Originally posted by Accel
You mean the ABC logic you hate so much? 😐He was, however, taken down.
If you hate ABC logic so much, why use it so compare Spider-Man, Namor, Samson, etc to Thor?
‘Cause that’s EXACTLY what ABC logic is.
Obviously not, since Hulk’s stalemated him time and time again. Proof’s in the comics. 😉
Thor’s been bested by Mongoose and was dropped by Mantis. 😐
You mean when Thor received 1 or 2 power-ups? Yeah, that negates 40+ years of continuity. 🙄
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This isn’t even worth responding to.
Good for him. A story where a Thor who is supposed to kill every one… kills every one.
Funny you ignore 40 years of continuity and only focus on that one moment. 🙄
Whoopdy friggin do. Nothing to indicate his fighting speed >>Hulk’s fighting speed.
Thor’s never had a high speed fight either. All his greatest speed feats are traveling feats with his hammer.
Look at his fights. He has no real combat speed feats that say he can avoid Hulk's attacks or so much as speedblitz him.
Yeah, because all a blood-lusted Surfer can do is shoot energy blasts.
Let me ask you since, you a believe an opponent not holding back automatically means he’s going at full speeds-
Since Thor wasn;t holding back against the young Maestro version of Hulk (even experience a little Warrior Madness mode) would you say he was moving as fast as possible against hulk?
Careful how you answer, since if you say no, then that means you can’t claim Surfer was using any real degree of super-speed. If you say yes, then apparently Hulk can keep up with Thor.
So which is it?
Because Thor isn’t a fast fighter. This has been shown several times. He was helpless against Spider-Man very time they’ve met. He was downright laid out against Mongoose. He was slow compared to Daredevil. He couldn’t this so called “speed” against Hercules. He couldn’t dodge Juggernaut’s attacks, Namor’s attacks, Wonder Man’s attacks, etc, etc.
These people kept up with Thor. Hulk will too.
Do you have Alzheimer’s or something? You started this. 😕
Thhey’d just hang with him as well, until he becomes too strong for them handle.
No, Hercules isn’t Thor. He’s a better fighter than Thor. He bested Thor in H2H but he couldn’t best Hulk.
Thor only jobs when he doesn’t use his versatility. However, almost any one here will agree that a slugfest between the two is portrayed accurately in the comics.
My logic makes sense. You bring up Spider-Man KOing Hulk with a truck and somehow use that as evidence that Thor wins. You claim Thor jobs when he doesn’t dominate Hulk physically without using reasoning to back it up.
My logic shows that someone as strong as Thor even more skilled than him fails to put Hulk down- as has Thor himself as well- then naturally Thor won’t either.
So Classic Juggernaut isn’t as strong as Classic Thor? Is 8th Day Juggernaut?
I know these are off topic, but I would really appreciate an answer to this.
What you think it looks like has no relevance. What actually happened does.
The blast destroyed a universe, meaning it was a universe-destroying blast. And Hulk took it head on. I’m still waiting for something that Thor’s done that compares to that.
Your claiming Hulk can't be physically incapacitated by Thor and BRB because his strength and durability will grow too quickly for the task to be completed, my points were brought up to prove other wise.
I'm not saying that because Hulk was defeated by Abomination or Spider Man that he automatically loses to Thor and BRB. I'm saying that he has been physically incapacitated before, showing that while angry he has been ko'd by a sufficient force. There is no plausible reason why with enough force Thor and BRB can't accomplish the same feat.
Your saying Hercules has skills and they never work on Hulk. This has nothing to do with the fact that time and time again, skill has shown to be a valuable asset in battle. There is no denying that skill and strength will be superior to simply strength.
So take a look at the comic where Hulk lay on his back dead. While your at that take a look at the comics where Thor battles Ego, Stranger, Galactus, Celestials, Zeus, Infinity Watch, Surfer, Mangog, etc, and tell me again why you believe Thor should have trouble with Hulk.
Still Thor wasn't ko'd, Hulk however time and again has shown differently.
You know as well as I do that not only did Thor not have possession of the Odin Power, but he also lost use of Mjolnir. Although you like to side step this battle, it shows that Thor was on that day Hulk's physical superior. Hulk has never killed Thor, when it was ultimately time to show who the superior of the two was, Thor prevailed.
Like stated before. Thor has fought as super speeds, characters with super speed were created out of his DNA, he has been described as being as quick as lightning, etc. Again you may not want to accept it, but BRB and Thor are much faster than Hulk.
Your trying to say Thor's not fast by bringing low feats into account. Look at his greatest feats which show him running and becoming invisible, and fighting Thalif at super speeds. Also look up the feats that have him blocking bullets, and having characters with super speed created with his DNA.
Yes and Hulk is included with that everyone. The same can not be said about Hulk in reference to his battles with Thor.
Ok, You can't accept Thor's faster than Hulk. Although even when you look at official handbooks Thor is listed with god like reflexes.
I've listed a number of Thor's speed feats, however you chose to ignore them.
Yes I know Accel, I've already stated Thor isn't that powerful while written on earth. He's not as fast, not as strong, not as skilled, not as smart, not as powerful. Now go take a look at his higher feats, where he's fighting characters worth mentioning.
He wasn't helpless against Surfer, Gladiator, Hyperion, etc.
You stated that Hulk couldn't be ko'd. I proved otherwise by bringing up points in Hulk's history where he was ko'd by characters weaker than the ones featured in this battle. Your bringing up Mongoose to try and prove Thor's slow when he has fought and faired well against much faster characters, these are two different situations.
I don't quite understand your logic.
A character with low tier strength, and a tad bit of strength can hang with Hulk. You then say characters with Top tier strength, durability, stamina, moderate speed will also just hang with him. I don't get that?
So what about their fights outside of Hulk. Are we supposed to disregard their battles were skill was vital, so we can boost Hulk? Again, characters job to Hulk.
Here's how I see it. Classic Juggernaut, van potentially become strongest than Thor. However due to his stupidity Cain will never know how to properly implement his unlimited strength. However strength alone will not get you a win over classic Thor.
8th day Juggernaut is Classic Juggernaut.
The scan doesn't show a universe. You can post it again, but it's really not impressive.😬