SS vs flash

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darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by Juntai
It hits with the MASS of a star not the heat.
It's like being slapped upside the head with a planet... or a few hudnred, depending on what size of star we're talking about.

I don't think Flash has ever reached a limit of what amount of kinetic energy he can take. He's mainlined to the source of all kinetic energy. He is the avatar of motion.

But yeah Surfer would probably take majority.


Yes he hits with the mass of a star. But Surfer can withstand the mass of a black hole pretty much without worry, and I'm pretty sure that's higher. I'm not saying that it wouldn't knock Surfer for a loop, I just don't see it causing nearly as much damage to Surfer as does against the people it's actually used against.

And I'm pretty sure that Surfer's energy output has never really reached a limit, so as I said, I can see Surfer countering that fairly easily also.

That's why I have to give Surfer 10/10 against Flash. It's not that Flash isn't powerful, I just feel that Surfer has a counter for pretty much all of Flashes best tricks, while Flash is lacking a counter for many of Norrin's.

Symmetric Chaos Fractal King
Originally posted by darthgoober
Yes he hits with the mass of a star. But Surfer can withstand the mass of a black hole pretty much without worry, and I'm pretty sure that's higher.

Stars and blackholes are both extremely variable in weight, however within our universe no single object can have more mass than a black hole.

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Would you say Thanos' fist hits harder than the mass of a star packed into a human fist moving lightspeed?

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by Juntai
Would you say Thanos' fist hits harder than the mass of a star packed into a human fist moving lightspeed?

Well Thanos is a special case because we have no idea just how hard he's hitting. His ability to amp up his strength with cosmic energy makes a judging something like that all but impossible. But considering the fact that he's able to hit hard enough to make Odin grimace and knock around users of the power gem, I would have to say yes(but like I said, there's no way to tell HOW much harder). I know it doesn't make much sense, but the fact is that there's evidence to back it.

Mindship Snap out of it.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
I'm not saying that Flash wins majority, but this ONE trick pony's ONE trick is a tactical advantage that he can use in many different ways

Agreed. Imagine what a multi-trick pony could do.

Stupid Rookie Senior Member

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Actually.....yes 😐

Wait, why is this fight going on in two places at the same time?

Kutulu Restricted
Originally posted by Juntai
Would you say Thanos' fist hits harder than the mass of a star packed into a human fist moving lightspeed?

As I mentioned before, Thanos amps his attacks with cosmic force.

If you look at any of the classic scans where Thanos smacks around the Hulk or Surfer, his fists are glowing with a nimbus of energy.

It basically combines an energy blast with his punch in order to make his punches / hits hurt way more than they ordinarily would. I think Surfer would take a 10/10 here. Surfer can traverse any dimension he's been to before, making escaping the speed force a piece of cake. Surfer has flown straight through a black hole without being hurt. He can shrink his body down to the size of atoms without damaging himself; his body basically cannot die from purely physical attacks.

Anybody who can fly through a sun and suffer absolutely zero effect from it, or fly straight through a black hole without slowing down, is not going to be hurt by a punch that uses less mass than what he's already dealt with. Even Superman has had trouble getting out of a black hole, for Surfer it's just a quick flight through.

By Crom! Restricted
Originally posted by Juntai
And Speedforce is just a fancy name for the sum of all motion. Doesn't motion exist in Marvel?

Sadly the speed force doesn't exist in MArvel. JLA/ Avengers showed this.

UMP would still hurt surfer.