Ryu vs Terry Bogard

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Originally posted by Sado22
i've always hated oro. he looks like a loser and his moves suck too. when i first read up tiamat i could barely believe my eyes.

I totally was like that too, dude.

What about his manly bear belly?

Originally posted by Sado22
i've always hated oro. he looks like a loser and his moves suck too. when i first read up tiamat i could barely believe my eyes.

sometimes we can't trust gameplay 😆

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
What about his manly bear belly?

you mean

or

darko, you're one disgusting prick 😘

I totally was like that too, dude.

i still have trouble accepting the fact that Capcom actually made akuma only stalemte a loser with crap moves, crap design and crap story. its seems like capcom's way of making a bad character more acceptable.
Capcom formula=make a crap character, but make him tough storywise so no one can complain.

its kinda like Fist of the Northstar later on in season2, when they made a character as crap as Kaioh (appearance wise a clone of the main badguy of the first season, Raoh) but made him beat Kenshiro so that no one would complain.

~Sado

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
you mean

or

Who cares, either way I would have the hot old man sex with that man.

Originally posted by Sado22
i still have trouble accepting the fact that Capcom actually made akuma only stalemte a loser with crap moves, crap design and crap story. its seems like capcom's way of making a bad character more acceptable.
Capcom formula=make a crap character, but make him tough storywise so no one can complain.

~Sado


That's exactly what I was thinking. He's such a terribly designed character, that was introduced in 3S - the only thing remarkable at all is that he's somehow instantly top tier as soon as he gets in.

Capcom can be kinda stupid sometimes.

I actually don't dislike Oro personally...

It's just his design that bothers me.

His design could use some work, yeah. I could agree with that.

I like the whole "tie my arm up so I don't accidentally beat you to death" thing. That's BADASS!!!!

Originally posted by Sado22
Geese clicked but he was the baddy and storywise he's dead...same reason why Bison aint there.
Mai clicked but she got replaced by new babes...same reason why shemale-li wasn't there in SF3 or sequel of that.
Kim got too old, and was replaced by his sons...same reason why Guile aint there in SF3.
Isn't Kim in all the latest KOF's though?

They named the series after Terry's punk @ss. All others were doomed from the start. FF is just 1 big ol' Terry wankfest. From the games to the movies. This is not news, it's common knowledge.

Originally posted by Sado22
Ryu gets to be there in SF3. Terry gets to be in SF3. why? cuz they are both the heroes. dah. on top of that while Terry paves the way for "new generation" i.e Rock, where is sakura though she's his disciple and has a big fanbase (for the love of god, i can never understand why though). why wans't sakura there? why does ken get his disciple only to kick the crap outta him in SF3 AND SF3:3rd strike? why does ryu shitstomp the new hero?
you're double standards are becoming more and more obvious brain. keep going at it and i'll keep showing you how full of it you are.
Stop being lame. Fvck Sakura. She's another weird thing from Japan, their obsession w/lil' school girls. I like her less than Yuri & I don't like Yuri. Ryu & Ken's torch was never a "I kick @ss & never gets my @ss kicked" torch like Terry's was. In SF anybody can get beat the fvck up. Even the hero. It's not a dickeating fest like FF was. Your double standards shit still don't carry any weight.
Originally posted by Sado22
as for jobbing, Bison is the real jobber and you know it. Geese aint no jobber. neither is krauser. especially given that they did enough to push the hero to his limits...........
Bullshit. It's still jobbing mane & you know it. I know how you feel though, as you already know, Geese used to be my fave boss(over Akuma, Bison, everybody). Then I unfortunately learned about him & realized no matter how cool his design or how megacool his moves were @the the end of the day he was just a guy who got bounced around from game to game to lose in embarrassing ways to whatever hero was around even though his moves were way better. 1 was a lame, destined to fail attempt to cash in on Ryu & Ken's popularity. The other was an original design, but he reminded me of a pizza boy or Marty Mcfly wannabe. I eventually came around to the sad, sad truth. Geese IS.....well WAS a consistent jobber & it's really fvcked up 'cuz he's one of the best and most original designs ever created by anybody. While we're talking about Geese, the 1st time when he jobbed to Terry and people thought he died, did he fall from the tower then too? Bison jobbed/fell victim to PIS in one game. Geese jobbed in every canon game he's been in. If you're the hero, you'll find a way to beat Geese & even if you don't the fool will gladly find a way for you like he did for ripoff. TRUTH. & this is something I wish I was wrong about 'cuz it's so fvcked up.
Originally posted by Sado22
have you ever even read the official story brain? 😐
Nah. You posted the wrong part by mistake.
Originally posted by Sado22
its simple: i told you to shut up and go look for shite yourself. you wanna prove me wrong, you quote the source. only you can't cuz no such bull exists. Ken and Ryu never had death matches nor were they looking for the kill against each other.
Fail. Didn't ask you that. Didn't say Ken & Ryu is a death match either. Are you trying to imply that either a match is to the death or friendly? foolfail! This ain't Mortal Kombat. A match can be neither friendly nor to the death & still be quite brutal. Asked if it was listed as a friendly match like Kyo/Terry was. &Wouldn't have even asked you about Kyo/Terry had you not given out the false information to begin with. Just asking a question. No need to act like you're on your period about it. An answer would suffice 🙂
Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
THE FACT IS he didn't won so the best explanation is he lost.
Sorry, but that's still an assumption. This issue is dead until it's shown who he lost to or show me that everybody who didn't win KOF got beat up & lost. Fail for the 1000th time.
Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
yes. this is only a matter of opinion. and I prefer a good win than a bad fight just like Ryu did to Sagat and Hugo.
You seem to prefer the hero always kicking the bad guy's ass. So much that you even falsely assumed(gotta stop w/that stuff, mane) that comicbooks also use that dumb shit that makes up the FF storyline. What exactly makes Ryu/Hugo a bad fight? 'Cuz it was an actual fight instead of a shitstomp? You got some weird standards there son.
Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
during the fight.
That's what I thought. 2 muthafukas on magic steroids that couldn't get the job done on 1muthafuka w/out any advantage b4 Geese stole the scrolls. More incompetent jobbers. 🙁
Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
if you want to, you can watch it by yourself. you can find onemanga.com to looking for riki-oh manga. do you have a proof Bison is a homage? as long as you don't have a proof about that, fail.
Nope. Actually you did it for me. Bison is a vg character, other dude is from a cartoon. It's the same situation for TFrue another vg homage to another cartoon guy named master Roshi. Succeed! Good job man. Going to look for that manga now. Waitaminute. This manga doesn't happen to be one where the good guy never loses is it?
Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
so it seems I am the first one to answer your question.
Nah. That's the same shit Oly posted years ago. A planner isn't the guy that designs ALL the characters & neither is the director. Fail. Find something that tells who designed/created ripoff & also tells who created Ryu. Many have tried to prove he wasn't a ripoff & all have failed. Don't give up or be ashamed tho. You might be the one who finally pulls it of & proves that he's not a ripoff, just a stupid, uncool rehash of a good, successful, popular idea
Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
while Geese run away while he was young and not too strong, Bison run away while he was in his strongest condition. Geese would beat him up and send Bison back to Thailand. fail.
You really think Geese could beat Bison?

