Originally posted by Sado22
Terry can take on people with machine guns, dodge bullets and get kicks out of it (as in have fun). Kyo is arguable as skilled as Terry if not more. Iori is even more skilled. do the math.
That stilldoesn't counter my argument...
Originally posted by Sado22
Kof cast isn't weak. Heck Athena is an incarnate of a goddess and she is a midtier character.
And that means what?.... yeah, thought so... absolutely nothing.
Originally posted by Sado22
what do you call, having Bison face Ryu, ken, sakura and sagat?
it was a free for all gauntlet.
Rose, Guy, Guile, Chun Li, Charlie, Cammy, all the dolls....
Originally posted by Sado22
rugal took on entire KoF cast and was winng. and remember he wasn't fighitng school girls. he won. Bison lost to 12 underaged girls. who is better?
No he didn't... and the Dolls are all genetically enhanced well beyond human levels, so your argument of "Just schoolgorls" is completely misleading... They may be young, but they can tear the f@ckerout of regular midtiers any day.
Originally posted by Sado22
Orochi Iori took on entire KoF97 roaster...and don't forget the O.Iori is weaker than regular Iori. Orochi Iori was winning. Bison ran away from one punch from Ryu. who is stronger?
O.Iori was only reffered to as weaker by Ash, who was beating on an already weakened Iori at the time, no dice. and Bison was taking on heaps of characters at once, the Shoryuken just happened to be the finishing blow that blew him up.
Originally posted by Sado22
Orochi and Igniz took on the entire roaster of KoF97 and KoF2001 and BARELY lost. Bison was engaged by ONE Charlie long enough. Who is better?
Again, it was more than just Charlie dude...
Originally posted by Sado22
see shinremy and darkstorm (and all other people out here)
all of this is a lot better than:
fighting 12 girls and then running away. which by the way, means that he was going to lose...since why else would he run? so basically on one hand you have Omega Rugal who was pwning the entire cast of KoF95 and on the other hand you have Bison who was losing to 12 girls. and Omega rugal was not even Goenitz' left nut in terms of power.
sure...godtier! yeah...got it....
You certainly like to pick and chose... already explained the Dolls.
That stilldoesn't counter my argument...
And that means what?.... yeah, thought so... absolutely nothing.
Rose, Guy, Guile, Chun Li, Charlie, Cammy, all the dolls....
No he didn't... and the Dolls are all genetically enhanced well beyond human levels, so your argument of "Just schoolgorls" is completely misleading... They may be young, but they can tear the f@ckerout of regular midtiers any day
O.Iori was only reffered to as weaker by Ash, who was beating on an already weakened Iori at the time, no dice. and Bison was taking on heaps of characters at once, the Shoryuken just happened to be the finishing blow that blew him up.
Again, it was more than just Charlie dude...
he didn't face them ALL at one time.
You certainly like to pick and chose... already explained the Dolls
~Sado
Originally posted by Sado22
...and my name is Kurt Cobain
I like pizza 😛
Originally posted by Sado22
talking to Shinremy's regarding his comment about KoF cast being weaklings.
I don't agree with Remy, in fact I know a few bosses can own most of the SF cast, but that doesn't mean that the KOF cast is generally stronger than Sfer.
Originally posted by Sado22
...are you paying attention?! what did you sniff anyway? go read why i'm saying that first.
I did, youonly named about 30% of the people Bison faced.
Originally posted by Sado22
at any rate, the dolls weren't enhanced like you say they are. neither is cammy. they are just trained fighters.
and why in the wrold would someone retreat if he is winning the fight, darko? why? its obvious...bison was losing and had to retreat.
Yes they where, they where brainwashed, genetically enhanced through the Drive, and given metahuman physical capabilities... For example, Juni's Mach Slide was taken from Data on Akuma's Ashura Senku.
Originally posted by Sado22
don't copy my lines😛
anyway, Ash was beating on Orochi Iori for one, and he passed the comment about O.Iori being weaker than Iori, before he even took him on. so yeah...dice.
Then it requires further coroboration, because ingame evidence points WAY in the other direction.
