Ryu vs Terry Bogard

Originally posted by Sado22
exactly! Terry is better in almost all the departments, except maybe power.
speed. terry
experience. terry
fighting spirit. terry
career. terry
even power in sorts, since Terry scared Geese' body with his punches...and ryu had to go metsushoryuken to scar Sagat.
oh and better english! 😉

Terry for the win!

-Speed is debatable, Ryu's not slow.
-Experience? right... 🙄
-Fighting Spirit?!.... 🙄
-Career, Terry owns jobbers.
-Ryu blew Bison away with a standard Shoryuken.

Originally posted by Sado22
terry has a life...while at the same time kicks all sorts of @$$. he is street smart, lives a carefree life and has a personality.
by the way, ninjajj...nice avatar! 😈

All this is your oppinion however.

Originally posted by Sado22
Iori, Goenitz, Omega Rugal, the Orochi Sacred Team, Orochi, Igniz, possibly Mukai and the new boss of KoFXI

Thats crap, Orochi is the only one due to plot device, the rest are probablyt about even with SFer's top tier.

Originally posted by Sado22
and remy, please don't laugh because i can give you proof that Iori is even stronger than Goenitz.

Current Iori maybe, but not while Goenitz was still alive.

Originally posted by Sado22
possibly the fact that Terry knows where the tournaments are going to be held, where to find good fighters.......or just the fact that he has a life.

So what? Ryu knows all that stuff too, and he maybe entirely fighting oriented, but thats not all he does 24-7, hell the guy still has to eat sleep and sh!t like a normal human.

Originally posted by Sado22
[B]Ash isnt the new hero.kyo is the new hero again. that is why Kyo won KoF2003 tournametn and most likely won the KoFXI as well.
also Ash hasn't beaten Kyo yet.
when was the last time in videogames that the "main character" is a villain? though i'd point it out since you seem to like things that break the mould.

Yeah. You know Sado it sucks. Kyo is the now THE HERO again 😘 . At least Terry moved aside so Rock can shine.

Speed is debatable, Ryu's not slow.

Experience? right...

Fighting Spirit?!

Career, Terry owns jobbers.

Ryu blew Bison away with a standard Shoryuken.

Ryu isn't God darko. there are those who surpass him in many departments.

~Sado

Dark Ryu defeats Terry... he's capable of defeating almost anyone from KOF Great Four (which is Kyo, Iori, Terry and K'😉...I don't include Ash Crimson and Alba Meira for some reasons- Ash is not a hero and MI is a spinoff of main KOF universe.
But if it's just normal Ryu, without that stupid blowing-up-an-usland-move, he gets beaten by Terry as well as by anyone of the guys mentioned above. Not easy, after great fight- but he wins...something like 5-6\10...

the bosses from kof have all lost

and the bosses from Sf have never lost

i still say that

M.Bison
Shin Gouki
Gill
Unsealed Oro

would beat 80 % of the bosses of kof

Originally posted by Sado22
Ryu was never famous for having "blinding speed" now was he, sherlock? Terry has blinding speed. moves like buster wolf, shining knuckle have him literally a blur when he does them. not to mention that he can dodge bullets from machine guns while getting kicks out of it.
....blew your argument right out of the water, darko.

No you didn't. If your speed arguments are based purely on Supers and Specials, then Ryu spins with enough speed and force to create tornadoes and suction during his Shinkuu Tatsumaki Senpuu Kyaku. His regular Hurricane kick gives him enough lift to stay in the air. and Ryu also dodges bullets... Argument countered.

Originally posted by Sado22
terry's been on the streets since the age of 10. he was on the street even before Jeff adopted him and Andy. Terry has been fighting EVERDAY in the streets of SouthTown since then and he is 35 years old now. do the math: 35-10=25 years of fighting experience.....and around 30 if you count the years prior to being adopted. not to mention that Terry was never a dojo dork and has infact been getting REAL fighting training since the age for 30 years now.
ryu was 23 when he started and in SF3 is 33. 33-23=10.
there argument 2 blow out of the water.

Prove it was every day for one.