Sorry, but that's still an assumption. This issue is dead until it's shown who he lost to or show me that everybody who didn't win KOF got beat up & lost. Fail for the 1000th time.

so, you think Terry never lose even though he isn't a champion?

You seem to prefer the hero always kicking the bad guy's ass. So much that you even falsely assumed(gotta stop w/that stuff, mane) that comicbooks also use that dumb shit that makes up the FF storyline. What exactly makes Ryu/Hugo a bad fight? 'Cuz it was an actual fight instead of a shitstomp? You got some weird standards there son.

everyone has their own opinion. I can also say Ken is weak because he invent shoryu reppa while he faced an unknown loser. Terry proves that he is a strong fighter because he defeated someone such as Geese, Krauser, etc. while Ryu... what? can't KO a pro wrestler which isn't a boss character with his strongest move, and cheapshot someone? that's too embarrassing as a fighter such as Ryu. and Terry is far too better than Ryu. speaking about standards, aren't you the one who has a weird standard here? you don't like to see someone win and prefer a stupid result of a fight such as Ryu.

That's what I thought. 2 muthafukas on magic steroids that couldn't get the job done on 1muthafuka w/out any advantage b4 Geese stole the scrolls. More incompetent jobbers.

while you call them a jobber, you forget about Gill. Gill is the real jobber and it seems you didn't hate him. so, double standard.

Nope. Actually you did it for me. Bison is a vg character, other dude is from a cartoon. It's the same situation for TFrue another vg homage to another cartoon guy named master Roshi. Succeed! Good job man. Going to look for that manga now. Waitaminute. This manga doesn't happen to be one where the good guy never loses is it?

cartoon or a video game, the fact is their design is almost same and even sometimes I called them "twin sister" 😆. and even worse, their designer are different people.

about Riki-oh. he has super power in his arm that he can do something like a hokuto no ken fighter and it looks like he almost never lost. and a warning to you : it's full of sadist scene.

Nah. That's the same shit Oly posted years ago. A planner isn't the guy that designs ALL the characters & neither is the director. Fail. Find something that tells who designed/created ripoff & also tells who created Ryu. Many have tried to prove he wasn't a ripoff & all have failed. Don't give up or be ashamed tho. You might be the one who finally pulls it of & proves that he's not a ripoff, just a stupid, uncool rehash of a good, successful, popular idea

here : http://hg101.classicgaming.gamespy.com/artoffighting/artoffighting.htm

and here some of the quote :

AoF's amazing graphics should come as no surprise, as the men in charge of AoF were Hiroshi Matsumoto (AoF 1&2) and Takashi Nishiyama (AoF 3), who together ran the design teams behind King of Fighters, the later Fatal Fury games, and the original Street Fighter.

you are already lost. FUUMA MUGENJIN!!!

You really think Geese could beat Bison?

read again my previous post. I don't need to say it twice.