Originally posted by Sado22
the shoryuken didn't blow him up. the bombs placed on the pycho drives by guile, chunli and charlie did. that's the problem...you're using in-game stuff as evidence. so tell me....did you know from the in-game that Sagat, Ken and Sakura were helping out Ryu? you didn't did you?
Yes, because all of those endings can be tied in. Think about that. the Guile and charlieblowing upthe Drive is conon, but thats not what killed Bison. Notice how he was desperate enough to try to infuse his power during a fight into Ryu during both Sakura's and Sagats endings? Because he had just absorbed ALL the power from the Drive after the trio blew it up. he was going to die... Not tomention in 3 separate official endings, Ryu blew Bison up, thats far more credible than a single ending depicting him being blown up by some bombs.
*Takes a bow* Thank you, thank you...
Originally posted by Sado22
...he fought Ryu first, pwned him, took over his conscious, then fought Ken and Sakura while sagat was spanking pscyho loser ryu, then took the shoryuken and retreated like a little girl, fought the dolls and lost, retreated like a little girl, then faced chunli, charlie and guile....and blew up after the psycho drives were blown off.
Sorry, no... the order was wrong, Yes, he did capture Ryu first, however, the other 3 appeared after the fight with Cammy and the dolls, Rose was there as well, and so was Vega. the base was blown up during the fight with ken Sagat and Sakura. Bison did retreat,but not because he was losing, but because Charlie and Guile where setting up the bombs...
After Charlie diedand the Drive was destroyed,Bison attepmtedto infuse Ryu because he saw itas his only chance to live. bur Ryu ressisted it and blew him away. after that Bison's remaining power found it'sway into Rose's unconcious body, at that time Guy found her.
Originally posted by Sado22
he didn't face them ALL at one time.
I know that, but back to back is pretty much the same thing.
Originally posted by Sado22
pick and choose what? i'm not the guy who takes his info off "ingame" stuff.
Notonlyingame stuff Sado, but since ingameis THE HIGHEST CANON, it overrides everything else, as per the rules of the Forum.
I like pizza
Yes they where, they where brainwashed, genetically enhanced through the Drive, and given metahuman physical capabilities... For example, Juni's Mach Slide was taken from Data on Akuma's Ashura Senku.
Then it requires further coroboration, because ingame evidence points WAY in the other direction
Yes, because all of those endings can be tied in. Think about that. the Guile and charlieblowing upthe Drive is conon, but thats not what killed Bison. Notice how he was desperate enough to try to infuse his power during a fight into Ryu during both Sakura's and Sagats endings? Because he had just absorbed ALL the power from the Drive after the trio blew it up. he was going to die... Not tomention in 3 separate official endings, Ryu blew Bison up, thats far more credible than a single ending depicting him being blown up by some bombs.
*Takes a bow* Thank you, thank you...
I know that, but back to back is pretty much the same thing
Notonlyingame stuff Sado, but since ingameis THE HIGHEST CANON, it overrides everything else, as per the rules of the Forum
if it was other games, I would agree. but not with Street fighter.
~Sado
Originally posted by Sado22
piffle paffle....fact of the matter is they aren't even midtiers in the SF universe. rugal, etc were taking on entire casts of even hightiers, mid and low tiers and still winning. and it was a lot mroe than just 12. no dice.
What? Dude, Bison wasn't JUST taking on the Dolls... Please correct yourself on that.
Originally posted by Sado22
not really...i can post the endings if you want...
I have the games,Iknow what it says, but obviously the actual ingame stuff contradicts this, O.Iori was a lot faster, did considerably more damage, had moreoptions and was considerably more powerful. the only thing that made him weaker was the fact that he's a nutter.
Originally posted by Sado22
disagree with the whole thing. i would say the "t" word right about now. besides, i don't know whats your problem with him anyway. the guy uses All about Capcom and SF Eternal as well, and along with that he has people who carried out interviews with the SF makers.
I am with him.
the above is NOT true.
Then why is it he and I draw different conclusions? plus,I want tosee transcripts of these interviews, I wantto see what questions where asked and what they where answered with.
Originally posted by Sado22
*realizes that the aplause is actually for Sado (and Tiamat) and falls off stage*
there...fixed it for you! 😄
You felloff the stage due to my trap door! *Whoo hoo!*
Originally posted by Sado22
you the know old saying: no point having the strength of 10 men if you're up against 11.
