Mr. Mxy and Batmite vs. Reed with the UN and THanos with the IG

Started by nvrbeenwthagirl9 pages

Originally posted by King Kandy
It stopped the UN power and turned it around. That's the same as redirecting it. it's also the same as reversing.

It stopped the UN blast, the UN multiverse blast isn't any stronger, just bigger.

No just no. First of all, quasar using the uN is much differnt that say if REED or galactus was using it. @ndly, the magus could read minds. He could have done any number of things to redirect the blast. Hell ,Blink could put a portal in front of thanos blast and hit him with his own blast. is she now stronger than Thanos? the theory does not hold up at all. The IG is not more powerful than the UN.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
They were what is the word, pulling a ruse on everyone. becuz the magus could read people's minds.

...You mean that they intentionally forgot the info? That they didn't think about it?

BULLSHIT! Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit.

Besides, with the Time gem he'd read their minds from a time when they did remember it. Asuming they "Intentionaly Forgot it", which they didn't.

Originally posted by King Kandy
It did reoplace him. Eternity was 100% correct.

Could it replace Multi-Eternity? I don't know. It never tried.

How could one IG replace Multi-Eternity when there are other IG's in the other Eternity's? The owners of those IG's would surely fight with the IG ownder of the 616. As it stands, the Ig is only abe to replace one Eternity and is not more powerful than the UN that Reed used the way that Reed used it.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
No, he redirected it's own power back to itself. Not the same thing as reversing it's power. Let's see the IG stop the UN from unmaking the multiverse.

You are wrong in Quasar 40 it was shown that Quasar was able to fire with the UN and it sent almost everyone one to Oblivion Magus reversed that effect.

Originally posted by King Kandy
...You mean that they intentionally forgot the info? That they didn't think about it?

BULLSHIT! Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit.

Besides, with the Time gem he'd read their minds from a time when they did remember it. Asuming they "Intentionaly Forgot it", which they didn't.

Then how come The magus didn't get the IG first and then make his universe? why go thru all of the trouble of getting the cosmic cubes to make a universe that he knew he was goign to merge with the 616? answer that one.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Everybody in the infinity war was under the assumption that the IG was complete. look what I wrote. I said that the five gems were more powerful than the INCOMPLETE IG as they are actually shown making another universe.

Then how was the Magus able to complete merging the 2 universes much faster with the incomplete IG than with the 5 Cosmic Cubes?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
No just no. First of all, quasar using the uN is much differnt that say if REED or galactus was using it. @ndly, the magus could read minds. He could have done any number of things to redirect the blast. Hell ,Blink could put a portal in front of thanos blast and hit him with his own blast. is she now stronger than Thanos? the theory does not hold up at all. The IG is not more powerful than the UN.

Yes, he certainly COULD have done any of those things... But he didn't. He said otherwise. He said he took control of the Energies.

And no, Quasar's blast was NOT any different, Reed is just better at comprehending entities as grand as Multi-Eternity.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
You are wrong in Quasar 40 it was shown that Quasar was able to fire with the UN and it sent everyone one to Oblivion Magus reversed that effect.
It didn't send the mUltiverse to oblivion. I have said already that it said on panel that UN could destroy the Universe. Not The multiverse. Thanks tho. I already covered that. THe UN isn't shown to be multiversal until REED was using it.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Then how was the Magus able to complete merging the 2 universes much faster with the incomplete IG than with the 5 Cosmic Cubes?

The cosmic cubes has expended much energy creating the other universe. If the IG was so powerful, how come he didn't just make the other universe with IG ?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Then how come The magus didn't get the IG first and then make his universe? why go thru all of the trouble of getting the cosmic cubes to make a universe that he knew he was goign to merge with the 616? answer that one.

Because he knew the LT's ruling would not allowing the IG to work.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Then how come The magus didn't get the IG first and then make his universe? why go thru all of the trouble of getting the cosmic cubes to make a universe that he knew he was goign to merge with the 616? answer that one.

He was already in the process of merging the universes when he got the IG.

He needed the CC's to GET the IG, they were vital to his plans. Even if he didn't get the IG, the universes would still get fused, and he's still win the Infinity War...

Originally posted by King Kandy
Yes, he certainly COULD have done any of those things... But he didn't. He said otherwise. He said he took control of the Energies.

And no, Quasar's blast was NOT any different, Reed is just better at comprehending entities as grand as Multi-Eternity.

How can the IG be more powerful than the UN the way REED used it when there are other IG's. Other wearers who also were erased and reset? Explain that one. Theydind't all just let them selves be reset.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The cosmic cubes has expended much energy creating the other universe. If the IG was so powerful, how come he didn't just make the other universe with IG ?

Because he didn't have the IG at the time.

When he got it he was already in the middle of merging the universes.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The cosmic cubes has expended much energy creating the other universe.

Please show me where it states they used a lot of energy to create another universe.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
If the IG was so powerful, how come he didn't just make the other universe with IG ?

Because he already had the universe he wanted created when he acquired the IG. All he did was complete merging it with 616.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
How can the IG be more powerful than the UN the way REED used it when there are other IG's. Other wearers who also were erased and reset? Explain that one. Theydind't all just let them selves be reset.

BECAUSE THE IG'S WERE POWERLESS!!!!!

They were ALL rendered powerless by the LT's verdict, which applies to the entire multiverse (This was stated in rune).

Originally posted by King Kandy
He was already in the process of merging the universes when he got the IG.

He needed the CC's to GET the IG, they were vital to his plans. Even if he didn't get the IG, the universes would still get fused, and he's still win the Infinity War...

Still doesn't explain how IG>Un when the Ig isn't shown beating the UN the way REED used it. Galactus has specifically grown in power, and the UN is a part of him. Would not the UN have grown as well. The 616 Galactus is also special. The 616 is not. it's just part of the multiverse as The eterntiy/infinity being said. SO there is no way the 616 IG>>the 616 UN when Big G has grown in power and is special and the UN is part of the Special Big G.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
It didn't send the mUltiverse to oblivion. I have said already that it said on panel that UN could destroy the Universe. Not The multiverse. Thanks tho. I already covered that. THe UN isn't shown to be multiversal until REED was using it.

No one was aiming it at the Multiverse until reed used it...

Originally posted by King Kandy
BECAUSE THE IG'S WERE POWERLESS!!!!!

They were ALL rendered powerless by the LT's verdict, which applies to the entire multiverse (This was stated in rune).

NO. Just no. That is not true. Where does it say every single Ig was rendered powerless?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Still doesn't explain how IG>Un when the Ig isn't shown beating the UN the way REED used it. Galactus has specifically grown in power, and the UN is a part of him. Would not the UN have grown as well. The 616 Galactus is also special. The 616 is not. it's just part of the multiverse as The eterntiy/infinity being said. SO there is no way the 616 IG>>the 616 UN when Big G has grown in power and is special and the UN is part of the Special Big G.

That wasn't the only UN, Some What If's also had them...

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
NO. Just no. That is not true. Where does it say every single Ig was rendered powerless?

"The Gems may never be used as one"(Regardless of which set of gems)

"The Verdict applies only to this it's native multiverse"(Not universe)