Dojo Dork? what, because Ryu was trraining with one of the best martial artists in the world?... you sure do like to pick and choose... Ryu was an orphan, he was raised by Gouken as a fighter, and in his very first running outside the doji, he became the WW champ. Yeah, thats much better than running around Southtown for 15 years beating on bums thugs and punks.

Originally posted by Sado22
don't care what you say. to me someone who has never been beaten, plot device or not, is one who shows more spirit than someone who lost to a person who is a tier below him.

Then your narrow viewed and completely unrealistic, not to mention that you still don't consider circumstances.

Originally posted by Sado22
and ryu loses to people weaker than him and never once won a tournament......since he stopped being a cheapwhore anyway.

He won the WWT twice, WTF are you on about?

Originally posted by Sado22
Terry defeated a godtier....beats it by a mile.

Bison WAS a godtier at the time........ AND he defeated Akuma before that. Now I am starting to wonder if your smoking something illegal...

Originally posted by Sado22
Ryu isn't God darko. there are those who surpass him in many departments.

I never denied this, in fact I am the one who said that most before you came here, but that is certainly no excuse to sell him short either, or promote other characters above him for no reason.

Originally posted by shin_remy
the bosses from kof have all lost

and the bosses from Sf have never lost

i still say that

M.Bison
Shin Gouki
Gill
Unsealed Oro

would beat 80 % of the bosses of kof

Have you ever considered the idea that the SF bosses have never lost just because they had nobody to lose to, since SF cast was too weak to deal with them? 😆 It's just stupid to bring the reasons like that, since they are laughable...
Are they unbeatable because of their great strength or just because there's no desent rivals for them?

And Ryu has never dodged bullets as far as I know. He dodged aim...Hell, James Bond has also dodged aim- so now James Bond has superhuman speed? 😆 😂

ryu can dodge bullets, he already could in sf alpha

and that the cast of sf is to weak for them is maybe true, but the same can be said about kof.

in kof they are a tagteam to beat a boss.

and in Sf Alpha 3 M.Bison fought :

His own teacher, Rose and Guy, 12 dolls, Cammy, Chun li, Guile, Charlie, Sakura, Ken, and Ryu, and about Sagat i don't know

he was forced to retreat!!

The SF bosses-> have lost. What nonsense is that?

And we keep labeling Terry opponents as "jobbers", but what do we call Bison being blew away by a standart Shoryuken?

Because it still took upwards of 6 characters in total to defeat Bison in Alpha.

Now what Akuma did to him at the end of SF2, THAT was epic jobbing...

ryu can dodge bullets, he already could in sf alpha

and that the cast of sf is to weak for them is maybe true, but the same can be said about kof.

in kof they are a tagteam to beat a boss.

and in Sf Alpha 3 M.Bison fought. he was forced to retreat
His own teacher, Rose and Guy, 12 dolls, Cammy, Chun li, Guile, Charlie, Sakura, Ken, and Ryu, and about Sagat i don't know!!

rugal took on entire KoF cast and was winng. and remember he wasn't fighitng school girls. he won. Bison lost to 12 underaged girls. who is better?

Orochi Iori took on entire KoF97 roaster...and don't forget the O.Iori is weaker than regular Iori. Orochi Iori was winning. Bison ran away from one punch from Ryu. who is stronger?

Orochi and Igniz took on the entire roaster of KoF97 and KoF2001 and BARELY lost. Bison was engaged by ONE Charlie long enough. Who is better?

see shinremy and darkstorm (and all other people out here)
all of this is a lot better than:
fighting 12 girls and then running away. which by the way, means that he was going to lose...since why else would he run? so basically on one hand you have Omega Rugal who was pwning the entire cast of KoF95 and on the other hand you have Bison who was losing to 12 girls. and Omega rugal was not even Goenitz' left nut in terms of power.
sure...godtier! yeah...got it....

~Sado

The Great Four of KOF is Kyo, Iori, Terry and K'... Ryo isn't included in that list since his great days belong to the past.
But anyways, normal Bison is Original Zero level... which means that anyone of the great four can possibly beat him one-to-one...