Isn't Kim in all the latest KOF's though? They named the series after Terry's punk @ss. All others were doomed from the start. FF is just 1 big ol' Terry wankfest. From the games to the movies. This is not news, it's common knowledge.

that's cuz the timelines are different, foo.
and if you notice the profiles, the ages of the KoF people haven't changed since KoF96. Terry's still 24 years old by KoF2003 even though its been almost 10 years.
they didn't name the game after terry. Garou Densetsu means legend of the hungry wolves. and if you actually bothered playing the games, you'd can clearly see the intro of the game listing Terry, andy and Joe as legendary hungry wolves. that's why even their team in KoF is called the "hungry wolves". MOTW is talking about Terry and Rock as the torch gets passed to the new generation (unlike in SF where older generation is content shitstomping the new one). Mark of the wolves....and again, if youre memory wasn't such a b!tch, you'd remember that Rock Howard has two nicknames:
-young wolf cub
-Hungry Wolf DNA or something (KOFMI2)
so no MOTW aint based on Terry 🙂

Stop being lame. Fvck Sakura.

that don't solve anything, bro. I think Rock's a your cliched angsty teen dude who hates his dad. that's even worse than schoolgirl cliche. but i never used that card cuz its too subjective.
you're gonna have to do better than that next time i ask you why she isn't there in SF3. for now, fail.

Ryu & Ken's torch was never a "I kick @ss & never gets my @ss kicked" torch like Terry's was.

who kicked ken's ass in SF aside from Ryu? no one. fail.
on top of that, you go around calling terry a gloryhog but ignore the fact that ken and ryu both shitstomp their new generation and humiliate them while Terry bows outta the way for his: did it with kyo, did it with rock, did it with Alba. all three of them are younger than him (one of 'em was even trained by him). heck, ken shat on sean twice and promised a beat down in the future too. i have no problem with that but if you're gonna call terry a gloryhog then ken is a bigger one 😉
your rebuttal to that is they deserve to lose...which is stupid, cuz i can always turn around and tell you that Rock aint nowhere near worthy of even giving Joe head. but since that's subjective, i don't use that card on you. how about you actualy come up with a real rebuttal to that.
as long as you don't, you're a double standard ridden rant fest who doesn't know when to quit 😂

In SF anybody can get beat the fvck up.

Guile? Charlie? Ken? Chunli? Gen? Sagat?

Even the hero.

only against a god. and it never stopped him from laying down a oneshot shitstomping to the godly Bison of SFA3. fail.

It's not a dickeating fest like FF was. Your double standards shit still don't carry any weight.

it does...especially when i'm not the only person claiming you have 'em. your terry hate is just retarted. just say you hate him and no one's gonna say anything to you. but if you lay down reasons for hating him and loving ken but when all the same shite applies to ken as well, then people will have a problem. either you admit you've got double standards or you just come here and say that you hate terry and that your hatred outgrows any form of logic or reasoning. then its all cool. till then........go burn in hell ya double standard spawn of satan! 😠

Bullshit. It's still jobbing mane & you know it.

actually i know that it aint jobbing.

I unfortunately learned about him & realized no matter how cool his design or how megacool his moves were @the the end of the day he was just a guy who got bounced around from game to game to lose in embarrassing ways to whatever hero was around even though his moves were way better.

how is that better than pussying out to 13 girls and getting blown to bits, getting shitstomped by a oneshot and then getting pasted on the floor when you're supposed to be planning some big comeback.
Geese lost to toptier of his game after a tough bout. notice that it was a fight between two toptiers of the game. and he lost to someone whose been on the streets longer than Ryu (probably even longer than akuma) and fought every day of it. the fight was a tough one and Geese went down after a tough fight. that's impressive shite. age aint got nothing to do with it...if that were the case rock should never be the new champ and win MOTW but he did (Terry's a natural as well as i already pointed it out)
Bison got oneshotted by toptier despite being a godtier, ran away from 13 lowtiers despite being a godtier and couldn't even put down Sakura. shame. you know it. we all know it. even SF'ers are startin to admit it. admit it already.

1 was a lame, destined to fail attempt to cash in on Ryu & Ken's popularity. The other was an original design, but he reminded me of a pizza boy or Marty Mcfly wannabe.

that shite don't cut it. i could tell you that ken's a pussy for getting beaten up by his own wife and incapable of taking a punch to the balls from an 8 year old.

I eventually came around to the sad, sad truth. Geese IS.....well WAS a consistent jobber & it's really fvcked up 'cuz he's one of the best and most original designs ever created by anybody.

Geese didn't job. he was beaten in a tough fight. jobbing is when you're better than somebody but are forced to take a dive for the sake of plot. losing to a natural prodigy fighter whose been fighting and training for 10 years straight while on the most dangerous streets of the world.....is not jobbing. losing to a loser who has only been on the streets for 2 years and can't even beat down generic thugs is jobbing. fail.

While we're talking about Geese, the 1st time when he jobbed to Terry and people thought he died, did he fall from the tower then too?

no. Terry just beat him down. it was retconned in FFWA.

Bison jobbed/fell victim to PIS in one game.

he was oneshotted. then ran away from 13 lowtiers (RAN AWAY) only to get blown off by Charlie, Shemaleli and Guile. oh and he also got such a bad pwnage by Rose in SFA2 that she actually thought he was dead. and finally he resurrects and holds SF2 to get back at everyone where he either lost to guile or chunli (not out of question given how much of a pussy he is) and then got pasted on the floor by Gouki.
definitely not ONE game brain. fail.

