Beta Ray Bill and Thor (Weaponless) versus Hulk

Carver here are a lot of Hulk vs Thor battles. And this is why I have trouble believing that the Hulk would be able to beat both Thor, and Bill. i mean how could he, if he has so much trouble with Thor alone.

Originally posted by B.A
I think its pretty much every Huc and Thor fight, even a few non canon ones like What If. Remember these are out of order and everything

lol.

Hulk vs Thor 1

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Hulk vs Thor 2

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Hulk vs Thor 3

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Hulk Vs Thor 4

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Hulk vs Thor 5

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Hulk vs Thor 6

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Hulk vs Thor 7

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Hulk vs Thor 8

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Hulk vs Thor 9

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Hulk vs Thor 10

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Hulk vs Thor 11

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Hulk vs Thor 12

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May as well have them all together.

Originally posted by Stoic
It was actually stated on panel. You said that I was ignoring things. Wow.

I agree. Glad we agree that Hulk is the most powerful being in existence.

👆

Originally posted by carver9
I agree. Glad we agree that Hulk is the most powerful being in existence.

👆

Even more powerful than Galactus? How about Zeus? shoot he should be able to walk all over Odin.

Originally posted by Stoic
Carver here are a lot of Hulk vs Thor battles. And this is why I have trouble believing that the Hulk would be able to beat both Thor, and Bill. i mean how could he, if he has so much trouble with Thor alone.

Look at those fights and then look at the OP and tell me what you see that is different. Then when you come to realize that Hulk has received a power increase since those scans, Holla at me. Your boring to debate against. We are done.

Originally posted by carver9
Look at those fights and then look at the OP and tell me what you see that is different. Then when you come to realize that Hulk has received a power increase since those scans, Holla at me. Your boring to debate against. We are done.

You mean you're done. Always speak for yourself.

Originally posted by Stoic
You mean you're done. Always speak for yourself.

We are done. You haven't added anything to this debate. Our original topic was to show where Hulk operates at strength wise in the beginning...you haven't shown anything besides you lowballing. As it is right now, Hulk starts out at high Herald strength until it's proven otherwise...by someone else.

Originally posted by Stoic
Even more powerful than Galactus? How about Zeus? shoot he should be able to walk all over Odin.

So we can't accept that statement but we accept the statement from your scan?

Hulk wins 6/10.

And here I thought that you were done. Or are you pretending to be a Moderator? You have no power here Carver. It's not my fault that your comprehension level is so low, and that you resort to misrepresentations to pass off most of the scans that you post. You post out of context every chance you get to pull the wool over peoples eyes, and then act stupid when you're caught. I gave reasons why the team wins, you just keep posting up scans of the irrelevant.

Why does the hulk win in your opinion? If you have no reasons concede, and be done with it like you said that you were done with it.

Originally posted by carver9
So we can't accept that statement but we accept the statement from your scan?

No because he got the snot beaten out of him by Zeus, and Thor alone without the hammer has given him hell. In this match he actually has two Thor level characters trying to beat him into a KO'd state. while he has to take time to get up to their level. They never have to give him that time.

Originally posted by Stoic
And here I thought that you were done. Or are you pretending to be a Moderator? You have no power here Carver. It's not my fault that your comprehension level is so low, and that you resort to misrepresentations to pass off most of the scans that you post. You post out of context every chance you get to pull the wool over peoples eyes, and then act stupid when you're caught. I gave reasons why the team wins, you just keep posting up scans of the irrelevant.

Why does the hulk win in your opinion? If you have no reasons concede, and be done with it like you said that you were done with it.

Or its not your fault that you debate against yourself and ignore evidence and is a hypocrite to the highest of order. You post scans and then ignore others because you don't like it. Grow up and Holla at me when you realize your flaws in debating. Let's add this to your list.

6. Stoic post a scan that states this but when someone post a statement saying something else, he ignores it because it makes his hyperbolic scan look stupid. Thumbs up hypocrite.

Originally posted by Stoic
No because he got the snot beaten out of him by Zeus, and Thor alone without the hammer has given him hell. In this match he actually has two Thor level characters trying to beat him into a KO'd state. while he has to take time to get up to their level. They never have to give him that time.

And Thor have strength fts where he failed to lift up a pile of cars that was lying on him. And there are other showing of strength outside of planetary that Thor failed to lift. Does that take away from your scan?

Originally posted by carver9
Or its not your fault that you debate against yourself and ignore evidence and is a hypocrite to the highest of order. You post scans and then ignore others because you don't like it. Grow up and Holla at me when you realize your flaws in debating. Let's add this to your list.

6. Stoic post a scan that states this but when someone post a statement saying something else, he ignores it because it makes his hyperbolic scan look stupid. Thumbs up hypocrite.

Do you even know what the word hypocrite means Carver? Stop wading in the deep end before you drown your poor self. There was nothing hyperbolic about the arm wrestling match that Hercules had with Thor. The writer was just telling the reader what the effect of that match did to the planet. Another word thrown about that has seemingly eluded your simple mind.

