Revenge of the sith v Empire strikes back

Started by Rampant ox5 pages

I think the simple fact that he is in both trilogies makes him great. Due to his age its not like he can just pick and choose any role he wants.

touche. You know i like busting your balls about your love for C.Lee, but honestly, do you feel that him, by himself, made the PT even be able to contend with the OT? Seriously.

No. But he could have if GL had given Dooku a bigger or more significant part. What we saw of him in ROTS was nothing short of embarrasing - an insult to Mr Lee.

While he is a good actor, i dont think he would have made the PT eclipse the OT...to many other low points.

ROTS sucks ass, how did everybody even know who darth vader really is when he only appears at the last part?

In the OT its like everybody knows who darth vader is, and if he only appears in the suit at the last part of ROTS, how is everybody suppose to even know him? Thats why we have the EU

Luke is more famouse then anakin coz anakin is a cry baby lolz . Anakin easly fell to the dark side . In ROTJ the empror tryed very hard to turn luke to the dark side but the force was strong with the kid .

Yup, anakin crys about his wife going to die yet he is the one who does the deed,

Sith sucks, Empire rules

Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
Sith sucks, Empire rules
Though the Empire was founded and run by the Sith.

Originally posted by coolmovies
Luke is more famouse then anakin coz anakin is a cry baby lolz . Anakin easly fell to the dark side . In ROTJ the empror tryed very hard to turn luke to the dark side but the force was strong with the kid .

What? Luke I found was extremely winy and annoying! Even more so than Anakin. And the Emperor didn't seem to try very hard, he said a couple of lines and he finally struck at him. It took Sidious a lot longer to turn Anakin, he knew Anakin almost all his life and took him until the very end to finally turn him.

I do like Empire Strikes Back better, it's just really good, hard to explain it. Vader kicks ass.

Empire Strikes Back is a classic. The fight scenes were pretty good and I find it comparable to the PT in interest wise. The big surprise in the end between Vader and Luke when you first see it, it's pretty amazing. There was also good solid acting by all the characters. Storyline was nice.

Revenge of the Sith is no doubt the 2nd best. Awesome fighting scenes and battles. The graphics are just superb! Good acting by certain individuals, like McDiarmid and Lee. However, Anakin's turning just sucked. He was a faithful Jedi in one second, and ten minutes later, he's killing Younglings. Natalie Portman's lines were pretty cheesy as well "You're breaking my heart".

ESB > ROTS

Coolmovies, you say that ROTS was so much better, but you didn't even know what Order 66 was, or if 66 was even the number, lol! I'm glad it was such a great movie that the pivotal point stuck in your mind. 馃槅

Wow. Can't believe this is even a thread...no contest.

It's hilarious how people actually got sucked into thinking that Episode III was a good film when it came out. OHHH...because it has drama, character development and a lot of plot-driven dialogue...Oooooo.

What a sore indication of how easily moviegoers today are fooled by something that looks like it has substance, sounds like it has substance, but in the end is just a steaming pile of crap. Shows how starving people are these days for so-called "good" or "well-rounded" films. Well, there are some of those out there, but boy...this ain't one...so the real problem is that what we're left with is nothing that's really good "Star Wars".

ROTS is what happens when Lucas strays away from the only thing he's good at anymore (spectacle), and is actually trying to make a film with substance (something he's failed at a number of times in and out of the series since A New Hope). Just because a film has elements of drama, character development and a lot of dialogue, doesn't mean that those elements are good...OH, but when it comes to Star Wars it's a success, right?

The other prequels were cool because they knew their place. There was a lot of crap in there, but at least the spectacle took centre stage.

There was NOTHING that stood out in ROTS...and instead the effort went into trying to make it freakn' LOTR...and it's sooo not. That's what makes it extra bad and annoying.

The series was primed to go out with a bang and blow people's minds...the same way Star Wars blew people's minds when it all started...but instead Episode III was a horribly transparent failed exercise in peer redemption of a washed-up filmaker.

...Empire by an Anchorhead mile.

I definitely prefer ESB over ROTS. The characters felt more natural and the audience could relate to them or feel sympathy for them or fear them. Who cares about the special effects sucking; the Vader vs. Luke duel is pretty damned awesome regardless.

