Originally posted by Wally West
Surfer's speed isn't drawn from the speedforce, so Flash wouldn't be able to steal it.
Does someone's speed need to be drawn from the speedforce for that to work? If so then peope on this board are very mis-informed because people use that argument for him all the time.
I think SS's powers are way too versatile. He thinks, and can react at speeds that could allow him to catch the Flash, and his powers give him a multitude of ways to hurt Flash.
Doesn't everthings speed in the DCU drawn from the Speedforce? I mean is it fair to assume the power cosmic does not work in the DCU also? In JLA/Avengers Wally did not have his powers while he was in the MU but on the same note while Infinity Gems were in the DCU they did not work either.
Wally draws his power from the Speedforce while Norrin draws his from the power cosmic.
Wally can not only steal something's speed, he can also steal somethings kinetic energy, which are a mite bit different.
The Surfer can always further propel himself past the kinetic energy steal, but I was just pointing the idea out.
Also, as far as this fight goes, the Surfer wins. The Flash is high-herald level, but the Surfer is one of THE highest heralds.
Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
Does someone's speed need to be drawn from the speedforce for that to work?
I think this fight is a bit of a mis-match to be honest.
Originally posted by Wally WestIts because his speed isn't derived of energy, but time.
Yes, Wally and Jay tried stealing Zoom's speed but it didn't work as his speed isn't from the speedforce, it wouldn't work on Surfer.I think this fight is a bit of a mis-match to be honest.
The speedforce is the sum of all motion.
Originally posted by Wally West
I don't have the issue in front of me to check but I'm pretty certain Jay or Wally says its because his speed isn't drawn from the speedforce. Surfer's speed is nothing to do with the speedforce so it wouldn't work.
Nope Juntai is spot on the speed force is speed and motion so if surfers moving his pretty vunerable to that form of attack.
Originally posted by Supreme being
Nope Juntai is spot on the speed force is speed and motion so if surfers moving his pretty vunerable to that form of attack.
Silver Surfer has time travelled in the past, in addition to travelling through dimensional barriers. You cannot do that with just kinetic energy, no matter how much you have.