Revenge of the sith v Empire strikes back

Started by EPIIIBITES5 pages

Hee hee...What is this weird point you keep pushing? Every second post is about people not knowing "Vader". wt...?

You mean, how Sidious just said "you will be known as Darth...Vader"?

...or how Yoda said "consumed by Darth Vader"?

Who knows...never bothered me though. Yoda probably just figured it out through the force.

Or maybe how this whole Darth/Sith thing works is that the spirits or beings of these various "Darths" have just been kinda floating around for eons until people give into the dark side enough and become embodied by them...like demons or something. So, Darth Sidious himself was actually just some normal dude that at one point got consumed by the Sith spirit "Sidious".

Who cares if it's not explained...it's kinda cool not knowing. Doesn't have any effect on the movie/storyline.

...honestly, I personally don't know and don't care much of what's outside the movies... kinda make a point of it.

Originally posted by Kadesh
ROTS sucked in a way, no explanation of how vader became so famous and known by nearly every body in the galaxy, especially since lucas disregards the EU
I think this has been countered before: What do you think he was doing, sucking a bottle from mommy Palpatine? No. ANH explains how he's famous and known, because he's the exterminator of the Jedi. No need for any stupid "OMGUEZ, VAYDAH KEELD JEDAI, *FANBOY/GIRL SQUEAL!!* ;iehgeilohltoiuh" >_> Seriously.

poll is closed??
i could have tipped it
this is like ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOOS NEST
i vote ESB
who are these fools who voted SITH??

Originally posted by vintageSW77
poll is closed??
i could have tipped it
this is like ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOOS NEST
i vote ESB
who are these fools who voted SITH??
You saw "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest"?

yeah more times than the PT put together

Originally posted by vintageSW77
yeah more times than the PT put together
I only managed to see it once, part way in.

Originally posted by Lord Saboteur
I think this has been countered before: What do you think he was doing, sucking a bottle from mommy Palpatine? No. ANH explains how he's famous and known, because he's the exterminator of the Jedi. No need for any stupid "OMGUEZ, VAYDAH KEELD JEDAI, *FANBOY/GIRL SQUEAL!!* ;iehgeilohltoiuh" >_> Seriously.

Ummmm. ANH is after Sith...I don't think you've quite gotten what he's gettin' at.

Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
Ummmm. ANH is after Sith...I don't think you've quite gotten what he's gettin' at.
But do you get what I'm getting at?

Why is this poll still open.

It's not.

Originally posted by Lord Saboteur
But do you get what I'm getting at?

Yes. All you're saying is that the audience knows...he's wondering about how everyone knows (even the characters).

it should be re opened
i vote ESB
it cant be a tie
its preposterous
Sith is a muddled mess.just a bunch of scenes which dont fit whilst ESB is seamless
its the perfect movie
it says it all when one of the most memorable bits of an "event" movie is a scene with no dialogue and someone staring out of a window with a bit of haunting background music
if you rate SITH above EMPIRE you should be questioning your appreciation of if not STAR WARS but movies in general

"im weak.....im weak......dont kill me"
GIVE ME A BREAK!

Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
Yes. All you're saying is that the audience knows...he's wondering about how everyone knows (even the characters).
Well, if a hermit whose been very far off from the civilized world can find out that Vader destroyed the Order, then I'm not doubting that the people would know. Somehow, and the fact that quite a few are anti-Jedi in sentiment would probably mean that they'd keep track and spread word.

Uuuugh! In ROTS! How did they know in ROTS! That's what I'm saying he's asking! Why do you keep talking about ANH??!! Obviously people knew about Vader 30 years later...

...maybe this dude doesn't realize that...which would mean he's asking a weirder question than I thought.

I put ESB and ANH above ROTS, personally...

Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
Uuuugh! In ROTS! How did they know in ROTS! That's what I'm saying he's asking! Why do you keep talking about ANH??!! Obviously people knew about Vader 30 years later...
Nobody except for the 501st, Obi-Wan, Sidious and Yoda knew about Vader pre-suit. And it's 20 years later, not 30. And for suited Vader, it was probably the same til he was at least shown in any type of newscast.

...maybe this dude doesn't realize that...which would mean he's asking a weirder question than I thought.
I'm gonna go with the weirder question.

Yea but who knew that the black suited guy is actually vader 19 years later, the whole galaxy knew that and obviously ROTS never explains how every body knows him, So of course lucas works with james luceno for RODV and i think RODV is not disregarded by GL

Obi-Wan explains why everyone knows him. 馃槓

Would you have rathered that GL had made the movie 30 minutes longer so we can see him defeating insignificant Jedi survivors and making speeches in the Senate - purely so it solves the non-existing problem of him being known in the OT?

Originally posted by Rampant ox
Obi-Wan explains why everyone knows him. 馃槓

where did he say that? and give me the quote

A young Jedi named Darth Vader, who was a pupil of mine until he
turned to evil, helped the Empire hunt down and destroy the Jedi
Knights. He betrayed and murdered your father. Now the Jedi are all
but extinct. Vader was seduced by the dark side of the Force
- Obi-Wan Kenobi

He outright states that Vader hunted down and destroyed the Jedi. We also know that the Jedi were at their prime when this happened and were known throughout the galaxy for their strength and abilities. If this doesnt instill fear into people and make one known then I dont know what does.