Sersi vs Storm

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Strom has controlled matter on a subatomic level--once she created a bathing suit out of nothing, metal ringlette on it an all.

Educate me on Sersi.

Does her transmutation power work by encantation, telekenetically, shooting power blast at people??? Is she re-arranging the atomic structure??

Could she for instance be able to transmutate storm if storm saturates herself(her body, her atoms) with enough electric/electromagnetic energy???

Could that cause intereference??

i've no explanation for the swimsuit change . . . i don't call PIS often, but, if it's never happened before or since . . . 😬 crystal has done almost the exact same thing in the past, but i don't think anyone is gonna say she has atomic control of matter . . .

in any event, even ALLOWING for that demonstration, it makes no difference -- her atomic control would be less than meaningless in this battle.

sersi's powers -- like the powers of all eternals -- are cosmic in origin. she simply used her 1000s of years of life to focus on her transmuting abilities. hence, she is the greatest among them in that area -- by far. there is no 'blast' required and i don't see how any kind of additional charge could interfere with her ability to transmute storm. she doesn't NEED to simply transmute -- she has massive energy projection as well. transmutation is simply the easiest for her. she could also simply erect a force field to protect her from whatever storm can throw at her, and even if she DOES somehow lose sight of storm her field would protect her from harm while she searched. i also don't really get how storm would prevent sersi from finding her -- she isn't trying to read storm's mind or take control -- she's simply trying to locate her. sersi should be able to sense any resistance and that alone should be enough to tell sersi where storm is.

Sersi can make forcefields? >.>

Seriously tho... I think people are starting to inflate Sersi's character. I mean... I know she transmutes matter, but she ain't no Silver Surfer.

For that matter, Storm ain't no Sersi either...

Well she can project energy. If she can maintain that for an extended period of time then she can create a force field.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Sersi can make forcefields? >.>

Seriously tho... I think people are starting to inflate Sersi's character. I mean... I know she transmutes matter, but she ain't no Silver Surfer.

For that matter, Storm ain't no Sersi either...

never claimed she was. 🙂 the scale of ss's power AND his durability are far and away beyond sersi's.

she IS basically a low level ss though, (who has shown a much greater ability to transmute organic matter than ss has), AND is also a very powerful telekinetic.

and that is more than enough to take out storm.

^With her being an eternal, I would say she is not outclassed by that much in the durability department, We all know what eternals can take. Not to say that SS is not more durable, though, as he has some great feats in that department.

Originally posted by Ouallada
^With her being an eternal, I would say she is not outclassed by that much in the durability department, We all know what eternals can take. Not to say that SS is not more durable, though, as he has some great feats in that department.

Sersi was reduced to component molecules/atoms and came back becasue she willed it. I'd say she has near SS durability but not SS offense.

I read on wikipedia that Seris has trouble with sub-atomic matter, that's why I brouth up the Electrical/electromagnetic saturation with regards to storm.

Could it be written that storm could somehow hold her atomic structure together by way of the forces inside her and the forces she has munipulated and channeled through her body.

The fight starts, Sersi goes to transmutate storm, instantly a lightning bolt shoots out of the sky and engrosses storm and the area in an electromagnetic feild impeding Sersi from matter munipution because of all the electromagnetic energy and electron intereference.

Atoms are held together by electromagnetic feilds.

That's what I think she did to make that bathingsuit-- She rearranged some of the electrons in the air thus munipulating the atoms and rearanging them to make a detailed bathing suit. It wasn't unstable molecules because she was but-booty naked.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Sersi was reduced to component molecules/atoms and came back becasue she willed it. I'd say she has near SS durability but not SS offense.

I completely agree with this. That was the point of my previous post.

Originally posted by 2damnloud

Could it be written that storm could somehow hold her atomic structure together by way of the forces inside her and the forces she has munipulated and channeled through her body.

The fight starts, Sersi goes to transmutate storm, instantly a lightning bolt shoots out of the sky and engrosses storm and the area in an electromagnetic feild impeding Sersi from matter munipution because of all the electromagnetic energy and electron intereference.

I don't think EM disrupts Sersi's powers but I'm not an expert.

Originally posted by 2damnloud

Atoms are held together by electromagnetic feilds.

RLY I thought it was the strong and weak nuclear forces (nuclear force>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>EM)

Molecules are held together by electromagnetism

Originally posted by 2damnloud

That's what I think she did to make that bathingsuit-- She rearranged some of the electrons in the air thus munipulating the atoms and rearanging them to make a detailed bathing suit. It wasn't unstable molecules because she was but-booty naked.

the bathing suit is about as vaild as the "table incident" for Apoc

Originally posted by Ouallada
I completely agree with this. That was the point of my previous post.

