Rugal Bernstein vs. Ryu Hayabusa

Started by Darkstorm Zero16 pages

Thats A>B>C logic... Akuma's in posession of overwhelming deadly force, has fought and killed those even strnger than him (Goutetsu for instance, Gouken for another) and even though he hasn't busted up a planet (Heaven forbid... he'd be Darkstalker levels then) he has performed much better feats than the one who defeated the two characters you mention..

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Thats A>B>C logic... Akuma's in posession of overwhelming deadly force, has fought and killed those even strnger than him (Goutetsu for instance, Gouken for another) and even though he hasn't busted up a planet (Heaven forbid... he'd be Darkstalker levels then) he has performed much better feats than the one who defeated the two characters you mention..

- I don't see where you're getting the A>B>C logic from since I didn't claim anywhere that Ryu would beat Akuma...

- I'm arguing that they can beat him...

You say planet busting power, therefore... Ect,Ect. Alrighty, well I didn't get a counterargument from my points.

Uhh...counterargument?

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Thats A>B>C logic... Akuma's in posession of overwhelming deadly force, has fought and killed those even strnger than him (Goutetsu for instance, Gouken for another) and even though he hasn't busted up a planet (Heaven forbid... he'd be Darkstalker levels then) he has performed much better feats than the one who defeated the two characters you mention..

Right here, read past the ABC bit...

Well I know Akuma has performed better feats than Ryu did...lol...

TBH, I don't think Akuma should get much stronger than he is now... if Capcom push him too much further, he'll be a Darkstalker level character...

Besides, wasn't it part of his story that those posessed by the Dark hadou never know their limits until they slam into it facefirst and die?

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
- I also agreed that he wouldn't win in a H2H fight πŸ˜‰
You did not.

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
- I think you're a fanboy because you claim that you've won even in cases where all of your arguments have been shot down.
You're the only one whose arguments have been shot down, and furthermore you can't remember who brought up G. Rugal in the first place, what's allowed in the forum, so you backpeddaled and made excuses as the debate draggged on. Basing your arguments again off of a... fan website. Don't think you've owned anything, I have college and work, so my time is restricted. πŸ˜‰

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
- I guess I can use that to say that you don't know much about me either, so that makes you a hypocrite.
I have posted much less than you, the forum view of you is pretty much the same, as compared to otherwise. Newb.

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
- I advice you to get off of my back. Continue with this and I think I'll report you to the mods, since if I recall bashing of any sort is not allowed here, and you were the one who started giving insults.
You were the one who mentioned me when I said nothing to you, so you should take your own advice.

1. You bashed me first.

2. Tell the mods all you want, I've dealt with types like you who tell when they can't do nothing else, read my profile. They'll see you insulting too, and I'll just get more people to agree on my side because more just don't like you. 😬 Not the wisest move. You really don't bother me and I thought the debate funny. But you are newer so you think I'm out to get you, a flamewar bothers me very little.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You did not.

You're the only one whose arguments have been shot down, and furthermore you can't remember who brought up G. Rugal in the first place, what's allowed in the forum, so you backpeddaled and made excuses as the debate draggged on. Basing your arguments again off of a... fan website. Don't think you've owned anything, I have college and work, so my time is restricted. πŸ˜‰

I have posted much less than you, the forum view of you is pretty much the same, as compared to otherwise. Newb.

You were the one who mentioned me when I said nothing to you, so you should take your own advice.

1. You bashed me first.

2. Tell the mods all you want, I've dealt with types like you who tell when they can't do nothing else, read my profile. They'll see you insulting too, and I'll just get more people to agree on my side because more just don't like you. 😬 Not the wisest move. You really don't bother me and I thought the debate funny. But you are newer so you think I'm out to get you, a flamewar bothers me very little.


- Um...yes I did.

- Uh-huh...

- Sure...

- Whatever...

- No, you did.

- I was thinking of reporting you to a mod since you're breaking a rule of the site, yet you're calling me a newb? πŸ˜† and only 2 other people agree with you, and that's because I have an opinion πŸ˜† I can get more people on my side because all you're trying to do is bash me, but does anyone care about your efforts? No.

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
- Um...yes I did.

- Uh-huh...

