Originally posted by Jadyn
Really? So 1. You now define what is considered loving and good?
2. What if free will is the highest good?
How can free will be the highest good? Free will condemns too many people to hell and suffering. So, free will is a farce.
And yes, christian missionaries do feed a lot of poor people in the third world. But they aren't there just to feed them. There there to educate and convert them. That's why they're called missionaries. Because they're on a mission. And feeding people is one thing, but when those missionaries are the only outlet to education these people have, they're going to take advantage of that. And they're being taught to be christians. That's been going on for hundreds of years. Africa, the Middle East, South America, parts of Asia.
Also these people roll into rural agricultural communities and play religious movies for them. This is pretty much deplorable, considering most of these people have never even seen a light bulb.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
When Jesus came back didn't he say that everyone would be able to know it was him if he wished to reveal it?
Yes, but going back to the rich man/Lazarus parable..the problem is that one would not know that it was Jesus, if they never had faith in him(or love for him) to begin with.
Originally posted by Thundar
Yes, but going back to the rich man/Lazarus parable..the problem is that one would not know that it was Jesus, if they never had faith in him(or love for him) to begin with.
So what if he returned and met people who had never heard of Christ would he reveal himself to them? (serious question I'm just curious)
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
So what if he returned and met people who had never heard of Christ would he reveal himself to them? (serious question I'm just curious)
Taken from that other thread where we've had this same tautological discussion..
Originally posted by Thundar
Everyone in heaven will be a Christian, either by believing in Christ's sacrifice, or by lovingly fulfilling the law if they never knew or heard of him.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
😮we do seem to have the same argument a lot
but how does a person love someone they don't know
Anyone who knows "love" as it is defined by the bible, knows "God." (For the biblical definition of love, look up 1 Corinthian 13:1-13 on google)
Still, their love will not be "perfected" in Christ, until he has displaced all "fear" of this world from them, and assigned that fear to himself("fear" in this sense meaning..respect or reverence).
Once one is made aware of the bible and of Jesus's loving sacrifice, they are required to have faith in him alone, in order to be saved.
Originally posted by Thundar
Anyone who knows "love" as it is defined by the bible, knows "God." (For the biblical definition of love, look up 1 Corinthian 13:1-13 on google)
Love is long suffering,
love is kind,
it is not jealous,
love does not boast,
it is not inflated.
It is not discourteous,
it is not selfish,
it is not irritable,
it does not enumerate the evil.
It does not rejoice over the wrong, but rejoices in the truth
nice 🙂
You don't need to google verses.
http://www.biblegateway.com/keyword/
Just type in what your looking for and you can see it in multilple translations. Its another useful sight I have found.