Geese jobbed in every canon game he's been in.

that being AoF2, which wasn't jobbing since not only was he up against Ryo who was actually as old as he was (you don't think ken losing to ryu was jobbing now do you?). then FF1 where he lost to Terry whose as natural as anyone can get. and then in FFRB where he finally died...only after being knocked off the building by the triple geyser, not from any beating or whatever. notice that even in KOFAD they replay the same scenario where terry does a pg and rock loses his balance cuz of the force and falls down from the tower. an obvious semicanonical reference to the fight.
everything else we know about this fight is from Klantis.......which is his own guesswork as he's said himself several times.
two loses to toptiers for Geese as opposed to several losses to lowtiers and midtiers and even getting oneshotted by a person whose two tiers below him. THAT is jobbing. THAT is pussy.
*puts you in an ankle-lock*
admit it!! 😠

If you're the hero, you'll find a way to beat Geese & even if you don't the fool will gladly find a way for you like he did for ripoff.

😂
the man's stupid and overconfident. at least he didn't pick a fight with girls and still run away. Geese lost to a toptier...something which won't change no matter how much you rage on Ryo, the same ryo who made terry cough blood and smacked him around with a single punch 30 feet away. fail. what have the dolls done? what has rose done? what have guile/chunli done?
fail.

Didn't ask you that. Didn't say Ken & Ryu is a death match either. Are you trying to imply that either a match is to the death or friendly? foolfail! This ain't Mortal Kombat. [b]A match can be neither friendly nor to the death & still be quite brutal[/b[

what do you call a match between two really good friends brain who aren't trying to kill each other? hint: like in the examples i gave you. you can do it, man, just concentrate!

its times like these that i'll quote what Muhammed Ali said to Frazier in Thrilla in Manila "what you got in that nigga head?!" 😂

~Sado

Sounds to me that someone hates that Geese lost period...I am so happy it was Terry that kicked his ass as well as Ryo. 😎 .....though I like Geese

Speaking of FF being "The Terry show" and what not, FFRB2 was more centered around Rick Strowd and Xian Fei and in FFDM, more centered around Alfred. SO THERE(shows middle finger)

Hey PG, maybe you didn't notice my questions. How is Kyo beating Terry make Kyo a Hogan routiner? &How did Kyo & Iori shine more'n Terry in KOF:MI?

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
everyone has their own opinion. I can also say Ken is weak because he invent shoryu reppa while he faced an unknown loser. Terry proves that he is a strong fighter because he defeated someone such as Geese, Krauser, etc. while Ryu... what? can't KO a pro wrestler which isn't a boss character with his strongest move, and cheapshot someone? that's too embarrassing as a fighter such as Ryu. and Terry is far too better than Ryu. speaking about standards, aren't you the one who has a weird standard here? you don't like to see someone win and prefer a stupid result of a fight such as Ryu.
Nah. I'm like most people who dislike redundancy in storylines. A hero who always wins is boring. It's that simple. This is not rocket science. This unknown guy Ken fought was obviously quite talented. In SF land everybody can rumble. Not just the heroes. Already told that to Sado. Recycling?
Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
while you call them a jobber, you forget about Gill. Gill is the real jobber and it seems you didn't hate him. so, double standard.
Multifail. 1st, I don't hate the Jins nor have I ever implied that I hate them. It's Terry that I can't stand. Gill is a jobber in the wrestling sense of the word only. He LET Alex win. Gill's far from incompetent like the Jins turned out to be. No double standard @all. Fail.
Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
cartoon or a video game, the fact is their design is almost same and even sometimes I called them "twin sister" 😆. and even worse, their designer are different people.
Yep. & TFRue wasn't created by Akira Toriyama either. They aren't from the same form of media. Neither character is seen as a ripoff. They are considered homages.
Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
about Riki-oh. he has super power in his arm that he can do something like a hokuto no ken fighter and it looks like he almost never lost. and a warning to you : it's full of sadist scene.
I like to see people get fvcked up. As long as they ain't got any weird shit in them it's cool. WARNING 2 everybody: There's a movie called "Sailor & the 7balls". DO NOT SEE IT UNLESS YOU'RE INTO weird shit.
Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
and here some of the quote :
you are already lost. FUUMA MUGENJIN!!!
Nope. Sadly, all of this has been done b4. Design TEAMS. As in multiple cats. Any of them could have created Ryu. Another of them could have created ripoff. Me, Sadp, Olympian & Classic NES all went over this shit years ago. Oly couldn't find any actual proof so he threw a tantrum & eventually left. Find something w/somebody taking the credit for creating Ryu & work from there. This isn't a fail yet. Not a success either. What does that Fuuma stuff mean?
Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
read again my previous post. I don't need to say it twice.
True. I think there's a Bison V. Geese thread. I'd really like to see how you think Geese'd pull that off
Originally posted by Sado22
that's cuz the timelines are different, foo.
and if you notice the profiles, the ages of the KoF people haven't changed since KoF96. Terry's still 24 years old by KoF2003 even though its been almost 10 years.
they didn't name the game after terry. Garou Densetsu means legend of the hungry wolves. and if you actually bothered playing the games, you'd can clearly see the intro of the game listing Terry, andy and Joe as legendary hungry wolves. that's why even their team in KoF is called the "hungry wolves". MOTW is talking about Terry and Rock as the torch gets passed to the new generation (unlike in SF where older generation is content shitstomping the new one). Mark of the wolves....and again, if youre memory wasn't such a b!tch, you'd remember that Rock Howard has two nicknames:
-young wolf cub
-Hungry Wolf DNA or something (KOFMI2)
so no MOTW aint based on Terry 🙂
Ok. I'll take your word on the timeline shit....or I could go see for myself. I think I'll just take your word for it 🙂 You could have brought that "wolves" shit years ago when Oly basically said the same shit I did. Never heard that DNA one. I don't fuk w/MI. Fagcoon & the Meira's made me not buying it certain. I'll play it if somebody I know ever gets it. Heard the gameplay in those games sucks pretty bad too.
Originally posted by Sado22
that don't solve anything, bro. I think Rock's a your cliched angsty teen dude who hates his dad. that's even worse than schoolgirl cliche. but i never used that card cuz its too subjective.
you're gonna have to do better than that next time i ask you why she isn't there in SF3. for now, fail.
I honestly don't know. That's why I said that "ask capcom" stuff. You obviously want me to speculate. Here goes. She sucks & Capcom finally realized the Japanese jailbait pantyshots were'nt all that great. Fvck her & I'm glad she wasn't there. How's that?

