I'll admit to having done it. Frankly I admit to doing it with other characters when they seemed overrated to me, Superboy Prime, Hulk, Wolverine, Iron Man. I didn't expect a rash of them though.Fact of the matter is I like Storm as a character (although tbh I like her less now than I did since joining the forum), but I don't see why anyone needs her to beat Sersi or Bloodties Exodus, it doesn't lessen the character in any way to lose to more powerful characters or characters with cheap but instakills.
Then I hope people would stop it. It just makes this forum a little less Storm friendly for me now. I joined this forum because I thought that there are good debates here, then some people (I don't wanna mention names) pop up and stoop down to some fanboys level and make it so annoying for other fans. I love Storm, but this forum is murdering the sh*t out of her. Just ignore the fanboys. They'll always be there for any character.
Wow oh wow. Storm being able to split evenly with Sersi? Not trying to knock on Storm here, but it is possible for her to be an enjoyable character without being able to win against opponents obviously out of her league, and arguments do not need to be made for victories against such opponents. Next thing we know, Wolverine is gonna be placed in a fight with Thanos. Oh damn, that already happened. 😘
Originally posted by inamilist
This is an honest to go real question, I'm not trying to provoke anything, but:What about Storm vs Crystal? afaik they both wield the elements, and its not unheard of for a mutant to be as strong as an inhuman.
Honestly, I just don't know where to put them power wise, any help I would appreciate
Storm is much stronger than Crystal. She can affect a much greater volume and she can generate much stronger elemental assaults.
Originally posted by Brian Oswald
I know Storm can make herself resistant to probing, but prove to me that she can make herself totally immune to TP detection. Sersi just scanning the area and sensing her 😐
The way it works, if one has the mental dicipline to hold onto their thoughts, the telepthas can't pick up on it or your psi-patterns. Psylocke, enhanced by Cerebro, was unable to locate Storm when probing for her or make any sort of contact with Storm. Storm blocked her out. Nightcrawler, who has substantially less mental defenses/willpower than Ororo, was able to avoid detection from Stryfe.
Originally posted by leonidas
why exactly would the fight be over when the winds touch her . . .? you seem to be under the impression that somehow the winds are an instant kill.and cyke's optic blasts move at the speed of light . . .? 😑
The fight would be over when the winds touch her because Sersi has no defense against them. When those winds hit, they will continue to hit and spin Sersi around at extreme velocities (which means she can concentrate/recover to bring her powers to bear against Storm) and slam her against everything around (mountainsides, the ground, trees, etc) and pummel her with objects like boulders travelling at high velocity until Sersi is unconscious.
In regards to the Crystal/Sersi thing, Crystal's winds are a gentle breeze compared to what Storm dishes out on many occassions. Crystal's elemental powers are not strong enough to hurt Sersi at all, but that is no argument against Storm, a much more powerful character.
In regards to X-Men issue 60 with Storm and Cyclops, Candra was not controlling his optic blasts. She was mind controlling him. She's a psi. She merely "told" him to attack Storm. So his skills and all were still at his disposal. He merely turned them against Storm. They would not have been diminished.
Originally posted by Rutog98
The fight would be over when the winds touch her because Sersi has no defense against them. When those winds hit, they will continue to hit and spin Sersi around at extreme velocities (which means she can concentrate/recover to bring her powers to bear against Storm) and slam her against everything around (mountainsides, the ground, trees, etc) and pummel her with objects like boulders travelling at high velocity until Sersi is unconscious.In regards to the Crystal/Sersi thing, Crystal's winds are a gentle breeze compared to what Storm dishes out on many occassions. Crystal's elemental powers are not strong enough to hurt Sersi at all, but that is no argument against Storm, a much more powerful character.
In regards to X-Men issue 60 with Storm and Cyclops, Candra was not controlling his optic blasts. She was mind controlling him. She's a psi. She merely "told" him to attack Storm. So his skills and all were still at his disposal. He merely turned them against Storm. They would not have been diminished.
you are 🙁 soul winds are not going to affect sersi at all since eternals can teleport or teleport others anywhere. Get it through your child like mind Sersi is so far above storm it's not even funny, you are making a fool of yourself. Sersi changes storm into jello miles away, or she teleports storm into outerspace.
Originally posted by Rutog98
Okay. I think everyone can read this thread for themselves and come to their own conclusions. I don't think there is anything left to say. We're going to have to agree to disagree.
Here's my conclusion.
Sersi picks up a piece of concrete and KTFOes her.
or she utilizes any other way that she could easily destroy her. Sersi wins.
Originally posted by Rutog98
In regards to X-Men issue 60 with Storm and Cyclops, Candra was not controlling his optic blasts. She was mind controlling him. She's a psi. She merely "told" him to attack Storm. So his skills and all were still at his disposal. He merely turned them against Storm. They would not have been diminished.
No one said she was manipulating the optic blasts themselves, she was controlling his mind and therefore controlling his actions(aim) and power. She was using him as her mind puppet and he attacked Storm like the mindless puppet he was meant to be...he did not have any control of his actions it was all down to Candra. She was the one controlling him and therefore controlling where and how he aimed hence the reason why his attack on Storm seemed as if an amateur was using his power. His acquired skill in marksmanship as you put it was not being utilized because his mind was not consciously in charge of his body at that period in time.
So yes she did tell him to attack Storm, but she had to mentally control his body in order to do so. Hence the mind control.
In any event the attack itself does not occur at light speed as his power itself is governed by thought and the speed at which his servos operates which is considerably slower then the speed of light. Add Candra's inexperience with Scotts powers and her bad marksmanship and you to may be able to dodge his optic blasts.
Here are the scans for reference sake...see he's not even aware of what happened and Candra's mind is the only one present when she attacks Storm. Therefore there's she's only utilizing his body as a vessel. Storm even used the word "possessed" to describe the situation further showing that it was Candra controlling Scotts body.
Originally posted by leonidas
nice ec. 👆🙂
i think the decision is simple -- if you believe strong winds can stop sersi from forming a thought/teleporting/becoming immaterial, then, i guess you think storm may have a chance.
otherwise . . .
I still believe that it was a mental possession. Candra is no Shadow King. Regardless, whichever it was, she would have had access to Scott's memories and skills and all and those blasts still moved at the speed of light.
To get to your other points: Storm has used her winds to keep people from concentrating to use their power. This has happened with Jean, Rogue and Dazzler.
Teleporting and becoming immaterial would only be ways for Sersi to try and tie the fight (Storm has been able to hurt immaterial characters before). The root problem remains that Sersi has no way of getting to Storm through the blizzard.
Originally posted by Rutog98
I still believe that it was a mental possession. Candra is no Shadow King. Regardless, whichever it was, she would have had access to Scott's memories and skills and all and those blasts still moved at the speed of light.To get to your other points: Storm has used her winds to keep people from concentrating to use their power. This has happened with Jean, Rogue and Dazzler.
Teleporting and becoming immaterial would only be ways for Sersi to try and tie the fight (Storm has been able to hurt immaterial characters before). The root problem remains that Sersi has no way of getting to Storm through the blizzard.
🤨 ^ are you smoking. That's jean,rogue and dazzler, Sersi is over 5000 years old please if that's all you can come up with is storm winds are going to affect Sersi you need to burned all your comics. Sersi will change Storm into pumpkin pie miles away, or disintegrate her a$$ winds don't mean sh** when you are turned into a pumpkin patch.
