Originally posted by NellinatorEh? I don't understand what you mean "but if they are guilty of evil they think God has no place to stop them from doing what they want", or "It's a good thing that God has found the happy medium." and who are you to say non-christians are contradictory. What the hell have non-christians tried to prove?
I decided that non-believers contradict themselves. They want God to intervene and stop evil, but if they are guilty of evil they think God has no place to stop them from doing what they want. It's a good thing that God has found the happy medium.
Originally posted by Nellinator
I decided that non-believers contradict themselves. They want God to intervene and stop evil, but if they are guilty of evil they think God has no place to stop them from doing what they want. It's a good thing that God has found the happy medium.
As if evil existed out side of our selves. Evil is not an independent force.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
If I were God I would create two creatures called human beings. I would name them Adam and Eve.They would live in my Garden, called the Garden of Eden....
Then I would put a tree called the "Tree of Knowledge" and tell Adam and Eve they couldn't eat the fruit from that fkn tree ! I would put that tree thier simply to instigate some kind of conflict, and some kind of means by which they can offend me.....
Then I would send a snake there to harass them, and tempt them to eat the fruit....since I created him before I created them, and since he is such a powerful deciever, I'd expect Adam and Eve to betray me.
Then I'd cast them out of the Garden, throw a drama queen hissy fit, throw thunder bolts all over the damn place, and cast the snake into an eternal hellfire, until I can summon him to instigate further for me...
I'd curse all of thier offspring by automatically sending the souls of thier children to hell, even though they didn't do anything.
Then a few centuries later, I would make NO CONTACT with thier offspring....i'd simply watch in anger as the human race learns to develop, and makes mistakes doing so.....
I'd burn down cities, smite those who anger me, send a ghost to kill young babies, and just drown the entire world, cuz im' f*cked up like that.....
Then i'd have the nerve to tell them I do what I do out of Love, and not boredom or sadism or ne thing like that....
I'd expect them to worship me, beleive in me, and obey me even though I do not intend to prove my existance to them....even though thier are tons of other religions that already exist, i'd still expect them to relinquish thier infidel beleifs and beleive in me !
Then I would send my son to a poor village, have him speak on my behalf, and then get killed through a horrendous death, because I feel there hasn't already been enough bloodshed !
[b]I LOVE BLOOD !
droolioThen even though I already sacraficed and tortured my own son, I'd still leave the Gates of Hell open, and the Gates of Heaven closed.
I would summon Satan, the snake I banished long ago, and order him to harass and tempt my children some more ! I need an excuse to punish people, and I can't punish them if they didn't do ne thing wrong !
So......
HE tempts them, they fail....they either beleive other things, enact in homosexual activity, lie, kill other people, dont pray enough, dont go to church, shave thier beards, eat read meat, vote for Clinton, or do some other sh*t that offends the f&ck outta me...
So I raise the temperature in Hell, watch it BOIL...I can't WAIT to send some of these people there ! They're just asking for it !
I WANT BLOOD !
I will rely on Satan to do the job for me.....to tempt people, give me a reason to punish them, then punish Satan once he's finished....even though he was only doing his job....
Oh how I will burn them ! The Jews, the Homosexuals, the Atheists, the Buddhists, the Liberals !
I will watch them burn and laugh !
As they suffer for all fkn eternity, and no matter how much they beg, I will say "HA HA ! TOO LATE !"
Even though I never gave any proof of my existance, I will still punish them for thier lack of beleif and devotion to my utter perfection !
Aren't you guys glad I'm not God ? [/B]
I'd gloat. Make everyone writhe with envy over my powers, and make them feel like failures for there entire pitiful existances.
And I'd make sure that NO ONE could deny my existance, by doing this every minute of there lives.
Originally posted by Nellinator
I decided that non-believers contradict themselves. They want God to intervene and stop evil, but if they are guilty of evil they think God has no place to stop them from doing what they want. It's a good thing that God has found the happy medium.
1) A non-beleiver cannot "want God" to do anything since they don't beleive in God.
2) I don't think I intentionally participate in "evil", if you count promiscuity or homosexuality as "evil", then that's your problem, not mine.
True Evil is cruelty, hatred, and sadism.
