The difference(s) b/t SATAN & LUCIFER

Ok, I read from so many sources, it's almost a bi-polar experience, as some sources hate each other, and others are neutral.

Anyway, I can't claim this for myself, someone else thought of the differences between Satan and Lucifer.

He states the following:

"If we contrast these too we can see that Lucifer, according to world dictionaries is truly a heavenly entity, he is defined to be a light Being. Light, emanates from the mental universe, possible around the 10th dimension right below the spiritual universe that begins in the 11th dimension and up. The spiritual universe is where light is created and the creators of all things reside. The word, Lucifer is used in the King James Version only once, in Isaiah 14:12 and Lucifer is not depicted as Satan within that verse.

Within the hu-man body alone there are 7 dimensions or bodies (physical, astral, lower mind, superior mind, spirit, soul and essence). Though most humans can only access a few of these dimensions within them at given times, it is another thing to exist entirely (100 percent) in the 8th ,9th and 10th dimensions of the mental universe this is the place accessed only by well development masters, Ultraterrestial and Supreme Beings.

Satan on the other had is obviously from his definition a supernatural being, a reptilian leviathan. Reptilians are Orionians, originating from planet(s) in the Orion galaxy. These beings would be considered Extraterrestrials to us on earth. Extraterrestrials are of a lower dimension than Ultraterrestials and hold lower ranks in the Cosmic/Galactic Council. "

Now, I can't agree with everything he stated, but wanted to know what you all think of the differences between the two.'

I noticed that in Kundalini yoga, they would chant the mantra "SA TA NA MA"...and I read online that others have wondered the connection between SA TA N-A, and satan.

Sorry for posting so much:

Here is a Christian explanation of "Satan" and what it means in Hebrew and what it means in Latin:

Indeed, Jesus Christ is the Bright & Morning Star.

I understand that the name "Lucifer" was added into the Bible and not in the original Hebrews.

Lucifer makes his appearance in the fourteenth chapter of the Old Testament book of Isaiah, at the twelfth verse, and nowhere else: "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!"

The first problem is that Lucifer is a Latin name. So how did it find its way into a Hebrew manuscript, written before there was a Roman language?

A scholar at the library of the Hebrew Union College in Cincinnati answered the question about Lucifer and the origin of this name. What Hebrew name was Satan given in this chapter of Isaiah, which describes the angel who fell to become the ruler of hell?

The scholar replies, "In the original Hebrew text, the fourteenth chapter of Isaiah is not about a fallen angel, but about a fallen Babylonian king, who during his lifetime had persecuted the children of Israel. It contains no mention of Satan, either by name or reference. The Hebrew scholar could only speculate that some early Christian scribes, writing in the Latin tongue used by the Church, had decided for themselves that they wanted the story to be about a fallen angel, a creature not even mentioned in the original Hebrew text, and to whom they gave the name 'Lucifer'."

Why Lucifer? In Roman astronomy, Lucifer was the name given to the morning star (the star we now know by another Roman name, Venus). The morning star appears in the heavens just before dawn, heralding the rising sun. The name derives from the Latin term lucem ferre, bringer, or bearer, of light." In the Hebrew text the expression used to describe the Babylonian king before his death is Helal, son of Shahar, which can best be translated as "Day star, son of the Dawn." The name evokes the golden glitter of a proud king's dress and court (much as his personal splendor earned for King Louis XIV of France the appellation, "The Sun King"😉.

The scholars authorized by ... King James I to translate the Bible into current English did not use the original Hebrew texts, but used versions translated ... largely by St. Jerome in the fourth century. Jerome had mistranslated the Hebraic metaphor, "Day star, son of the Dawn," as "Lucifer," and over the centuries a metamorphosis took place. Lucifer the morning star became a disobedient angel, cast out of heaven to rule eternally in hell. Theologians, writers, and poets interwove the myth with the doctrine of the Fall, and in Christian tradition Lucifer is now the same as Satan, the Devil, and --- ironically --- the Prince of Darkness.

So "Lucifer" is nothing more than an ancient Latin name for the morning star, the bringer of light. That can be confusing for Christians who identify Christ himself as the morning star, a term used as a central theme in many Christian sermons. Jesus refers to himself as the morning star in Revelation 22:16: "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star."

...okay?

I understand that one early view (and posibly the view of the RC church?) is that Lucifer is in some sense a position, and that it is improper to refer to the Devil as Lucifer, because he is no longer in that position, having fallen from it.

Originally posted by Gregory
...okay?

I understand that one early view (and posibly the view of the RC church?) is that Lucifer is in some sense a position, and that it is improper to refer to the Devil as Lucifer, because he is no longer in that position, having fallen from it.

Wow, I didn't even mention the devil. The devil is "the opposer of good", that doesn't have to be a fallen angel, it can be the act of opposition to good, and that character is being devilish. Sure, lucifer is a fallen star, and his act made him devilish, but there are more entities going on then what is stated.

Devil = an act of opposing good

Lucifer = fallen star

Satan = repitlian species that tries to hide inside different forms ?? of humans and animals??

Originally posted by Oncewhite
Devil = an act of opposing good

Lucifer = fallen star

Satan = repitlian species that tries to hide inside different forms ?? of humans and animals??