Originally posted by Sado22
who kicked ken's ass in SF aside from Ryu? no one. fail.
Ryu's enough. That's more than a thousand times as much as Terry lost in FF. Fail. Didn't Akuma beat up Ken also? Ryu's lost in SF too so that means he's lost more'n a zillion times as much as the @sshole lost in FF. Fail twice. But somehow your crazy @ss will still see a double standard. 😂
Originally posted by Sado22
on top of that, you go around calling terry a gloryhog but ignore the fact that ken and ryu both shitstomp their new generation and humiliate them while Terry bows outta the way for his: did it with kyo, did it with rock, did it with Alba. all three of them are younger than him (one of 'em was even trained by him). heck, ken shat on sean twice and promised a beat down in the future too. i have no problem with that but if you're gonna call terry a gloryhog then ken is a bigger one 😉
your rebuttal to that is they deserve to lose...which is stupid, cuz i can always turn around and tell you that Rock aint nowhere near worthy of even giving Joe head. but since that's subjective, i don't use that card on you. how about you actualy come up with a real rebuttal to that.
as long as you don't, you're a double standard ridden rant fest who doesn't know when to quit 😂
Fail. In SF, those losses aren't humiliation, they are INSPIRATION. SFers can take a loss & keep going. You notice that neither Sean or Alex was like "Fuk it, I quit!!" I don't think I said they derserve to lose. They logically should though. I might possibly have said it about Alex though. Don't like him all that much. For the last time. Kyo was destined to surpass Terry. Terry didn't move outta the way. He was MOVED outta the way cuz they knew they'd created something awesome w/Kyo. Easy to replace Terry. Kyo>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Terry. Kyo was sadly moved outta the way for GayAlba, not Terry & that's 'cuz of dumb@ss Fagcoon being in charge. Fail on him
Originally posted by Sado22
Guile? Charlie? Ken? Chunli? Gen? Sagat?
Don't know about most of their fights. A lot of mystery around some of them. Especially Chun Li & Guile. You got any data on their fights?

Originally posted by Sado22
only against a god. and it never stopped him from laying down a oneshot shitstomping to the godly Bison of SFA3. fail.

it does...especially when i'm not the only person claiming you have 'em. your terry hate is just retarted. just say you hate him and no one's gonna say anything to you. but if you lay down reasons for hating him and loving ken but when all the same shite applies to ken as well, then people will have a problem. either you admit you've got double standards or you just come here and say that you hate terry and that your hatred outgrows any form of logic or reasoning. then its all cool. till then........go burn in hell ya double standard spawn of satan! 😠

So far there are 2 people who said I have d.standards. You & Kriz. Kriz seems to be as insane as you are so I think I'll reconsider when somebody sane/credible says I have them 🙂

Terry = Ken? Please don't ever imply that shit again. Terry's a monotonous, redundant piece of shit that they always made look superior to everybody in FF. He's nothing like Ken. Let's elaborate on why.

I. You talk of Terry's zillion fights on the street & then you turn around & call his nut @ss a natural. WTFFail. Ken on the other hand is a natural & YOU talk of how much his exp, Kyo's exp & damn near everybody exp pales in comparison to Terry. Either what you're saying is bullshit or Terry ain't a natural. Not gonna have it both ways

II. Terry's supposed to be this guy who can take all types of punishment & can't be stopped

@the same time further in your whiny post you say

Originally posted by Sado22
i could tell you that ken's a pussy for getting beaten up by his own wife and incapable of taking a punch to the balls from an 8 year old.
Which is a stupid thing to say because a)what the fvck is Ken supposed to do, punch his wife in the face? Shoryureppa? b)Ken didn't pass out from the nutshot it just hurt a lot, as nutshots should. That was just childish & lame Sado & you know it.

III. Guy's in SF who have shown that Ken's not some unbeatable borefest like Terry = 2. Gouki & Ryu.

Guy's in FF who've shown that Terry's not some unbeatable borefest = 0. Fvcking Zero. None of those losers in FF could ever beat his lame "dickeaten worse than any vg character I can think of" @ss.