Those are REAL problems....real problems of this world such as global starvation, poverty, and disease....and then you Evangelicals focus soo much time, money, and energy against things like Abortion and Gay Marriage, which do not matter in comparison to the true evils this world is really experiencing.
Really? So 1. You now define what is considered loving and good?
2. What if free will is the highest good?
ehh no 1 your so called saviour in the person refereed to as christ did that and if you find the events of starving children around the world , or war torn civilians around earth as loving and good deeds I guess you are a real christian
2 free will was broken down once according to the bible even so if this god regretted his actions of the flood, kind of old and demented then was this gods actions of Sodom and Gomorrah and who really are this gods people aint they all this gods creation, but it got some favorites
Originally posted by Jadyn
Really? So 1. You now define what is considered loving and good?
Well, I definately see it loving and good to take away someone's suffering....your god has not done a good job at that.
Originally posted by Jadyn
2. What if free will is the highest good?
Then that's pathetic and God should not be mad at us for excorsizing our free will, which you imply is "the highest good"
Originally posted by finti
ehh no 1 your so called saviour in the person refereed to as christ did that and if you find the events of starving children around the world , or war torn civilians around earth as loving and good deeds I guess you are a real christian
2 free will was broken down once according to the bible even so if this god regretted his actions of the flood, kind of old and demented then was this gods actions of Sodom and Gomorrah and who really are this gods people aint they all this gods creation, but it got some favorites
1. The Christian church does more to fight world poverty and suffering than any other institution. 2. Free will exists. What we do with it is up to us. If we use it to break the rules, we get punished. It's as simple as that.
Originally posted by Jadyn
1. The Christian church does more to fight world poverty and suffering than any other institution. 2. Free will exists. What we do with it is up to us. If we use it to break the rules, we get punished. It's as simple as that.
The church is not God
Why would God create us and give us free will if he was just going to ignore the fact and tell us what to do with our lives? (sounds mean or insane to me)
1. The Christian church does more to fight world poverty and suffering than any other institution. 2. Free will exists. What we do with it is up to us. If we use it to break the rules, we get punished. It's as simple as that.1. is that propaganda they feed you with????? after all the crap the christian church have inflicted on this word they sure do need some making up time, here in Norway we have none religious groups that are far better in conducting the works around third world countries than christian groups, why? cause they dont waste time in trying to convert the ones they help into being like them
Originally posted by finti
1. is that propaganda they feed you with????? after all the crap the christian church have inflicted on this word they sure do need some making up time, here in Norway we have none religious groups that are far better in conducting the works around third world countries than christian groups, why? cause they dont waste time in trying to convert the ones they help into being like them
2. of course free will exist, but then again we of the so called free rules made the rules (laws)so the latter actually is pretty obvious
1. I'm...not exactly sure what you said. I actually didn't hear that stat from a Christian, I heard it from Newsweek magazine. There are more mission stations helping educate poor kids in third-world countries than any other foundation. Yeah, the church has screwed up, but who hasn't? Why, exactly, does everyone assume that Christians have to be perfect or they are hypocritical idiots?
Also, don't misunderstand me, I don't think that the Christian should go around converting people, or that you should fulfill a quota of converts or anything like that. Heck, I hang out with people who don't exactly have the best reputations. I don't condescend to them, I don't try and guilt trip them, but I don't join them. I talk about my religion more on message boards like these than I do in real life. My job, as a Christian, is to do the best I can to lead a moral life. That includes helping whomever I can in the way that will do the most overall good.
2. Whether or not we made the rules depends on your religion. Personally, I believe that God made the rules.
What would I do?
I would find some way to change: to grow. The problem with an omnipotent being is, you cannot change. I would divide myself into countess billions of small copies of myself, and I would make them mortal. They then could grow and change, and when they died, they would return to me, and I would then change and grow.
Originally posted by Nellinator
I decided that non-believers contradict themselves. They want God to intervene and stop evil, but if they are guilty of evil they think God has no place to stop them from doing what they want. It's a good thing that God has found the happy medium.
True. But unfortunately, most of mankind still won't accept the happy medium. I'm betting if Jesus came to this world and begged each one of us to come with him, there'd still be individuals who would choose Hell.