Originally posted by DarkOdin
It was very clear Zeus was toying with Hulk, lets not act like Zeus was going all out.
👆 As Zeus says here he brought his true punishment upon himself long ago.
Zeus just gave him a big arse kicking so Hulk knew not to come back.
Zeus was a bit p*ssed when Hulk hit him, so Zeus laid him out but ultimately knew the Hulk himself had suffered enough punishment.
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
👆 As Zeus says here he brought his true punishment upon himself long ago.Zeus just gave him a big arse kicking so Hulk knew not to come back.
Where in that scan does it state Zeus was holding back his strength during that fight? The only thing Zeus told Hulk was that he wouldn't blast him but besides that, nothing was shown that Zeus held back unless again, you have proof. Now there is proof that Hulk held back.
Originally posted by carver9
Where in that scan does it state Zeus was holding back his strength during that fight? The only thing Zeus told Hulk was that he wouldn't blast him but besides that, nothing was shown that Zeus held back unless again, you have proof. Now there is proof that Hulk held back.
I wasn't stating that Zeus held back. I was merely sharing a scan that DarkOdin was possibly referring too.
But nevertheless I will explain. We know obviously that Zeus was angry as he says in the beginning he will grant the Hulk's wishes to die by his hand. And Zeus went a bit mad. I mean wouldn't you go a bit mad if someone just punched you in the face?
If Zeus had wanted to really kill Hulk as he stated would he have allowed Hera to engage in conversation with him? Unlikely, if that wasn't the case and Zeus was out for the kill he would've murdered Hulk right there. Ultimately Zeus briefly lost his temper but then came to his senses.
I know Hulk wanted to die so you don't need to argue that point with me.
For the people reading over this here are the scans I am referencing.
If Zeus wasn't holding back why did he even let Hera speak to him? As we can see Zeus just gives him a firm "p*ss off", nothing more nothing less.
Zeus wasn't ever going to kill him.
Zeus even says "Offering your self as a sacrifice, dying for other peoples sins. Wrong religion". So if Zeus wasn't adhering to what he states there i.e not holding back Hulk would've been killed.
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
I wasn't stating that Zeus held back. I was merely sharing a scan that DarkOdin was possibly referring too.But nevertheless I will explain. We know obviously that Zeus was angry as he says in the beginning he will grant the Hulk's wishes to die by his hand. And Zeus went a bit mad. I mean wouldn't you go a bit mad if someone just punched you in the face?
If Zeus had wanted to really kill Hulk as he stated would he have allowed Hera to engage in conversation with him? Unlikely, if that wasn't the case and Zeus was out for the kill he would've murdered Hulk right there. Ultimately Zeus briefly lost his temper but then came to his senses.
I know Hulk wanted to die so you don't need to argue that point with me.
The fight was done when she started talking. It wasn't an allow in it period. She just started talking. Her telling Hulk's story doesn't mean Zeus held back his power (lol). Molecule Man talked before ripping Sentry to shreds, does that mean he held back? Zeus said he was going to beat Hulk to death and he used charged fist while doing this. Just because his wife decided to talk doesn't change his goal and he nearly achieved that until he found out that Hulk goal was to die when he came there to face Zeus.
Her telling Hulk's story doesn't mean Zeus held back his power (lol).
Quote me where I even said that. I stated that if he wasn't holding back he would've carried on punding on Hulk regardless.
Molecule Man talked before ripping Sentry to shreds, does that mean he held back?
This is off topic and doesn't accentuate your argument.
Zeus said he was going to beat Hulk to death and he used charged fist while doing this.
I explained this so I wont go into it. Don't see how having charged fists helps your argument.
Zeus beat him into virtually having a weakened healing factor. That's why he done it so he could be tortured.
Originally posted by carver9
Hercules was talking while he was beating Sentry down. I guess that means Herc was holding back.
Stop being pedantic and going off topic please. It isn't clever and doesn't further your argument.
Why does the Sentry even come into it? Beating him down, what rubbish. Reread the scans and tell me what happened.
(taken from Enzeru's respect thread)
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Herc did nothing of the sort so please stop making up false claims.
Don't start another Sentry argument on a thread where it isn't wanted or needed.
This ruins it for others.
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Quote me where I even said that. I stated that if he wasn't holding back he would've carried on punding on Hulk regardless.This is off topic and doesn't accentuate your argument. It is off topic as well.
I explained this so I wont go into it. Don't see how having charged fists helps your argument.
Zeus beat him into virtually having a weakened healing factor. That's why he done it so he could be tortured.
He pounded on him, and not with just his average fist either. He had lightning oozing from his hand. Grew in size and said that he was going to kill Hulk. That's not the sign of someone holding back.
It's not off topic. Molecule Man talked to Sentry which means he held back.
If he was holding back, why add additional powers to a fist fight? Why not just use your hands?
Wait a minute, so he pounded on him to get rid of his healing factor (lololololol)? Where did you get that from? Hulk would've still be chained up or probably died if it wasn't for Herc and his friends.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/5863252/Incredible_Hulks_622_018.jpg.html
Also, provide a scan on when Hulk lost his healing factor against Zeus. At what point did he lose it?