😮💨
*enthralls the crowd again...even bigger appluase*
*keeps Sado in the under stage trap door!*
However, my point still applies, Bison tookon more than half the cast of nearly 50 plus people. including hightiers such as Ryu, Ken, Sagat, Guile, Charlie and Chun Li.
Originally posted by Sado22
you see, old buddy, i gotta disagree with you on that one.
SF in-game is the most crappy, third rate, selfcontradictory load of bull ever....why do you think no one to date knows who won SF2. there are so many things even in SFA3 that don't add up....
for instance Charlie's ingame story is totally wrong. did you know that?
and i already pointed out ryu's "misleading" line against Akuma in SFA2. there are other cases aswell.
I know that, obviously only select few endings are canon, but then where the hell else are we supposed to get info from? my rectum?
Originally posted by Sado22
if it was other games, I would agree. but not with Street fighter.
See above.
Originally posted by Sado22
but atleast there have been solitary wins in the SNK universe.
there is no boss in SF who lost to anyone in a one-on-one match either man. not bison, not Gouki, not gill and not Oro or even Sagat (barring cheating of course).~Sado
Because they are actually bosses, not jobbers who are there to make the hero look cool by stomping the supporting cast single handley Then miraculously lose to one guy I.E. the main character
okay, emperor......what? when was the last time a Kof boss was solo'd by Kyo, K' or anyother hero. where did that come from emp?
Rugal: took on Japan team. was finally defeated by Kyo.
Omega Rugal: took on entire cast of KoF95 and was winning till he self-destructed.
Goenitz: lost to double team of Kyo and Iori (who alone is stronger than Goenitz).
Orochi Team: defeated by entire cast of KoF97
Orochi: defeated by Kyo and Iori. Iori neutralized him and Kyo finished him off.
Krizalid: defeated the hero team. Lost to Kyo (according to K"fanboy"Lantis anyway).
Zero: defeated by hero team. K' finished him off in the end.
Origianl zero: defeated by hero team. K' finished him off in the end.
Igniz: pwned by the entire cast of KoF97. K' finished him off in the end.
Mukai: defeated by Kyo, Iori and Chizuru.
Magaki: defeated by the above team again.
now WHERE in all this do you see a solo win?
as for Fatal Fury:
the only time someone was pwning the entire cast was yamazaki in FF3.........and terry was being pwned by him just like everyone else.
and you're trying to prove what exactly?
~Sado
Originally posted by Sado22okay, emperor......what? when was the last time a Kof boss was solo'd by Kyo, K' or anyother hero. where did that come from emp?
EDIT: The Hero team never beat Krizalid or Original Zero, they were all owned by said bosses before being owned by Kyo or K' Prime. Sure, Original Zero was poisoned by lin, but Krazalid has no excuse.
Originally posted by Sado22
the only time someone was pwning the entire cast was yamazaki in FF3.........and terry was being pwned by him just like everyone else.
and you're trying to prove what exactly?~Sado
I'm not trying to prove anything, I already showed that Terry has a jobber aura. After Zaki' owned the cast, what happened, Terry got up and owned him despite being weakened. Now, how does that make sense?
When Kyo single handled blew krizalid away by himself, End Topic
And Terry never beat Zaki. Not in FF3 and not anytime later either.
~Sado
Originally posted by Sado22
dont get carried away buddy. you're acting like remulus now by claiming you finished a debate by proving nothing. its not like you.
Not only did Kyo hit Krizalid with a blow that he didnt see coming, he did it after Krizalid was fighting the Hero team for the second time and was just hit by a huge blast by K' and Maxima.
and more importantly....Kyo didn't solo him. its not like Kyo took him in a one-on-one fight when they were both 100%. THAT was my point.
and lastly, KLantis is not the most reliable of people around. he's an obvious Kyo fanboy, going so far as to call Kyo the strongest when all proof points towards Iori as the strongest in the regular cast.
Originally posted by Sado22
And Terry never beat Zaki. Not in FF3 and not anytime later either.~Sado
I'm pretty sure he did.