Yet I have a double standard 'cuz I hate Terry & think Ken's cool? They are the same? 😂 Get some help Sado. My hatred for the lamester isn't retarded, but it seems your asinine reasons for thinking I have double standards are. Oh yeah..........FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Sado22
actually i know that it aint jobbing.
Yeah it is. Bison could be a big time jobber, but that won't mean that Geese isn't one. He is, and in multiple games. For that oneshot Bison shit, send me a link & tell me where that part starts @ please.
Originally posted by Sado22
no. Terry just beat him down. it was retconned in FFWA.
Oh I know that. I'm asking if they originally had him fall out the tower the 1st time he lost to Terry
Originally posted by Sado22
that being AoF2, which wasn't jobbing since not only was he up against Ryo who was actually as old as he was (you don't think ken losing to ryu was jobbing now do you?). then FF1 where he lost to Terry whose as natural as anyone can get. and then in FFRB where he finally died...only after being knocked off the building by the triple geyser, not from any beating or whatever. notice that even in KOFAD they replay the same scenario where terry does a pg and rock loses his balance cuz of the force and falls down from the tower. an obvious semicanonical reference to the fight.
everything else we know about this fight is from Klantis.......which is his own guesswork as he's said himself several times.
two loses to toptiers for Geese as opposed to several losses to lowtiers and midtiers and even getting oneshotted by a person whose two tiers below him. THAT is jobbing. THAT is pussy.
*puts you in an ankle-lock*
admit it!! 😠
😂
the man's stupid and overconfident.
Yep. & ripoff being as old as Geese means less than nothing. Geese was owning him('cuz he's way better than the "embarrassment to the style"😉 & then gave away the W w/sheer stupidity. That's hardcore jobbing dude. No point in denying it. It's the truth & it hurts me way more than it hurts you 😂
Originally posted by Sado22
what do you call a match between two really good friends brain who aren't trying to kill each other? hint: like in the examples i gave you. you can do it, man, just concentrate!
Don't mean they ain't grueling matches where they try to KO each other. For the last time, do you have anything from any credible source saying they were friendly matches? You found it for AssholeTerry/CoolKyo. Finding one for Ken/Ryu should be just as easy. Then your point about them being the same type of matches will be valid. Won't that be awesome?
Originally posted by Sado22
its times like these that i'll quote what Muhammed Ali said to Frazier in Thrilla in Manila "what you got in that nigga head?!" 😂

~Sado

😐 It was cool when Ali said it tho.

Ok. I'll take your word on the timeline shit....or I could go see for myself. I think I'll just take your word for it

there are three timelines in SNK world:
AoF-FF timeline which is the original timeline. thats the one where Ryo is 15 years older than Terry and is the one that MOTW follows.
FF-KoF timeline, which is the one used for KoFs. in this one, Terry and Geese hasn't died from the fall from the tower and is stil waiting for their final fight to take place. Terry has however is taking care of Rock.
KoFMI timeline, is the one where Terry and Rock's age gap isn't too much (terry 24 and Rock 17). Geese is dead in this one.

You could have brought that "wolves" shit years ago when Oly basically said the same shit I did. Never heard that DNA one. I don't fuk w/MI. Fagcoon & the Meira's made me not buying it certain. I'll play it if somebody I know ever gets it. Heard the gameplay in those games sucks pretty bad too.

MI sucked but MI2 and MIRA are pretty good. its all fast paced action...kinda like MVC2, only more balanced. and at least the alternate costumes for the girls makes it worth it 😈

I honestly don't know. That's why I said that "ask capcom" stuff. You obviously want me to speculate. Here goes. She sucks & Capcom finally realized the Japanese jailbait pantyshots were'nt all that great. Fvck her & I'm glad she wasn't there. How's that?

i agree 😄
but still, she is his prodigy but she aint around is the point. Sean is ken's prodigy but he just gets shitstomped in the tourny and even after the tourny....and is promised another one by ken 😂. thats why i said that "we shitstomp the new ones" IS the motto of the SF world. unlike FF. heck, FF3 poster has Terry soaking punches from Franco Bash, FFRB2 practically has a bleeding terry having his cap stepped on by Rick Strowd and FFRBS's intro begins and ends with Terry getting a shitstomp from Krauser. lots of people get to shine, man.

Ryu's enough. That's more than a thousand times as much as Terry lost in FF. Fail.

it took ken 10 years to lose though. Last i recall, you still loved ken all the way before SF33strike...and that would be ken NEVER losing to anyone, shitstomping little girls and hobbos and shitting on the new generation. never stopped you from loving him and raging on Bogard....even though Bogard lost to kyo, has OBVIOUSLY lost in the kofs and bowed outta the way for the new heroes in his own game....even going so far as to make the new guys look good by being shitstomped on the poster and intros. heck, FFRB2 intro doesn't even have terry in it.
something neither ken or ryu ever did.

Didn't Akuma beat up Ken also?

nope. ken was just around to see Gouken get beaten to death.

Ryu's lost in SF too so that means he's lost more'n a zillion times as much as the @sshole lost in FF.

he won SF1, SF2 is a blankslate, SF3 he lost in the semis to a god. as opposed to Terry who lost in all KoF's from KoF94 onwards. it don't take a rocket scientist to figure that much out man. he also aint poster boy for all covers, isn't shitstomping new heroes and actually has a personality.

