rasengan vs. chidori (one-thousand birds)

Started by Kento47 pages

Originally posted by leonheartmm
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Because Sasuke's straight forwards jutsu's like his lightning manipulation is would be so hard to dodge at least out of the way of a fatal wound. Like I said nobody knows what Sasuke's super new attack is and unless it's something different to do with his fire style or combining fire and lightning into a wide spread attack Deidara could possibly have dodged it. Though it had better be fire if he wants to stop Naruto's Wind Rasengan.

woo-hoo.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
woo-hoo.

how irrelavent

Ya wanna see irrelevant?

Check out the last ten pages of debating you've done.

riiiiiiight, the jutsu that itachi cudnt dodge{and later went on to become radiating multiple skewers} is gonna be dodged by diedara with ease.

To bad that wasn't Itachi just a clone, and that the clone Itachi easily followed Sasuke's movements.

actually no. it is very ambiguous whether it was a clon or not. after all, were it one, sasuke wudv noticed with shaaringan in a second. also, itachi compliments sasuke on his speed which is an indication of him comparing to itachi. furthermore, where has it ever been shown that a clone is slower than the real one?{and this isnt pein's created clones were talking about. but bunshins} . they just have little endurance and chakra.

Um...Sasuke can't tell the difference between Naruto's shadow clones. Itachi's clones are pretty much the same. And Itachi doesn't suddenly turn into birds after he is hit. And sure Itachi would comment on Sasuke's speed since Sasuke has gotten a lot faster than last time.

Originally posted by Blaxican
Naruto is stronger then Sasuke in the first place. Naruto purposly lost to Sasuke when they fought in there demonish forms in front of the waterfall. Naruto aimed for Sasuke's headband, while Sasuke was aiming to kill. I have no doubt that if Naruto had gone all out with a killer intent he would have won that match.

At the end, Sasuke hit Naruto's stomach, he himself stated that he didn't want to kill Naruto. (Old post, I know >.<😉

Originally posted by Kento
Um...Sasuke can't tell the difference between Naruto's shadow clones. Itachi's clones are pretty much the same. And Itachi doesn't suddenly turn into birds after he is hit. And sure Itachi would comment on Sasuke's speed since Sasuke has gotten a lot faster than last time.

so deidara would have been able to dodge something that itachi's clone whom by the way is just as fast as the original itachi was unable to dodge

Originally posted by yungz22
so deidara would have been able to dodge something that itachi's clone whom by the way is just as fast as the original itachi was unable to dodge

Is speed dependent on Chakra?

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
At the end, Sasuke hit Naruto's stomach, he himself stated that he didn't want to kill Naruto. (Old post, I know >.<😉
He didn't want to kill him at the end after the fight stopped but through the whole fight Sasuke tried to kill him..and failed.

Originally posted by yungz22
so deidara would have been able to dodge something that itachi's clone whom by the way is just as fast as the original itachi was unable to dodge
To bad Itachi's clone easily followed Sasuke so there is no reason to believe he couldn't have dodged Sasuke since it's not like he needed to dodge and the clone wouldn't be as fast as the original Itachi anyways because chakra splits up between the clones so he'd be weaker by half and slower. He's not like Naruto who can just keep spamming shadow clones and still seem the same.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Is speed dependent on Chakra?
Yea pretty much. Unless it's Rock Lee..not sure about Gai. You can increase you're speed with chakra also along with strength.

Originally posted by Kento
Um...Sasuke can't tell the difference between Naruto's shadow clones. Itachi's clones are pretty much the same. And Itachi doesn't suddenly turn into birds after he is hit. And sure Itachi would comment on Sasuke's speed since Sasuke has gotten a lot faster than last time.

lol, actually, he can tell the difference at first sight with his shaaringan. he said it himself. its BYAAKUGEN which cant tell the difference. he was using his shaaringan when he attacked itachi clone wasnt he{im a lil hazy}.

an no clones have the same physical feats as i said. chakra is based on stamina, NOT the other way around. speed is not based on chakra, that only happens when u open gates and that only happens because the gates let ur MUSCLES work more than ur bodies "controls" let them. all the "chakra" does is take away upper limit from ur body's "controls". diedara wudv died, end of story.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
lol, actually, he can tell the difference at first sight with his shaaringan. he said it himself. its BYAAKUGEN which cant tell the difference. he was using his shaaringan when he attacked itachi clone wasnt he{im a lil hazy}.

an no clones have the same physical feats as i said. chakra is based on stamina, NOT the other way around. speed is not based on chakra, that only happens when u open gates and that only happens because the gates let ur MUSCLES work more than ur bodies "controls" let them. all the "chakra" does is take away upper limit from ur body's "controls". diedara wudv died, end of story.

To bad Sasuke used chakra to get as fast as he did against Gaara while Lee's was pure speed. So that throws that out. And Naruto suddenly got a lot faster when getting one-tail which upped his chakra, and Sasuke did also when going cursed seal.

And there is no difference between Naruto and his Shadow Clones so no sharingan can't tell the difference. Byakugan > Sharingan when it comes to things like that anyway. And yea Sasuke was using his Sharingan when he hit the Itachi clone.

i just noticed that this thread is always at the top of the anime page, but is still not to 1,000 posts yet XD

Originally posted by Kento
To bad Sasuke used chakra to get as fast as he did against Gaara while Lee's was pure speed. So that throws that out. And Naruto suddenly got a lot faster when getting one-tail which upped his chakra, and Sasuke did also when going cursed seal.

And there is no difference between Naruto and his Shadow Clones so no sharingan can't tell the difference. Byakugan > Sharingan when it comes to things like that anyway. And yea Sasuke was using his Sharingan when he hit the Itachi clone.

all the speed diffrences you mentioned were based on a bloodline or a chakra boost regular speed like lee's and sasuke's now is based on stamina

Originally posted by yungz22
all the speed diffrences you mentioned were based on a bloodline or a chakra boost regular speed like lee's and sasuke's now is based on stamina
Chakra has to do with stamina. Sasuke's faster than he was because his chakra has risen also. Obviously the stronger chakra doesn't mean faster than anybody since Tsunade isn't exactly speedy sure but every time Sasuke increased his chakra he got faster. Lee's speed and Sasuke's speed are completely different in the fact Lee's speed isn't based on his chakra.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
lol, actually, he can tell the difference at first sight with his shaaringan. he said it himself. its BYAAKUGEN which cant tell the difference. he was using his shaaringan when he attacked itachi clone wasnt he{im a lil hazy}.

an no clones have the same physical feats as i said. chakra is based on stamina, NOT the other way around. speed is not based on chakra, that only happens when u open gates and that only happens because the gates let ur MUSCLES work more than ur bodies "controls" let them. all the "chakra" does is take away upper limit from ur body's "controls". diedara wudv died, end of story.

Thanks, I thought speed not dependent on chakra as it was connected to taijutsu which doesn't need chakra.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Thanks, I thought speed not dependent on chakra as it was connected to taijutsu which doesn't need chakra.

exactly your right

Originally posted by yungz22
exactly your right

Please brief me up on this debate wouldja? I don't feel like reading 39 pages.