- Sure...

- Whatever...

- No, you did.

- I was thinking of reporting you to a mod since you're breaking a rule of the site, yet you're calling me a newb? πŸ˜† and only 2 other people agree with you, and that's because I have an opinion πŸ˜† I can get more people on my side because all you're trying to do is bash me, but does anyone care about your efforts? No.

You tried to argue he had a chance of beating him, being intentionally ambiguous and vague. So you could swap the interpretation later.

In your own mind.

Which means I'm right...

Read above.

You bashed first and you accused me of bringing up G. Rugal first... and then tried to switch the argument.

You've bashed 3 people in the same thread, so would that make you more of a rule-breaker than I? Yes, you are a newb. Because like I said this doesn't bother me much, you're the one wanting to tattle when before you were "making me look bad". I love people who dish it out but can't take it.

And no, hoshi, dvampire, Darkstorm, Tricksterpriest, Remulous agree with me. No veteran on this forum agrees with your entire conclusion except you. Noone cares about your efforts, because I was getting pmed in the other forum about a fanboy here in the first place. Which is why I came back to see. Regardless I did pm you asking if you wanted to solve this in a mature way and you didn't respond. I said nothing to you for days and you brought up my name, and then you accuse me of bashing you? Whatever makes you feel right. πŸ˜‰

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You tried to argue he had a chance of beating him, being intentionally ambiguous and vague. So you could swap the interpretation later.

In your own mind.

Which means I'm right...

Read above.

You bashed first and you accused me of bringing up G. Rugal first... and then tried to switch the argument.

You've bashed 3 people in the same thread, so would that make you more of a rule-breaker than I? Yes, you are a newb. Because like I said this doesn't bother me much, you're the one wanting to tattle when before you were "making me look bad". I love people who dish it out but can't take it.

And no, hoshi, dvampire, Darkstorm, Tricksterpriest, Remulous agree with me. No veteran on this forum agrees with your entire conclusion except you. Noone cares about your efforts, because I was getting pmed in the other forum about a fanboy here in the first place. Which is why I came back to see. Regardless I did pm you asking if you wanted to solve this in a mature way and you didn't respond. I said nothing to you for days and you brought up my name, and then you accuse me of bashing you? Whatever makes you feel right. πŸ˜‰


- Show where I've said this, since I'm pretty sure I argued Ryu could win with all his weapons from NG.

- Whatever you say...

- I didn't bash anyone but you, and that's because you started the flaming. You started calling me a fanboy and what not; it was you who started that line of shit. No one agrees with me? The only sole person on this forum who thinks that is you. What would anyone except the two mentioned people agree with you on? All you're trying to do is make me seem like a fanboy, and pretty much nothing else. I did not get a pm from you either, and I wasn't the one who brought up your name in the first place...

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
- Show where I've said this, since I'm pretty sure I argued Ryu could win with all his weapons from NG.

- Whatever you say...

None of this matters anymore, but you did say this... on to the flaming.

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
- I didn't bash anyone but you, and that's because you started the flaming. You started calling me a fanboy and what not; it was you who started that line of shit.
So you didn't bash Trickster and Rem?

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
No one agrees with me? The only sole person on this forum who thinks that is you.
Wrong, so wrong. But I'm not here to embarrass you anymore. It simply doesn't matter, I don't care, I'm sure none of this will matter and you'll be more experienced here. This is just one of the rough times I've gone through with people many times before. 😬

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
What would anyone except the two mentioned people agree with you on?

Plenty of things, I've been here longer and I'm moer experienced in the way the debates go.. my first post was simply that although G. Rugal isn't the sole purpose of the thread, he could beat Ryu. Everyone understood that and agreed. I'm sure not a Rugal fanboy, I like Akuma and Ryu much more and I've said they lost on several occasions.

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
All you're trying to do is make me seem like a fanboy, and pretty much nothing else.
If I've offended you I'm sorry, so I expect your backlash was because I upset you. I did not have that intent at first thoroughout the discussion. You kept refusing to see what I said so you kept adding stipulations, which made you look fanboyish. I don't have to show what people see. 😬

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
I did not get a pm from you either,
The pm I know I sent...