Satan=the devil
Lucifer= Greek word for Satan (Lucifer was the Greek god of enlightment if I remember)
Lucifer is not a word actually used in the Bible's original Hebrew manuscript.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Umm, no.

Satan=the devil
Lucifer= Greek word for Satan (Lucifer was the Greek god of enlightment if I remember)
Lucifer is not a word actually used in the Bible's original Hebrew manuscript.

Nope, according to wikipedia, the "devil" is a title, so anyone can be one, including the entities that are trapped in the 4th deminsions (Satan, demons or coherts)...and then there is Lucifer which pretends to be the morning star but is really a fallen angel.

"The Devil is a title given to a supernatural entity, who, in most interpretations of the Abrahamic faiths, is the central embodiment of evil. This entity is commonly referred to by a variety of names, including Satan, Asmodai, Beelzebub, Lucifer and/or Mephistopheles."

Well if you are dealing within the premise of the Bible I cam correct. If you are not then I have no answer for you.

Originally posted by Oncewhite
universe, possible around the 10th dimension right below the spiritual universe that begins in the 11th dimension and up.

This invalidates everything. Dimensions 5-11 have not been explored and are actually merely guesswork. On top of that, 11 is (for now) the maximum.

Originally posted by Oncewhite
[B]Nope, according to wikipedia, the "devil" is a title, so anyone can be one, including the entities that are trapped in the 4th deminsions

The 4th dimension is time.

Religion is evil. Get away from it.

Originally posted by Mr. Sandman
This invalidates everything. Dimensions 5-11 have not been explored and are actually merely guesswork. On top of that, 11 is (for now) the maximum.

The 4th dimension is time.

Religion is evil. Get away from it.

The 4th dimension is whatever you call it, depending on what value you give "forth", you can also call the 4th dimension space instead of time, does it change the fact that we are living in it? If you ever took physics or rather basic alegebra, you know that a variable can be switched, let x=r or y=r, it doesn't change what "r" is. If "r" is time it doesn't matter if you call it the "3rd" rank of dimension or the 4th, it still exists in the argument I am making.

The other dimensions are issues we don't know about, which makes it worth searching for, and just b/c others don't value it, doesn't mean that I will stop, even if it's crazy or humorous to someone else. Some just feed whatever is given to them, and after that, they have no appetite and are ready to play; if someone has a good appetite, and not satisfied with the titles "unknown" or the unexplained, or "theories" that still don't hold a lot of water....this kind of person is never satisfied, a real explorer is never satisfied...only the pawns...only the pawns.

and this is no offense to you, i agree with you about conventional terms of the dimensions, but it doesn't matter unless the actual "rank" matters in the argument or logical (math) conflicts you are trying to solve.

The 4th Dimesion isn't space, the first 3 are! (1D, 2D, 3D images, etc)

Names have names for a reason. Calling the 4th Dimension anything but time is creating your own language and vocabulary, and changing the definition of already existing words.

You are off your rocker. pick up some physics and quantum mechanics journals, please, for the love of all things logical.

very simple

Satan is hebrew for Adversary (originally the adversary of man as a judge)

Lucifer is latin for lightbringer

I always thought Lucifer was Greek...

Biggest point that can be made is that Lucifer does not occur within the Bible.

I'm pretty sure Lucifer was Satan's name back when he was up in heaven

Originally posted by Strangelove
I'm pretty sure Lucifer was Satan's name back when he was up in heaven

no according to Wiki He's only refered to as Satan while in heaven.

Lucifer seems to be more of a description than a name.

(I figure if Oncewhite can used David Icke as a source then Wiki's in)

Originally posted by Mr. Sandman
The 4th Dimesion isn't space, the first 3 are! (1D, 2D, 3D images, etc)

Names have names for a reason. Calling the 4th Dimension anything but time is creating your own language and vocabulary, and changing the definition of already existing words.

You are off your rocker. pick up some physics and quantum mechanics journals, please, for the love of all things logical.

You are missing my point, everyone knows that the dimension is one less then the original. And technically, the 4th dimension is 90 deg from the other three dimensions (LWH) or (xyz).

You are trying to make me say that "fourth" has to be time or space, I really don't give a shit which one you decide to say is time or space, so please lighten up and stop being an ass.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
no according to Wiki He's only refered to as Satan while in heaven.

Lucifer seems to be more of a description than a name.

(I figure if Oncewhite can used David Icke as a source then Wiki's in)

I never used David Icke as my source!! 😠

I do read strange stuff on the net, but David Icke is so boring, he shows himself too much, not much in video presentation and animation, total bore. 🍺

Originally posted by Strangelove
I'm pretty sure Lucifer was Satan's name back when he was up in heaven

Originally posted by Oncewhite
I never used David Icke as my source!! 😠

I do read strange stuff on the net, but David Icke is so boring, he shows himself too much, not much in video presentation and animation, total bore. 🍺

your first quote is almost straight from "the biggest secret" (by David Icke)

Originally posted by Nellinator
Lucifer was the word they used when translating the Greek OT to English. The original word is actually morning-star which was translated to Lucifer. Lucifer is actually the latin word for Morningstar so it was used in the translation. The passage in question is Isaiah 14:12.