The difference(s) b/t SATAN & LUCIFER

Started by Oncewhite5 pages
Originally posted by Strangelove
well there you go

Satan was never a morning star; Lucifer is the (wrong) morning star, and according to interpretation, it represented a Babylonian king that was leaving power, because later in Revelations, Jesus is the bright and morning star, so we know that Isiah talks about the false morning star, Lucifer. But this has nothing to do with Satan, which is a separate enemy or entity, that's the part I am trying to figure out based on someone elses arguments.

why do people count revelations?

its an allegory about Rome written by a pissed off St. John the Divine

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
your first quote is almost straight from "the biggest secret" (by David Icke)

I have no idea where HE gets his souces from, and again, I DO NOT AGREE WITH MUCH OF WHAT HE SAYS, BUT THIS ONE WAS VERY DIFFERENT..... so, you wanta know my source eh.... ok.

http://mindwarz.com/media/Satanluciferdevil

Like I said before, I don't agree with every site I go to, I saw his argument and wanted to see what everyone else would think of...not to be called a freak or crazy or god doesn't exist or something childish and silly. So, there you go, read up, and again, it's his opinion, but I thought maybe I would get intelligent responses from here, I did get a few.

And in case it's not painfully obvious, I am doing this for entertainment, it passes time, and it offers a unique idea that some folks put energy into...I don't care if it's from Nazis or Black panther or the Witch of Oz, if it's entertaining and can make sense, and IF IT'S NEW or something I never read before, it passes the boredom test.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
why do people count revelations?

its an allegory about Rome written by a pissed off St. John the Divine

Yeah, I heard that theory before.

If you surf through his site, there's a section that talks about whites are albino forms of blacks, I disagree with this...other stuff of his site are ok, but that part is something I don't believe, he offers an explanation as to why he feels that way, but I don't buy it.

Well, Lucifer was only ever used in referewnc eto the Babylonian king, and Satan was the fallen angel...

But in the "Standard" view, During and after the fall, Lucifer the Angel "Metamorphosized" into satan the Demon.

Re: The difference(s) b/t SATAN & LUCIFER

Originally posted by Oncewhite
Ok, I read from so many sources, it's almost a bi-polar experience, as some sources hate each other, and others are neutral.

Anyway, I can't claim this for myself, someone else thought of the differences between Satan and Lucifer.

He states the following:

"If we contrast these too we can see that Lucifer, according to world dictionaries is truly a heavenly entity, he is defined to be a light Being. Light, emanates from the mental universe, possible around the 10th dimension right below the spiritual universe that begins in the 11th dimension and up. The spiritual universe is where light is created and the creators of all things reside. The word, Lucifer is used in the King James Version only once, in Isaiah 14:12 and Lucifer is not depicted as Satan within that verse.

Within the hu-man body alone there are 7 dimensions or bodies (physical, astral, lower mind, superior mind, spirit, soul and essence). Though most humans can only access a few of these dimensions within them at given times, it is another thing to exist entirely (100 percent) in the 8th ,9th and 10th dimensions of the mental universe this is the place accessed only by well development masters, Ultraterrestial and Supreme Beings.

Satan on the other had is obviously from his definition a supernatural being, a reptilian leviathan. Reptilians are Orionians, originating from planet(s) in the Orion galaxy. These beings would be considered Extraterrestrials to us on earth. Extraterrestrials are of a lower dimension than Ultraterrestials and hold lower ranks in the Cosmic/Galactic Council. "

Now, I can't agree with everything he stated, but wanted to know what you all think of the differences between the two.'

You lost me in the 10th dimension stuff.

Re: Re: The difference(s) b/t SATAN & LUCIFER

Originally posted by Templares
You lost me in the 10th dimension stuff.

Oh, those are not my thoughts, I have that stuff in quotations (""😉...my main interest was to find out what anyone else thought of these entities as the same or different...

It seems like he borrowed this stuff from Andres Lizarazo or someone like that, he has his video online, and funny, when doing research on Atlantis (b/c it was something the Nazis were interested in, and wanted to know what was out there...just for entertainment), I ran into this guys video a month ago...I can't find it...but it's on that guys site...well, I cant' find it...but, it was there yesterday...

The real answer to the difference between the 2 terms is found in the book of revelations. The theory is that there is an entity created by God to be a guardian angel(the book of EZEKIEL) and it fallen because it corrupted its wisdom on acount of its beauty and thus became the DEVIL, and SATAN is a hebrew term which means the One who opposes or hinders God's plan.
For more accurate biblical reference see ISAIAH, EZEKIEL, & the book of REVELATIONS because they give some explanation on the DEVIL or SATAN.

They both rock!

Rock on with the dark lord! YEAH!

Re: The difference(s) b/t SATAN & LUCIFER

Originally posted by Oncewhite
Satan on the other had is obviously from his definition a supernatural being, a reptilian leviathan. Reptilians are Orionians, originating from planet(s) in the Orion galaxy.