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Originally posted by Sado22
on top of that, you go around calling terry a gloryhog but ignore the fact that ken and ryu both shitstomp their new generation and humiliate them while Terry bows outta the way for his: did it with kyo, did it with rock, did it with Alba. all three of them are younger than him (one of 'em was even trained by him). heck, ken shat on sean twice and promised a beat down in the future too. i have no problem with that but if you're gonna call terry a gloryhog then ken is a bigger one
your rebuttal to that is they deserve to lose...which is stupid, cuz i can always turn around and tell you that Rock aint nowhere near worthy of even giving Joe head. but since that's subjective, i don't use that card on you. how about you actualy come up with a real rebuttal to that.
as long as you don't, you're a double standard ridden rant fest who doesn't know when to quit.

oh and for the record, Klantis suggested that Krauser actually beat Terry in FFRB2. I can find the quote for you if you want.

Fail. In SF, those losses aren't humiliation, they are INSPIRATION.

so ken inspired sean by shitstomping him, only to shitstomp him all over again and promise another one in the future. on top of that ryu gets to shitstomp Sean with one move repeatedly. that's inspiration? okay, Terry inspired Geese to come after him. too bad geese lost his balance and fell off the tower.......something sean, alex and others don't have the luxury to say.
fail.

For the last time. Kyo was destined to surpass Terry. Terry didn't move outta the way. He was MOVED outta the way cuz they knew they'd created something awesome w/Kyo. Easy to replace Terry.

for all your emoness, that's still not a valid rebuttal, bro.
fail 🙁

Kyo was sadly moved outta the way for GayAlba, not Terry & that's 'cuz of dumb@ss Fagcoon being in charge. Fail on him

actually, Terry's the one who moved outta the way. South Town is HIS hometown and he's the hero of it. Alba comes up and becomes the new champ in his town and gets to become the NEW godfather of it too (taking Geese's place) 🙁

Don't know about most of their fights. A lot of mystery around some of them. Especially Chun Li & Guile. You got any data on their fights?

Guile never lost to anyone so far...and most likely won SF2 too.
Chunli only lost to Bison in SFA2.
Charlie is unbeaten
Sagat only has two losses. one to emo ryu's cheapness and one to Adon but only because he wasn't himself and still managed to put him in the hospital. oh and he lost to dan....but only cuz he dived on purpose 😱
Gen never lost. he only had a stalemate against akuma, but he considered it a loss in ways cuz akuma spared him (gen started coughing up blood so akuma just left). he even got to beat gouki in SFA3 (probably according to Tiamat)
Ken never lost all the way until SF33rdstrike against Ryu.

. You talk of Terry's zillion fights on the street & then you turn around & call his nut @ss a natural. WTFFail. Ken on the other hand is a natural & YOU talk of how much his exp, Kyo's exp & damn near everybody exp pales in comparison to Terry. Either what you're saying is bullshit or Terry ain't a natural. Not gonna have it both ways

getting into brawls and winning without EVER training only shows that he's a natural. what the f--k you smoking!? 😠 at least ken trains in his home, trains losers (who he intends to crush later so he can look good) and even has started training his son. Ken actively trains, somethign that's not only a known fact but also shown in official arts. Terry doesn't ever train, is never shown to and only brawls on the streets and fights in tournies and still wins them. Terry's a natural, bro. you know it 😄
wtffail.

II. Terry's supposed to be this guy who can take all types of punishment & can't be stopped

he can take a beating, which is a famous thing about him. what's wrong with that? and its not like he goes around winning fights based on just that. he's officially famous for having blinding speed too. heck, shining knuckle (which "Snot" Howard stole) is a blur. and again, the official description was just that "blinding speed". notice shining knuckle, buster wolf and rising heat. the guy moves like a blur.
you're making it sound like all he's got is a chin. which is bull. he can saok it and dish it out.......not to mention that's he's still lost. unlike Ken.

Which is a stupid thing to say because a)what the fvck is Ken supposed to do, punch his wife in the face? Shoryureppa? b)Ken didn't pass out from the nutshot it just hurt a lot, as nutshots should. That was just childish & lame Sado & you know it.

he could always slap her back...or spank her😉
as for nutshots, it was from an 8 yo kid. i got hit on the balls by a baseball bat....didn't start selling it the way ken was.
and notice my choice of words: it was obviously a joke.

III. Guy's in SF who have shown that Ken's not some unbeatable borefest like Terry = 2. Gouki & Ryu.

it took terry 2 years to pass on the torch to somebody else=kyo and he lost too. it took ken 10 years to lose and that too to ryu.
fail.

Yeah it is. Bison could be a big time jobber, but that won't mean that Geese isn't one. He is, and in multiple games. For that oneshot Bison shit, send me a link & tell me where that part starts @ please.

i posted it in this thread, didn't I? 😕

Oh I know that. I'm asking if they originally had him fall out the tower the 1st time he lost to Terry

yeah that was how it was. terry jump kicked him and he fell out of the window.

Yep. & ripoff being as old as Geese means less than nothing. Geese was owning him('cuz he's way better than the "embarrassment to the style"😉 & then gave away the W w/sheer stupidity. That's hardcore jobbing dude. No point in denying it. It's the truth & it hurts me way more than it hurts you

never said it wasn't stupid. but it was in character..Geese is the overconfident type. and again, Geese and Ryo were toptiers. Bison running away from pussies and jobbing to a oneshot is just way worse....especially when HE picked the fight himself. at least, geese was schooling ryo until he went all "blonde". Bison just embarrased himself. plain and simple. while with Geese you'd simply say, "you idiot! you ****ing had that ****er but you threw it away!" (notice that this same stuff has happened several times in all forms of MA tournaments. classic example: Lennox lewis vs rahman, stready lead, gives cocky smile, drops guard, left hook, rahman new champ).

to be continued.....