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
and I wasn't the one who brought up your name in the first place...
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
C master is annoying enough as he is.

You did just last night. πŸ˜•

Look I'm sure you're a cool guy and all, but perhaps it was just the wrong foot. Like I said I don't sit here all day going "man I just want to kill that guy", I think it's funny, like I pointed out before I did that long post. If I offended you really bad it was not my intent. People diss me all the time, and I just had to get used to it and laugh with it. It's the way your survive in this environment.

So if we're going to let it go, let's just let it go.

Fine with me.

I knew you had a good heart in ya. πŸ˜„

Ok, so we all bury the hatchet. And that means it's my turn. I was the one who brought up God Rugal. And since I also made the thread, I need to make something clear. I was trying to prove a point, and just show that DOA is outclassed. So in a sense, this was baiting. For which I apologize. I'm willing to admit the fully-equipped NG Ryu is pretty badass. But I still believe he loses to God Rugal. But.....he can beat Geese, Goenitz and a few others. Potentially anyway, he'd have to work for those victories. But he is capable of drawing or wining those fights.

Oh, and I'm sorry for labeling you as a fanboy. Even if your thinking Ryu can beat G. Rugal is nuts. πŸ˜› Good debate.

No, I was saying the Devil Incarnate can beat God Rugal. Ryu has wielded the Dark Dragon Blade before, so he can become the devil. I know it doesn't apply to the rules of this match, but I'm just saying.

Originally posted by Cloud_VII

- Ask anyone on here and see if they share your opinion.

- My main point was that he didn't wipe it out completely.

- Saying he could kill him isn't neccessarily saying that he would, since there are many possibilities.

- I agreed Rugal would have a better chance of winning against Ryu, especially in H2H combat.

- Strange, I though you said earlier that you've admitted SF Ryu would lose to NG Ryu.

- Seeing how Hiryu is the main protagonist of his game, a feat such as that would be relatively easy to find, and some of the things you said about DOA and NG are false, i.e., Ryu gets injured from falling off cliffs.

- Ask anyone on here and see if they share your opinions.

- I never said he did.

-Well then Rugal will definetly be able to kill Hayabusa then.

-Exactly, the debate is over.

- πŸ˜† I never said that.

- Hiryu being the protagonist has nothing to do with what inforamation you can find on the net. This also has nothing to do with this thread. You are running out of steam in this debate, aren't you?

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
I don't see how anyone can believe you when you provide no proof. Your argument is that the fight between Hiryu and the Grandmaster was so intense that it destroyed the moon, so wouldn't that be like saying Hiryu has planet-destroying durability? It makes much more sense to say that Meio destroyed the moon, and instead of telling me to PLAY THE F***ING GAME maybe we should ask anyone on here if they actually believe you, because I'm damn sure no one here will.
Heh...no one on here would argue against a game they have never seen. In fact, you may be the only person to do so. At least some one could argue if they played one game in the series, but you have played none. You haven't even played CVS2.

This is getting repetitive. πŸ™

Originally posted by Remulous
- Ask anyone on here and see if they share your opinions.

- I never said he did.

-Well then Rugal will definetly be able to kill Hayabusa then.

-Exactly, the debate is over.

- πŸ˜† I never said that.

- Hiryu being the protagonist has nothing to do with what inforamation you can find on the net. This also has nothing to do with this thread. You are running out of steam in this debate, aren't you?

Heh...no one on here would argue against a game they have never seen. In fact, you may be the only person to do so. At least some one could argue if they played one game in the series, but you have played none. You haven't even played CVS2.

This is getting repetitive. πŸ™


- So far S. Prime does. I can get 20 other people to side with me if I wanted to πŸ˜‰

- As Hayabusa is able to kill Rugal...

- I'd say an Omega Rugal has a 57% chance of winning whereas a fully-equipped Ryu has a 43% chance of winning, just to spare the argument.

- http://www.killermovies.com/forums/435001_1-ryu-vs-ryu-hayabusa. You and TP were the only ones here who said SF Ryu would win, so who were you saying earlier would lose to Hayabusa?

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I'm currently working on a Ryu hayabusa Respect thread.

You don't think it was Hiryu who destroyed the moon do you? That's why I brought up your name in my last post.