Per Zeus own words..."No my wife, the Hulk knows my POWER now".
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/5863257/Incredible_Hulks_622_022.jpg.html
How would Hulk know Zeus power if Zeus held back? Wait, lets reword Zeus words to fit the argument here. "No my wife. The Hulk knows part of my power now since I held back". There ya go. Are you satisfied?
He pounded on him, and not with just his average fist either. He had lightning oozing from his hand. Grew in size and said that he was going to kill Hulk. That's not the sign of someone holding back.
Define Zeus's average fist then?
If he was holding back, why add additional powers to a fist fight? Why not just use your hands?
Because he was trying to teach him a lesson.
It's not off topic. Molecule Man talked to Sentry which means he held back.
It is, so I wont answer it further. Lest I need to pursue a mod to correct you.
Wait a minute, so he pounded on him to get rid of his healing factor (lololololol)? Where did you get that from? Hulk would've still be chained up or probably died if it wasn't for Herc and his friends.
No I said he beat him that badly that he pretty much had a weakened healing factor. Don't misquote as that is the wrong thing to do.
Also, provide a scan on when Hulk lost his healing factor against Zeus. At what point did he lose it? [/B]
Here is your proof.
As stated by Hephaestus. Due to the beating he received by Zeus.
"Your wounds wont heal for a long time"
So did Zeus beat him so hard that he got severely weakened or did the TOAA implement a failsafe?
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Define Zeus's average fist then?Because he was trying to teach him a lesson.
It is, so I wont answer it further. Lest I need to pursue a mod to correct you.
No I said he beat him that badly that he pretty much had a weakened healing factor. Don't misquote as that is the wrong thing to do.
Not what I stated, I said Zeus beat him so badly that he weakened his healing factor.
Here is your proof.
As stated by Hephaestus. Due to the beating he received by Zeus.
"Your wounds wont heal for a long time"
So did Zeus beat him so hard that he got severely weakened or did the TOAA implement a failsafe?
His average fist would be one that isn't charged with Godly power.
Where did he say he was trying to teach him a lesson? Are we making up things? He said he was going to beat him to death, not teach him a lesson. Hulk talked in the beginning as well. Hulk held back. After punching Zeus, why did he stop and talk instead of continuing pounding on him?
Read the scan you posted. He said his healing factor is gone because he was HIT by Zeus (singular), not because he was beaten to almost near death by Zeus. There's a difference. GOD!!!
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What other powers does Zeus have?
Read my post that Dark Odin quoted, then explain to me why you are asking me about additional powers.
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Originally posted by carver9
Even though I think Hulk wins this, Thor isn't a chump. Thor has withstood beatings from Kurse, someone that is 4 times stronger than him....received beatings from Mangog, someone that Odin himself is weary of. It has nothing to do with someone killing a high Herald from the onset of the battle because Supes, Thor, Surfer, and Hulk has survived punches from beings far more powerful than them. That's what makes them Heralds, the best of the bunch.Before Zeus hit him with a full dose of lightning, Zeus literally had to pound on Hulk before taking him out of the fight and we are talking about one of the most powerful Skyfather in comics. So yeah, Hulk not outright taking Sun God had nothing to do with him being stronger or not, it had more to do with Sun God durability. Looking at the fight, Hulk clearly had the physical advantage, Sun God was getting wailed on. Sun God energy output is what took Hulk out.
Hulk can be 10 times stronger than Thor, that still doesn't mean he is taking Thor out easily or any other High Herald, especially if we look at their fts. Everyone and their grandma knows Hulk is stronger than Surfer but Surfer has withstood hits from beings that has challenged Galactus himself. I think you are looking at this wrong. You might need to look at the durability of the characters that Hulk is wailing on first before judging his strength.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Thanks👆So, what other powers does Zeus, one of the most [b]power
ful Skyfathers, have? [/B]
Hes most famous for his Lightning.
Originally posted by carver9
His average fist would be one that isn't charged with Godly power.Where did he say he was trying to teach him a lesson? Are we making up things? He said he was going to beat him to death, not teach him a lesson. Hulk talked in the beginning as well. Hulk held back. After punching Zeus, why did he stop and talk instead of continuing pounding on him?
Read the scan you posted. He said his healing factor is gone because he was HIT by Zeus (singular), not because he was beaten to almost near death by Zeus. There's a difference. GOD!!!
Listen Carver. I am not here to be spoke to sarcastically. You can either debate it properly or I just wont even bother to be honest.
Do you want me to carry on? Or are you going to carry on?
Why would I not read a scan I posted?
By saying "You've been hit by Zeus" it isn't singular. It's a remark of Zeus's power. Like woah Zeus punched you. Not Zeus punched you once.
It's like if I was in a boxing ring and got knocked out by Henry Cooper. If I woke up in hospital the nurse would say "You were hit by Henry Cooper" it doesn't mean he hit me once.
But like I said we can carry on debating but don't treat me like a fool by saying I haven't read the scans. That isn't a nice thing to say.