And the flameusing part of great 4 aren't just "superpowers happy" ones. Wielding flames doesn't mean lack of fighting skills. People like to bring up the thing about Kyo and K' being lazy about training... Just because someone doesn't like to do something doiesn't mean that he doesn't do it.
K' and Kyo have more than enough reasons to hate hard training... Since I sure that training with Saisyu (or how does his name spell) or the training provided by NESTS instructors wasn't the most pleasant pasttime, yet very useful.
Stop underrating Kyo just because he isn't a dojo dork and actually lazy in everyday life...but not when it comes to fighting.

Originally posted by olympian
The SF bosses-> have lost. What nonsense is that?

And we keep labeling Terry opponents as "jobbers", but what do we call Bison being blew away by a standart Shoryuken?

Originally posted by Sado22

see shinremy and darkstorm (and all other people out here)
all of this is a lot better than:
fighting 12 girls and then running away. which by the way, means that he was going to lose...since why else would he run? so basically on one hand you have Omega Rugal who was pwning the entire cast of KoF95 and on the other hand you have Bison who was losing to 12 girls. and Omega rugal was not even Goenitz' left nut in terms of power.
sure...godtier! yeah...got it....

~Sado

still

Bison didn't lose in Alpha, he was just playing.. he didn't care about his enemy's

His own teacher, Rose and Guy, 12 dolls, Cammy, Chun li, Guile, Charlie, Sakura, Ken, and Ryu, Sagat.

He never lost, he only retreated

Bison didn't lose in Alpha, he was just playing.. he didn't care about his enemy's

His own teacher, Rose and Guy, 12 dolls, Cammy, Chun li, Guile, Charlie, Sakura, Ken, and Ryu, Sagat.

AGAIN, you don't retreat if you are winning.

He never lost, he only retreated

@ Charlotte
the thing is, SNK only says Kyo hates effort and he has shown how much he hates it when it comes to studies (lol). however, Kyo has reinvneted himself as a fighter on 2 occassions and i'm pretty sure he will do the same after his loss to Iori in KoFXI. he totally changed his arsenal of moves in KoF96 upon his loss to Goenitz. as a fighter, it takes a LOT of effort and struggle to change your whole style of fighting. and there is no one in videogames who has ever done that except for Kyo and Jin Kazama. not ryu, not terry. Kyo also reinvented himself in KoF99 again.
not to mention that in oneday, Kyo took on and defeated the finalist team of KoF97, then took on Orochi Iori along with the rest of the cast and was the main target of Orochi Iori, took on the Orochi Sacred team, took on Orochi, lost, and then took him on with Iori's help and won....then powered up and landed such a blow that it KO'd a god like Orochi.............................all of this is a hell of an effort for a man who is supposed to hate "effort" isn't it 🙄
my theory is this: Kyo hates effort only if it has to do with something besides fighting. Kyo is a natural, true, but he has shown effort and worked his @$$ off on more than one occassion.

as for K' being lazy....all i have to say is bullsh!t. K' isn't lazy. K' did the same as Kyo: took on and won the final round of the KoF2001 tourny, took on O.Zero and his minions, and then took on Igniz, lost, and then took on Igniz (who is infact stronger than Orochi) and KO'd himself. again, hell of an effort for a man who is supposed to hate it.

~Sado

They just don't bother with things like sport and studies (and about sport and K' it's not even completely true- he hates taking part in any formal competition including KOF, but he's quite proficient as driver and motorcycle rider (shown by MI2 ending and official art- but again, that's not really sport, but a hobby).
Being lazy about studies\formal training or competitions doesn't mean that those two can't beat a dojo dork like Ken, for example.

I thought the dojo dork thing was done for. NONE of these guys are dojo dorks. Not even lame @ss Ryo Suckassaki. Why? If they were they would just stay in the dojo like b*tches & never take on a real fight.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
-Career, Terry owns jobbers.

indeed

And Ken is my man in SF

Ah I see someone is now taking shots again real cool.

😆 I am taking shots blood bro, but if you think about it you'll realize that last one wasn't for you. Relax mane. No need for the hothead routine