Count Dooku vs. TPM Darth Maul & Qui-Gon

Since it was decided Maul and Qui-Gon clean house with the duo Dooku whooped, how about this fight?

Nice thread!

Count Dooku is a superior lightsaber duel to Maul or Qui-Gon Jinn. He is also more skilled in the use of the Force.

I rank Darth Maul to be between Obi-Wan Kenobi and Cin Drallig/Depa Billaba.

Qui-Gon Jinn is considerably weaker than Dooku, and he'll go down soon.

I would say that the duo would go all out upon Dooku and that the Count will spare no time with toying theatrics and such. He’ll eliminate QGJ with Force mastery and lightsaber prowess.

This will leave him with Maul. The Zabrak Sith Lord will provide a good fight, but shall fall in the end.

I really want to say Qui Gon and Maul, because:
Qui Gon-
* The best lightsaber user Obi Wan Has ever seen.
* On par with Mace Windu as of TPM.
* Could have easily been on the council.
* Knowledgeable and wise of the force (seeing as how he was the first to come back from the dead).

Maul:
* "An almost unstoppable weapon" (Ultimate Visual Guide, page 32).
* He had "Constant training to become stronger, faster, and smarter than any adversary could anticipate," and showed it (Same).
* "Masters the lightsaber and practices martial arts and marksmanship" (Same).
* Extremely resilient to pain.
* http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=11&page=001 (Tell me if you're too lazy to read through, and just want specifics).
* Uses "ruthless fighting techniques" and "superior Sith fighting skills" to kill Qui Gon. (Page 39)
* An "Incredible warrior" (Databank).
* Uses unique fighting styles, like Teras Kasi forms with his lightsaber.

But:

Acording to the ROTS novel, during Dookus fight with Anakin and Obi Wan, while Obi Wan was faking weakness and using Qui Gons form, it stated that "Kenobi's Master had been Qui-Gon Jinn, Dooku's own Padawan; Dooku had fenced Qui-Gon thousands of times, and he knew every weakness of the Ataro form, with its ridiculous acrobatics." He went on with about three strikes that he was positive would kill Kenobi, due to him using Ataru (luckily Kenobi stopped feigning in time and went to Soresu).

If Dooku can really "burn through his spine from kidneys to shoulder blades" and kill Qui Gon as fast as he thought he would be able to, then, he takes out Qui Gon, and after a tough match, eventually defeats Maul (rightfully assuming that Maul and Qui Gon can't go at him with a lot of synergy).

It doesn't seem to add up, but, there you have it. Depending on the circumstances and arena, it could change, but, it looks like Dooku has this, due to his knowing everything about Qui Gon's form, and, Qui Gon himself, I would imagine. 😬

Did you just say Qui Gonn was the best lightsaber duelist Obiwan has ever seen? If that's the case, Obiwan should get out more.

I think Qui Gon, along with Maul, are underestimated. They are some of the top dogs of their time.

Their time sucked.

With Sidious and Yoda? I don't think so. They're the strongest Sith/ Jedi up until their time.

In saber combat? Doubtful..

Originally posted by The Sith'ari
Their time sucked.

Stunning argument. You're devolving back to your annoying days. And to think I tried to stop Darth Sexy from bashing the hell out of you. Anyways, for this, the phrase "prove up or shut up" comes to mind.

I'm not sure about this one, Dooku could take this, seeing as Maul and Qui-Gon will work poorly together, but even then, it'd be close, so I'm really not sure. Probably the duo.

And the TPM era wasn't the greatest but it didn't suck. Maul was most certainly in the top 5 of that era, Qui-Gon in the top 10.

Originally posted by Gideon
You're devolving back to your annoying days.

And you're devolving back to your woman days. Now at least I had the courtesy to not point it out, Granny Gideon.

Originally posted by The Sith'ari
And you're devolving back to your woman days. Now at least I had the courtesy to not point it out, Granny Gideon.

A stunning comeback to coincide with a stunning argument. On a roll, aren't we?

Why thank you Nana G!

Originally posted by The Sith'ari
Why thank you Nana G!

Lmao, you're very welcome. Now, focus on the argument.

Dooku pwns. He absolutely destroys Maul with his superior force abilities, the proceeds to crush Jinn with his saber prowess - all while sipping a martini. Seriously though, the duo dont have a chance.

Originally posted by Rampant ox
Dooku pwns. He absolutely destroys Maul with his superior force abilities, the proceeds to crush Jinn with his saber prowess - all while sipping a martini. Seriously though, the duo dont have a chance.

I believe that would be a slight exaggeration. He doesn't pwn them. Maul possesses an outrageous amount of stamina and Qui-Gon would have a strong familiarity with Makashi as well. He probably wins, but he does not pwn.

Maul can have all the stamina in the world, it doesnt stop Dooku from being leagues above him in both force abilities and swordsmanship. Im quite sure Maul will be defeated before Dooku gets tired, therefore his 'outrageous amount of stamina' would be rendered useless.

Qui-Gon doesnt stand a chance - if what Dooku said in the ROTS novelisation is anything to go by.

what'd he say?

Rampant, Dooku is NOT leagues above Maul, in fact, Maul is a greater swordsman that Dooku is. In Both Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter and Cloak of Deception state that Anoon Bondara is the Order's finest swordsman, this is an order which includes Dooku and Yoda, and Maul proved himself to be a better swordsman that Anoon when he defeated him. Dooku is stronger than Maul with the Force but Maul's not weak in that category, either, he wouldn't get pwnd, anyway.

Yeah, Rampant, Maul alone wouldn't get pwned by Dooku, nevermind him plus someone else. I mean, Qui Gon is really good, but, Dooku knows his moves perfectly. Now that I think about it, maybe he couldn't kill him in a few strikes, but, without a good amount of teamwork from Maul, Qui Gon's going down. After that, Dooku will fight hard to fend off Maul, but, he will most likely eventually overcome him.