Originally posted by Sado22
nope. ken was just around to see Gouken get beaten to death.

Really?

I always remembered a passage something like Ken arriving just in time to see Gouken die, then something about Gouki "easily" defeating Ken then running away.

@Dark C:
tiamat says:

Ken has most likely actually fought Gouki before or something. In SF3 Second Impact when you fight Shin Gouki with Ken, Ken remarks, "You're still alive!?" then Gouki asks Ken to show him that burning fist "once more". But... the only time that Ken really could possibly have run into Gouki was back when he was witnessing Gouki kill his master, since there aren't any other known storyline times that the two would have fought. Most likely, Ken tried to interupt the battle to save his master or so (which would be why Ken is still alive, since Gouki would possibly spare him if it wasn't an actual challenge and just Ken recklessly trying to save someone else).

its up in the air really. for one, anything that happened before SF1 is just guesswork mainly. Tiamat said that ken and ojou-chan did definitely watch gouki kill gouken. on top of that, fanlore had ryu and ken watching the fight and then trying to fight gouki only to get mauled. but that didn't happen. only ken was there.

note: it unlikely that ken actually did the shoryuken to akuma, especially considering that ken only advanced the shoryuken to that level MUCH later on. on top of that, ken did do a "flaming shoryuken" during SF4 intro didn't he? 😕

one of the biggest problem with SF is the fanlores really. i mean stuff like akuma being ryu's dad, ryu saving ken from falling from a cliff, guile and charlie being best friends, zangief and haggar being intense rivals, that zangief invented the pileriver to pissoff haggar etc. all of these are just fanlores that somehow always creep into canon infos all the time. ken gave ryu the red bandana, akuma aint ryu's father, ryu never saved ken from no cliff falls, charlie and guile barely knew eachother (which makes guile's highly personal fight with bison rather lame), haggar and zangief never personally met, and zangief was practically flattered (and surprised) when he found out that haggar mimicks his spinning clothesline move. its stuff like this that makes me go all "hats off" to tiamat....the man went through all those bs lores and tore them apart.
we should have a Tiamat respect thread 😄

@brain:
dude, this is the full excerp regarding SFA3. as you see Bison never faced loads of people before fighting ryu..not that it should matter since he's got infinite supply of power.

Street Fighter Zero 3 first starts off with Vega tracking down Ryu and confronting him, then tried to brainwash Ryu into giving into psycho power. Ryu has an inner conflict with himself on whether to give in, similar to his conflict to give into satsui no hadou. At any rate, he does give in, though it's important to note that brainwashed psycho power Ryu is not the same as Satsui no Hadou Ryu.

Don't mean they ain't grueling matches where they try to KO each other. For the last time, do you have anything from any credible source saying they were friendly matches? You found it for AssholeTerry/CoolKyo. Finding one for Ken/Ryu should be just as easy. Then your point about them being the same type of matches will be valid. Won't that be awesome?

god alone knows why i'm looking through that bullshit again for you dumbass 😠
direct from tiamat:
Ryu thanked Ken afterwards, telling Ken that the experience made Ryu realize a new awareness, and that martial arts are more vast than he could have ever dreamed. Ken and Ryu's friendly rivalry continues

and
Ryu lost to Oro in Second Impact, he travels to America. Of course, being Ryu, he uses his loss to motivate him to become even stronger, after seeing what Oro is capable of, but for the time being, he had more pressing matters. He seeks out Ken so that they have another match. He travels across the country (starting in Oakland) and finally meets Ken in NY. Ken is probably in NY to enter the US Martial Arts championship, which he wins [Ken's SF3TS ending]. Ryu wins his match with Ken, but also has a fight with Alex while he was in NY.

and finally:
Ryu vs Ken - Ryu challenges Ken again. For 'fun', of course. This battle officially happened and Ryu officially won it.

oh and regarding to the fact that terry is more natural than ken:

Ken continued to train, readying himself for the next time he would get to fight with Ryu, remarking to himself that those are the greatest times of his life

It was cool when Ali said it tho.

sorry, bro, if that felt like a shot to the nuts. but i didn't mean it in the racist way it was a joke.
no offense intended 🙁

~Sado

Ryu won the SF2?

RYU WON STREET FIGHTER2?

this is direct from tiamat's story of SF2:

Besides the personal invitation thing and Vega's new body, there is very very little information given out by Capcom about what officially happened during Street Fighter 2. The main confirmed info is that Gouki, who wasn't registered and signed into the tournament, jumped in and killed Vega at the end using the shungokusatsu, and Ryu found Vega's smoldering remains afterwards. Capcom hasn't even stated whether this happened before the match of whoever was fighting Vega at the time or after.

strangely despite this, Tiamat still insists that SF2 no one knows who won it. then again, he also insists that SF2animated movie aint the inspiration for SFA3 in many ways...even though its bloody obvious.

I'm looking forward to see what you guys have to see.

~Sado