before I try out the new "Mass Banning" feature. durelly
On a lighter note.
Could you imagine me if I started wieghing in on religion and politics here.
I would be dead within a week. (maybe relly) 🙁
Originally posted by quanchi112
You havent responded to my posts at all with nothing more than a dur and that isnt trolling. I broke it down scan by scan and responded in full.All I meant was I disagree with you but this isnt worth getting upset over as its comics meaning its all subjective anyways.
i'm not talking about your reply to my scans, as i didn't read it.
i'm talking about the constant bias, intentional misinterpretation and flat out trolling that you do while proclaiming your innocence.
there is nothing wrong with disagreements. there are plenty of people on this forum i don't see eye to eye with, and yet get on perfectly well with them...
i am a mod, and just like any other mod, i have to keep the peace on the forum i'm assigned to. you've trolled consistently, and i've heard plenty of complaints about it too.
you don't make my job easier with your posts in general, and that is something i will only tolerate for so long before handing it over to a global.
Originally posted by Raoul
i'm not talking about your reply to my scans, as i didn't read it.i'm talking about the constant bias, intentional misinterpretation and flat out trolling that you do while proclaiming your innocence.
there is nothing wrong with disagreements. there are plenty of people on this forum i don't see eye to eye with, and yet get on perfectly well with them...
i am a mod, and just like any other mod, i have to keep the peace on the forum i'm assigned to. you've trolled consistently, and i've heard plenty of complaints about it too.
you don't make my job easier with your posts in general, and that is something i will only tolerate for so long before handing it over to a global.
Spoiler:
You have the ability to ban members.
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Originally posted by Badabing
Mods are here to keep the peace and weed out any trouble makers.You have your own problems on KMC and shouldn't compound them by talking about something which doesn't involve you and which you don't have anywhere near all the facts.
I said I agree with quanchi's interpretation on IM from the scan Raoul provided. Raoul goes on to say that his opinion on the matter is fact, and that trying to counter his interpretation on the IM scenario is trolling.
Hell, I'll even break it down for you.
Superman: I'm capable of shattering a planet. If I pound away at anything long enough it goes down! Even the prime agent of some deranged deity!
What we have here is Superman boasting about his powers. Very comic-like. Okay, now moving on.
IM: Then it would be judicious of us to cut short your assault and encase you with a prison of solidified light. This should hold you long enough for me to deal with him whom I actually came for.
IM counters with this statement. Instead of wasting his time with Superman or even potentially being harmed by him, he pwns him by encasing him with solidified light. Judicious decision indeed!
The second sentence with IM suggests, no, directly shows that IM considers Superman as an obstacle- a nuisance- in his way of reaching his intended target. By saying "Whom I actually came for," IM obviously considers Superman of minor importance.