I dunno, I just prefer ESB over ROTS.

i agree rex, and vader is plain badass. Infact i prefer the TESB dueling, its more releastic and more classical

i loved the line "You have failed me for the last time"

The PT characters are prettier.

EPIIIBITES, while i respect your opinion, and can see where you're coming from, Ep3 wasn't that bad. I liked the fact that he tried to do story telling rater than just hit us with non stop SPFX (although he did do alot in it), and i found it much closer to the OT than TPM or AOTC. Those had the spectacle, as you put it, but no substance. If you have all visuals, but no meat to the story, then it's not a good movie, whereas ROTS tried to bring modern day technology and the OT's sense of storytelling together. ESB is still a better film, but Sith was by far the best prequel.

And yes Planet, the PT had "prettier" characters, but that was honestly a diversionary tactic to yet again try to distract us of the fact that the PT will never be as great as the OT. Now, that being said, had he put padme in leia's gold bikini...wow...I'd shut my mouth in a second, lol! but unfortunately, Natalie's not slutty like that. 馃檨

Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
Wow. Can't believe this is even a thread...no contest.

It's hilarious how people actually got sucked into thinking that Episode III was a good film when it came out. OHHH...because it has drama, character development and a lot of plot-driven dialogue...Oooooo.

What a sore indication of how easily moviegoers today are fooled by something that looks like it has substance, sounds like it has substance, but in the end is just a steaming pile of crap. Shows how starving people are these days for so-called "good" or "well-rounded" films. Well, there are some of those out there, but boy...this ain't one...so the real problem is that what we're left with is nothing that's really good "Star Wars".

ROTS is what happens when Lucas strays away from the only thing he's good at anymore (spectacle), and is actually trying to make a film with substance (something he's failed at a number of times in and out of the series since A New Hope). Just because a film has elements of drama, character development and a lot of dialogue, doesn't mean that those elements are good...OH, but when it comes to Star Wars it's a success, right?

The other prequels were cool because they knew their place. There was a lot of crap in there, but at least the spectacle took centre stage.

There was NOTHING that stood out in ROTS...and instead the effort went into trying to make it freakn' LOTR...and it's sooo not. That's what makes it extra bad and annoying.

The series was primed to go out with a bang and blow people's minds...the same way Star Wars blew people's minds when it all started...but instead Episode III was a horribly transparent failed exercise in peer redemption of a washed-up filmaker.

...Empire by an Anchorhead mile.

You really are a whiny b!tch, all you do in the PT forum is complain. Your obviously biased, and your opinion means jack sh*t really.

The thing is Samuel L jackson and Mr Lee are too famouse to be in a star wars movie . The last half hour of ROTS is good only becouse you get a fantastic duel plus the birth of vader. The rest of the movie has Jaja binks in it .

ESB is icionic in everyway i love the dark sets the famouse lines. Its the best sw movie out of all six . Hell its better then the 1977 classic star wars later changed to a new hope .

Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
Wow. Can't believe this is even a thread...no contest.

It's hilarious how people actually got sucked into thinking that Episode III was a good film when it came out. OHHH...because it has drama, character development and a lot of plot-driven dialogue...Oooooo.

What a sore indication of how easily moviegoers today are fooled by something that looks like it has substance, sounds like it has substance, but in the end is just a steaming pile of crap. Shows how starving people are these days for so-called "good" or "well-rounded" films. Well, there are some of those out there, but boy...this ain't one...so the real problem is that what we're left with is nothing that's really good "Star Wars".

ROTS is what happens when Lucas strays away from the only thing he's good at anymore (spectacle), and is actually trying to make a film with substance (something he's failed at a number of times in and out of the series since A New Hope). Just because a film has elements of drama, character development and a lot of dialogue, doesn't mean that those elements are good...OH, but when it comes to Star Wars it's a success, right?

The other prequels were cool because they knew their place. There was a lot of crap in there, but at least the spectacle took centre stage.

There was NOTHING that stood out in ROTS...and instead the effort went into trying to make it freakn' LOTR...and it's sooo not. That's what makes it extra bad and annoying.

The series was primed to go out with a bang and blow people's minds...the same way Star Wars blew people's minds when it all started...but instead Episode III was a horribly transparent failed exercise in peer redemption of a washed-up filmaker.

...Empire by an Anchorhead mile.

I think I platonically love you.