*stops reading*

*leaves*

Re: Re: The difference(s) b/t SATAN & LUCIFER

Originally posted by PVS
*stops reading*

*leaves*

Those are not "my" words, they are in quotes and it is based on someone elses arguments and wanted to know what others saw, if u don't have an opinion, I can understand.

Re: The difference(s) b/t SATAN & LUCIFER

Originally posted by Oncewhite
Ok, I read from so many sources, it's almost a bi-polar experience, as some sources hate each other, and others are neutral.

Anyway, I can't claim this for myself, someone else thought of the differences between Satan and Lucifer.

He states the following:

"If we contrast these too we can see that Lucifer, according to world dictionaries is truly a heavenly entity, he is defined to be a light Being. Light, emanates from the mental universe, possible around the 10th dimension right below the spiritual universe that begins in the 11th dimension and up. The spiritual universe is where light is created and the creators of all things reside. The word, Lucifer is used in the King James Version only once, in Isaiah 14:12 and Lucifer is not depicted as Satan within that verse.

Within the hu-man body alone there are 7 dimensions or bodies (physical, astral, lower mind, superior mind, spirit, soul and essence). Though most humans can only access a few of these dimensions within them at given times, it is another thing to exist entirely (100 percent) in the 8th ,9th and 10th dimensions of the mental universe this is the place accessed only by well development masters, Ultraterrestial and Supreme Beings.

Satan on the other had is obviously from his definition a supernatural being, a reptilian leviathan. Reptilians are Orionians, originating from planet(s) in the Orion galaxy. These beings would be considered Extraterrestrials to us on earth. Extraterrestrials are of a lower dimension than Ultraterrestials and hold lower ranks in the Cosmic/Galactic Council. "

Now, I can't agree with everything he stated, but wanted to know what you all think of the differences between the two.'

Too many spelling mistakes for me to take seriously.

Re: Re: The difference(s) b/t SATAN & LUCIFER

Originally posted by lord xyz
Too many spelling mistakes for me to take seriously.

wow, that means u r gullible...all a person has to do is misspell there message to u, and will will dismiss any truth in the content, how intelligible is that?

Re: Re: Re: The difference(s) b/t SATAN & LUCIFER

Originally posted by Oncewhite
wow, that means u r gullible...all a person has to do is misspell there message to u, and will will dismiss any truth in the content, how intelligible is that?

What?

😆

Re: The difference(s) b/t SATAN & LUCIFER

Originally posted by Oncewhite
Ok, I read from so many sources, it's almost a bi-polar experience, as some sources hate each other, and others are neutral.

Anyway, I can't claim this for myself, someone else thought of the differences between Satan and Lucifer.

He states the following:

"If we contrast these too we can see that Lucifer, according to world dictionaries is truly a heavenly entity, he is defined to be a light Being. Light, emanates from the mental universe, possible around the 10th dimension right below the spiritual universe that begins in the 11th dimension and up. The spiritual universe is where light is created and the creators of all things reside. The word, Lucifer is used in the King James Version only once, in Isaiah 14:12 and Lucifer is not depicted as Satan within that verse.

Within the hu-man body alone there are 7 dimensions or bodies (physical, astral, lower mind, superior mind, spirit, soul and essence). Though most humans can only access a few of these dimensions within them at given times, it is another thing to exist entirely (100 percent) in the 8th ,9th and 10th dimensions of the mental universe this is the place accessed only by well development masters, Ultraterrestial and Supreme Beings.

Satan on the other had is obviously from his definition a supernatural being, a reptilian leviathan. Reptilians are Orionians, originating from planet(s) in the Orion galaxy. These beings would be considered Extraterrestrials to us on earth. Extraterrestrials are of a lower dimension than Ultraterrestials and hold lower ranks in the Cosmic/Galactic Council. "

Now, I can't agree with everything he stated, but wanted to know what you all think of the differences between the two.'

sup dude.

satan = a-hole
lucifer = a-hole
people who follow Satan = a-holes

no differences here. least not to me.

Re: Re: The difference(s) b/t SATAN & LUCIFER

Originally posted by supdude
sup dude.

satan = a-hole
lucifer = a-hole
people who follow Satan = a-holes

no differences here. least not to me.

I agree. You are right. My thread was related to someone elses description of the differences, not my own.

Re: Re: The difference(s) b/t SATAN & LUCIFER

Originally posted by supdude
sup dude.

satan = a-hole
lucifer = a-hole
people who follow Satan = a-holes

no differences here. least not to me.


Lucifer is more of an ideal then Satan.

Nah..Lucifer only means one of beauty and music ...brilliance as it was...Satan only means adversary or being against something...Satan is NOT a persona, but a thought or action...

Originally posted by debbiejo
Nah..Lucifer only means one of beauty and music ...brilliance as it was...Satan only means adversary or being against something...Satan is NOT a persona, but a thought or action...

no, I'm saying the mythological concept of Lucifer is more of in ideal then that of Satan, not the definition of the words themselves.