Originally posted by Cloud_VIIThe Torn Sky Blast isn't Nimpo, it's a move. Nimpo does have set limits. You can only upgrade them so far, Before they can be no longer upgraded. The one Hayabusa used in DOA 4 was Nimpo. The Hadou/chi becomes stronger as you become stronger. It is based off your own strength while Nimpo must be upgraded by trinkets and other little items.
G. Rugal versus H2H Hayabusa...well of course G. Rugal would win that.Energy-based techniques such as the Torn Sky Blast and the one Ryu does in DOA4 do not have set limits. Inazuma is a technique that allows Ryu to amplify his internal bioelectric current and blast it out to the surrounding area. Raidou overpowered Hayate with the Torn Sky Blast due to the fact Raidou exceeded Hayate in power and strength. In fact, Raidou would have become the most powerful ninja in the world had Kasumi not killed him out of rage.
Originally posted by Remulous
The Torn Sky Blast isn't Nimpo, it's a move. Nimpo does have set limits. You can only upgrade them so far, Before they can be no longer upgraded. The one Hayabusa used in DOA 4 was Nimpo. The Hadou/chi becomes stronger as you become stronger. It is based off your own strength while Nimpo must be upgraded by trinkets and other little items.
Another difference: use of "chi."
In this new version, Ryu would be able to channel his chi anytime he wishes, giving each move a little more punch. In the blue print are Ryu's sword moves, and the red print shows his power moves.
http://www.geocities.com/gamesterlair/NG4Ryu.html
This also has a connection with the fact that Ryu is able to manipulate his chi into balls of energy and channel it into his weapon when he's performing an ultimate technique. As for upgrading ninpo, each spell does have a limit. However, there are different ninpo spells with certain destructive and massive levels. Ninpo spells are always being created, and there will always be more powerful ones than what have been used before.
Re: Rugal Bernstein vs. Ryu Hayabusa
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Some of you have been heard to make the rediculous claim that Ryu Hayabusa can beat Terry Bogard. ๐So I'm gonna add to this and make it worse. ๐ I challenge the DOA fans to prove to me that Hayabusa can defeat the greatest boss in the history of KOF, Rugal Bernstein.
1st match: Straight H2H. No ki powers.
2nd match: Straight fight.
3rd match: Hayabusa gets his sword.
4th match: Same as above, but it's Omega Rugal.Ok, let's get ready to rumble. FIGHT!
1st match: Hayabusa, since Rugal has never displayed any real skill or anything that can match hayabusa.
2nd Match: Rugal after a difficult fight.
3rd match: Hayabusa 6/10 he barely wins
4th match: Rugal
Originally posted by Remulous
Rugal is stronger than the devil incarnate!
Re: Re: Rugal Bernstein vs. Ryu Hayabusa
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
1st match: Hayabusa, since Rugal has never displayed any real skill or anything that can match hayabusa.2nd Match: Rugal after a difficult fight.
3rd match: Hayabusa 6/10 he barely wins
4th match: Rugal
Bullshit!
EHHHHHHHH! Wrong. The correct answer is: Rugal, all 4 matches.
Without his damn plot device sword, he's not beating Rugal, EVER.
Re: Re: Re: Rugal Bernstein vs. Ryu Hayabusa
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
EHHHHHHHH! Wrong. The correct answer is: Rugal, all 4 matches.Without his damn plot device sword, he's not beating Rugal, EVER.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Rugal Bernstein vs. Ryu Hayabusa
Originally posted by StyleTime
You admit that Hayabusa wins with his sword, yet proceed to say that Hayabusa loses all 4 matches. In two of the aforementioned matches, Hayabusa wields his sword as you, the thread starter, stated. I need not point out the fallacy in logic here.
Ahem. Plot device sword. the TDS is the plot device sword. With just the dragon sword, he still dies.
Wait, did I give him the TDS? ๐ oops. ๐ฎ my bad. I still don't see how it'll help that much. I mean, it's not like he can hit Rugal with it, or dodge the SGS. ๐
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Rugal Bernstein vs. Ryu Hayabusa
Originally posted by TricksterPriest๐ You have to use a noncanonical version of Rugal against a canon Ryu just so that your boy rugal can win. If this was Ryu as the Devil Incarnate, any version of rugal would get curbstomped, smashed, obliterated, destroyed, and crushed. It's sad that you have to handicap characters you dislike just so the characters you jack off to could have a chance.
Ahem. Plot device sword. the TDS is the plot device sword. With just the dragon sword, he still dies.Wait, did I give him the TDS? ๐ oops. ๐ฎ my bad. I still don't see how it'll help that much. I mean, it's not like he can hit Rugal with it, or dodge the SGS. ๐
Noone had to use him, we were just arguing that he would win (because someone brought it up at that time). These threads should be specified more to prevent this.
All versions of Rugal are very powerful, and he can be used in the forum. Ultimately Rugal would still have a great deal more power without Satsui no Hado than Ryu would with no blade. ๐ฌ
It'sa real shame that Haya has never and will never be the Devil Incarnate, whereas G.Rugal atleast has been a playable, assessable character.
You have to speculate entirely on what Ryu's abilities would be as the Devil Incarnate, I could easily say he shits all over every fighting game character ever created, I have no proofof this, but nobody has any proof to the contrary... Thisis why the DevilIncarnate argument is never going tobe allowed.