Revenge of the sith v Empire strikes back

Originally posted by Blaxican
You really are a whiny b!tch, all you do in the PT forum is complain. Your obviously biased, and your opinion means jack sh*t really.

Be nice. Not sure what posts you've been readin', but I've always expressed my love for everything Star Wars...including the PT movies (despite their severe shortcomings)...and I've gone on record many a time saying how I think AOTC is a work of art and my second favorite in the series (although I think it's easily the second worst)...maybe you don't know how to seperate the two.

It's not bitching...it's just critique.

by far im going with.... ESB ....good grapics for the 70's was it?

u should of made it ROTS vs. ROTJ

ROTJ > ROTS

not many OT fans like ROTJ

I like it. I like it least of the OT and more than any of the PT, but I still like it alot.

ROTJ would have been the best of all the movies if there was no ewoks. Now it is only the second best - after ESB.
It is so cool, the fight between Vader, Luke and Sidious

infact the whole OT > the PT by a mega margin, i only liked episode 1 and 2 from the PT,

Originally posted by Blaxican
You really are a whiny b!tch, all you do in the PT forum is complain. Your obviously biased, and your opinion means jack sh*t really.

At least he can argue his point. You're semi-biased yourself, if you think about it. In the case of OT vs. PT, everyone is. 😛

to me, the OT are all equal, but for different reasons;

ANH - The way we're introduced to the cast, and the way "Ben" speaks of Anakin, and the "Dark times".

ESB - Bad guys win, best plot twist, most emotional duel(of the OT), and the way Yoda describes the force, the TRUE meaning of the force..no gay ass midichlorian crap.

ROTJ - Luke coming into his own, more Palpatine, Vader's char. deepens, musical score for final duel.

now negatives;

ANH - kinda slow, bad fight scene, Luke.

ESB - lacked the story content of ANH..bout it, lol

ROTJ - Jabba's palace scenes, ewoks role (but not them themselves), again storytelling takes a backseat to newer SPFX, and the failure at a sequeled amazing plot twist - Luke and Leia being siblings, by no means equal to Vader being daddy.

for me, overall, I'd say

ESB
ROTS
ROTJ
ANH
AOTC
TPM

But thats just me. 😬

me:
ROTS
TPM
ROTJ
ESB
AOTC
ANH

The classics still rule the PT even if they are 30 years old

Top 6

ESB
ROTJ
ANH
AOTC
ROTS
TPM

ROTS would have been better if is was not for:
*A scandal fight with Anakin against Kenobi (at that time Anakin was way better and would have beaten up Kenobi in few minutes - the fight should have been before Anakin became so powerful or there should have been another plot explaining why Anakin did loose).

*Sidious seems weak against Windu - Strange? - I do not buy the story that it was a set up from Sidious - turning Anakin to the dark side (he could have been killed if Anakin came just a few seconds later).
Why is it that all Yoda's fights are equal in ep. 2 and 3?

*I didn't think the scene where Anakin turned to the dark side was good - Sidious seems weak at that time (he should have been very powerful to turn Anakin) - and it happened to easy.

*The scenes with Anakin and Padmé were weak - they were much better in ep. 2

*I didn't like Grievous

Though ROTS was still a very good movie with a lot of qualities.

Just my opinion.

There was...while Anakin was the more powerful of the two, he couldn't think clearly and instead of controlling his emotions, his emotions controlled him, and thusly left him without a leg to stand on...literally.

Sidious did look weaker against Mace, but not really til Anakin was almost there, as he did force Mace into a defensive position a few times. And according to the commentary, GL states that they changed the movie to where Anakin had to see all that to convert, as the first version, he was already a SIth and had to help Sidious kill Mace. So yea, that could go either way. I don't think Yoda's fights were equal per se, i just think he tried harder against a more deadly opponent, and it appeared the same...i guess that could be a lame excuse, but it's how i saw it.

I also have always said his turn to the darkside was too fast and easy...he could have force pushed Sids right out the damn window. But then, like GL said, he'd done too much to go back and be accepted by the Jedi, they'd either arrest him or kill him...so why go back, and if you think its the only way to save your wife...eh, ya know...

Yea, Anakin/Padem scenes were whack, except the first one...to me.

I wasn't much of a GG fan either.

In any case, ESB beats it.

ESB pwns ROTS, how did the galaxy even knew about vader? Of course the EU explains that but it was suppose to be shown in the movie

The Empire Strikes Back has always been my favorite from the original series.

Actually rampant, the reason why dooku lost to anakin in EP3 wascuz dooku was high on martini, he was drunk

Empire.

Easily.

Though ROTS is good, my second fave actually and it does not suck. Nor does the PT.

🙂

Two great films nonetheless.

Antaeus gets kudos for having no PT films in his top 3...

Though, ROTS is in my top three. Above ROTJ, TPM, and AOTC. ESB and ANH are on top. w00t

And does the Kenobi-Vader duel just completely overshadow all of the running around on the Death Star, shooting down stormtroopers, then the showdown with the TIE fighters, then the Battle of Yavin and the destruction of the Death Star?

I think not.

I just saw ESB last night and wow turns rots into a mouse . Its brillent i love it .

Million times better then rots

ROTS sucked in a way, no explanation of how vader became so famous and known by nearly every body in the galaxy, especially since lucas disregards the EU