I just wanted to give an example.

My bad, that's what I meant😖mart:

Originally posted by 2damnloud
My bad, that's what I meant😖mart:

well except cosmics I don't think anyone in Marvel or DC can tear apart atoms w/o magic or tech

em holds atoms and molecules together. strong holds protons together in the nucleus. sersi can and has shown the ability to control energy at the subatomic level, so even if storm can somehow try and counter sersi's transmutation powers with an energy burst, i doubt it would matter. sersi's control is simply>storm's.

in any event, there has never been any evidence that energy interferes in any way with sersi's powers. even allowing for the chance that it somehow DID interfere, it would only be a momentary solution for storm -- i see no logical way to say she could continually resist transmutation or simply a high energy barrage.

as far as the winds effectiveness -- here is sersi (who flies psionically) slipping into then OUT of the grip of a BLACK HOLE to fetch crystal . . .

black hole forces just slightly>winds storm can create. 😮

as regards her durability -- she has no where near the feats ss has -- she also always wears a suit in space. to KILL her may prove as difficult as it would be to kill ss. to ko her is no feats, no where NEAR as difficult. difficult compared to most, but NOT compared to ss.

Originally posted by leonidas
she also always wears a suit in space

EM is responsable for kinetic movement and other transfers of energy at a sub atomic level 😉

anyhoo............

Storm wins 😖hifty:

Originally posted by inamilist
Storm wins 😖hifty:

Yeah.

Electricity in her brain and everything.

Originally posted by leonidas

as regards her durability -- she has no where near the feats ss has -- she also always wears a suit in space. to KILL her may prove as difficult as it would be to kill ss. to ko her is no feats, no where NEAR as difficult. difficult compared to most, but NOT compared to ss.

I meant killability (Ya happy?)

besides how can you KO a person who can reform when her body has been destroyed?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I meant killability (Ya happy?)

besides how can you KO a person who can reform when her body has been destroyed?

good catch, x. 😉

sym. chaos: i'm actually pretty ambivalent about what you were trying to say. it's perfectly fine by me if it's your opinion that their respective durability is close. the point is way off topic. i could show a couple scans of her being ko'd by things that would . . . not do much to ss. but it took a lot for me to drag my ass to my books and post the ones i did, so i shall pass. besides, like i said, it's off-topic and may end up doing more harm in this thread than good . . . straight fact is feat-wise, her durability is no where even CLOSE to ss's. if you choose to pursue the issue, we could start a ss vs sersi thread (it's been done and i've had a hand in it . . .) i've no problem with that. start off with the best durability feats you can find for her, and i'll get a couple for ss and we'll hash it out. 🙂

bottomline -- sersi wins this fight without much trouble, imo, regardless of what storm tries to do.

Originally posted by leonidas
good catch, x. 😉

sym. chaos: i'm actually pretty ambivalent about what you were trying to say. it's perfectly fine by me if it's your opinion that their respective durability is close. the point is way off topic. i could show a couple scans of her being ko'd by things that would . . . not do much to ss. but it took a lot for me to drag my ass to my books and post the ones i did, so i shall pass. besides, like i said, it's off-topic and may end up doing more harm in this thread than good . . . straight fact is feat-wise, her durability is no where even CLOSE to ss's. if you choose to pursue the issue, we could start a ss vs sersi thread (it's been done and i've had a hand in it . . .) i've no problem with that. start off with the best durability feats you can find for her, and i'll get a couple for ss and we'll hash it out. 🙂

bottomline -- sersi wins this fight without much trouble, imo, regardless of what storm tries to do.

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What you have to realize is that I don't read many comics (unless you count manga). I go mainly off scans I've seen here and stats from wiki.

Personally, I don't think Sersi's transmutation would matter much in a fight. When has she actually transmutated an opponent? For that matter, Surfer doesn't really do this either to opponents, so to me, such abilities really matter little in hypothetical fights. I suppose my opinion might change if someone shows a scan of Sersi fighting an opponent and in a panel says, "Aw f*ck this. Transmutation into quarters! *Poof!* Now I can fill that parking meter..."

Sersi's energy projection and strength and speed are her main weapons and as an Eternal, I'd venture to say she's above Ms. Marvel, but not quite near Wonder Woman levels. But that's a tall order for Storm. Someone make another Sersi thread. This one's pretty conclusive.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
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What you have to realize is that I don't read many comics (unless you count manga). I go mainly off scans I've seen here and stats from wiki.

that's cool. this forum is (at times!) a great place to learn.

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