Originally posted by carver9
And Thor have strength fts where he failed to lift up a pile of cars that was lying on him. And there are other showing of strength outside of planetary that Thor failed to lift. Does that take away from your scan?

And I'm the one low balling? Now is the time to throw out the word hypocrite.

Originally posted by Stoic
And I'm the one low balling? Now is the time to throw out the word hypocrite.

You've been lowballing this entire time. Now again, what makes your statement better than my Hulk statement? Both are Hyperbole. You bringing up Zeus and Odin being more powerful is like me bringing i up non hyperbole showings where Thor failed to lift something a lot less than planetary.

Originally posted by carver9
You've been lowballing this entire time. Now again, what makes your statement better than my Hulk statement? Both are Hyperbole. You bringing up Zeus and Odin being more powerful is like me bringing i up non hyperbole showings where Thor failed to lift something a lot less than planetary.

I realize that it takes you time to come to an understanding, but there was nothing hyperbolic about the arm wrestling match that Hercules had with Thor. once again, the writer wanted the reader to know the effect that their match was having on the planet that the contest took place on. hyperbole is saying that the Hulk is the most powerful being in the universe without showing him defeating the most powerful being in the universe. You see the difference? probably not but i just thought that I'd take a shot in the dark.

low balling is never what i did. From the start, i made it be known how the Hulk's powers work. How in the world does a guy that steadily grows stronger by the passing of time start off at High herald strength on average, but then has trouble taking out another guy with Mid- high herald strength? The only person that you're fooling is yourself. You also don't have to hate a character, and could actually like them, even if you know that there are other characters out there that could wipe the floor with them. This is my stance.

Originally posted by Stoic
I realize that it takes you time to come to an understanding, but there was nothing hyperbolic about the arm wrestling match that Hercules had with Thor. once again, the writer wanted the reader to know the effect that their match was having on the planet that the contest took place on. hyperbole is saying that the Hulk is the most powerful being in the universe without showing him defeating the most powerful being in the universe. You see the difference? probably not but i just thought that I'd take a shot in the dark.

low balling is never what i did. From the start, i made it be known how the Hulk's powers work. How in the world does a guy that steadily grows stronger by the passing of time start off at High herald strength on average, but then has trouble taking out another guy with Mid- high herald strength? The only person that you're fooling is yourself. You also don't have to hate a character, and could actually like them, even if you know that there are other characters out there that could wipe the floor with them. This is my stance.

Hyperbole statement. Find something else.

Originally posted by carver9
Hyperbole statement. Find something else.

You find something else, my reasoning is sound, yours is just filled with what appears to be butthurt. You have yet to come up with a reason why these two could not beat the snot out of the Hulk the minute that they hear the gong. I've asked you this several times, and all you do is dodge, and post up irrelevant scans that have nothing to do with the question. I posted up scans that you were asking for, and that wasn't enough, I made it known how the Hulk of canon's power set actually works, and you decided that you were right, and the people who created him were wrong. i don't know what to tell you kid. I even said that given enough time he would be able to pass their level, but you can't have any of that. In your mind the Hulk beats everyone, and no one would ever be able to match him.

Originally posted by Stoic
You find something else, my reasoning is sound, yours is just filled with what appears to be butthurt. You have yet to come up with a reason why these two could not beat the snot out of the Hulk the minute that they hear the gong. I've asked you this several times, and all you do is dodge, and post up irrelevant scans that have nothing to do with the question. I posted up scans that you were asking for, and that wasn't enough, I made it known how the Hulk of canon's power set actually works, and you decided that you were right, and the people who created him were wrong. i don't know what to tell you kid. I even said that given enough time he would be able to pass their level, but you can't have any of that. In your mind the Hulk beats everyone, and no one would ever be able to match him.

Let me know when you find out what hyperbole means and they reason why the can't beat him as soon as the bell ring is, Thor has been stalemated by Wolverine and defeated by Spiderman, and lost to Venom. That makes him class 25. Grey Hulk has defeated more powerful beings than this. I learned this style of debating from Stoic.

Originally posted by carver9
Let me know when you find out what hyperbole means and they reason why the can't beat him as soon as the bell ring is, Thor has been stalemated by Wolverine and defeated by Spiderman, and lost to Venom. That makes him class 25. Grey Hulk has defeated more powerful beings than this. I learned this style of debating from Stoic.

Actually you haven't been able to comprehend what I stated, and it's no wonder, you could not even comprehend Thor being KO'd by his hammer that the Hulk used to amplify a cheap shot. What you just wrote proves your ignorance. not to mention that you will always misrepresent things at any, and every chance that you get. You still don't know what hyperbole means, or hypocrite, and likely several other words that you butcher.

You still have yet to stop low balling, and give a solid reason for why you believe that the Hulk would ramp up fast enough to take out guys whose base stats are greater than his individually. All you seem to want to do is toss insults around as if it will earn you a point. Why does he beat them? If it were true that the Hulk began at high Herald level, Sun God wouldn't have beaten him even with the gimp that he went in with. He would never struggle for long against a high herald. He would just walk through everyone on that level, but he doesn't.

Why? No insults just tell me why.