Rugal Bernstein vs. Ryu Hayabusa

Started by Superboy Prime16 pages
Originally posted by Remulous
He contributed to destroying it. So are you telling me that being in a 1 on 1 fight with powers so intense that it destroyed a moon is not a powerful feat? Bottom line, Hayabua can't beat Strider. And this has nothing to do with the thread at hand.

It sounds good on paper, but it still doesn't mean Hiryu is capable of such power. One thing is being in a match that destroyed a 3rd moon and another is actually destroying the moon by his own hand/power. You will have to do better than that to convince me that Hiryu is going to beat Hayabusa.

The Strider characters enter during a sequence in the game where everyone winds up on the Third Moon. Your party encounters Hiryu and Hien facing off. Hien naturally tries to get Hiryu to turn to the dark side, but Hiryu just wants to kick his ass.

I respect that. Hien's such a scrub character.

Anyway. Hiryu and Hien fight, then midway through the battle, Solo shows up to inform everyone that the Third Moon is going to explode (of course), and all manner of mayhem breaks loose as everyone tries to escape. Hiryu joins the party after this, though he seems to have a bit of trouble deciding.

Grandmaster Meio shows up in the second-to-last sequence. Meio had discovered the defeated Rockman Juno and rebuilt him as part of a scheme to steal a huge energy crystal called "The God's Eye." The power of the "God's Eye" would then be used to take over Eden, the supercomputer space station from the Megaman Legends games. This is why Meio was willing to destroy The Third Moon earlier. Naturally, a trip to Eden was required in order to put a stop to these plans, and Hien, Meio, and the others were defeated.

http://www.lscmainframe.net/nxcgame.html

As the most powerful out of all of Hiryu's enemies, Grand Master Meio reigned supreme over the Russian government a few years back. Our database doesn't have much on him but it is said that he has come from outside the solar system. Possibly the Pixie system. He has the power to create and deconstruct anything, whenever he pleases. As he watched Earth from his moon base "The Third Moon", Meio had the power of a god. We don't know how Hiryu was able to stand up to a monster such as Meio, but one thing is for sure. Nobody would want to re-live the war between him and Earth.

http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Flats/8274/Rouges_Gallery.htm

TBH, Hiryu would draw with Hayabusa. That's because both are extraordinary ninjas.

Originally posted by Cloud_VII
- So far S. Prime does. I can get 20 other people to side with me if I wanted to πŸ˜‰

- As Hayabusa is able to kill Rugal...

- I'd say an Omega Rugal has a 57% chance of winning whereas a fully-equipped Ryu has a 43% chance of winning, just to spare the argument.

- http://www.killermovies.com/forums/435001_1-ryu-vs-ryu-hayabusa. You and TP were the only ones here who said SF Ryu would win, so who were you saying earlier would lose to Hayabusa?

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-Everyone arguing against Strider Hiryu owns no Strider merchandise Or even something featuring him, maybe except for the few that own MVC. No comic no nothing. No one knows anything about Strider, he isn't that popular around here. You find me a cite that has a detailed description of the Strider games PLOT, just talking about the plot.

-Not as able as Rugal.

-Possibly.

-That thread isn't even a page. Hardly no one participated. C Master, T. Priest , Snafu, and DSZ agree that in a hand to hand SF Ryu will defeat DOA Hayabusa.

Can anyone explain how after the final fight between Hiryu and Mieo the 3rd moon exploded. Maybe I jumped the gun saying he destroyed it on his own but the fact still remains, he contributed on doing so with ONE other guy.

I disagree about Ryu being capable of beating of beating DOA Hayabusa...unless you take away his stats from NG such as his speed etc.

@ Rem: Read what's above

@ S Prime: Remember Hayabusa can also use the ninpo spell he used in DOA4, if Ryu is allowed his hadouken...

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
I disagree about Ryu being capable of beating of beating DOA Hayabusa...unless you take away his stats from NG such as his speed etc.
You mean, the DOA version of Hayabusa, no sword no Nimpo, can beat Ryu? A hand to hand fight using nothing but the human body and chi.

Technically, Ryu's Inazuma allows him to amplify his internal bioelectric current and blast it out to the surrounding area...

That still can't compare to the Hadouken.

...? Fire Blasts, Lightning, Blizzards even fireballs capable of protecting Ryu...I'd choose Nimpo over Hadou any day of the week.

Nah, Gimme the Dark Hadou! πŸ˜†

Orochi power ftw. "Sono chikara mo watashi ga torikunde kuru." The first person to post a translation or identify the speaker gets mad props. 😎

Umm... It's either Orochi, Mizuchi, or Goenitz... Maybe Mukai... (Note: All boss characters with deeper than Rugal's connection to Orochi πŸ˜› )

BUT... I would be interested to know what would happed if you get an even mix of those two powers... Evil Orochi!

Haha. Ok, Darkstorm, you win. Being one of the vets on this board, it's obvious you know who said that quote. πŸ˜›

Dude, God Rugal and Shin Gouki ARE the mix of those 2 powers. Which is why CVS2 Shin Gouki is considered stronger than the normal Shin Gouki. And isn't Orochi overpowered enough as it is? πŸ˜‚

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
...? Fire Blasts, Lightning, Blizzards even fireballs capable of protecting Ryu...I'd choose Nimpo over Hadou any day of the week.
That's not chi, having Nimpo is like having a gun. Everyone has chi but evryone does not have nimpo. A 3 year old with Nimpo can be dangerous but it takes years of skills and practice to develop ones chi. I'll take the Hadou. At least my hadou limits will be based on my own strength and not be carried around like some cheap weapon. Nimpo has set limits, Hadou/chi does not.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Haha. Ok, Darkstorm, you win. Being one of the vets on this board, it's obvious you know who said that quote. πŸ˜›

Dude, God Rugal and Shin Gouki ARE the mix of those 2 powers. Which is why CVS2 Shin Gouki is considered stronger than the normal Shin Gouki. And isn't Orochi overpowered enough as it is? πŸ˜‚

Heh, too bad I had to cover the whole spectrum of the Prime Orochi bosses to get it... πŸ˜› I knew the quote sounded familiar, but I had forgotten who said it.

I know, but I'm talking at the levels of Orochi, rather than the miniscule fraction Rugal had.

Wait, so you bluffed me? Bastard. πŸ˜‚ I salute you. The quote translates to "I will seize your power." Rugal says it in his fight intro with Bison. It's a veiled reference to Rugal's secret ability, the one the SNK programmers had to scrap and only were able to utilize in CVS2. Rugal's power to copy the techniques of other fighters. It was originally planned to be used in KOF 94', but they ran out of memory storage, so they scrapped it and gave him moves from other bosses. Otherwise, how else could Rugal have gained the moves and techniques of Satsui no Hado? The God walk and Shun Goku Satsu are the proof.

Co-sign Rem. Chi abilities are potentially limitless, you can always build and increase your chi power. Compared to that, Nimpo is garbage.

I'm glad that it is agreed that G. Rugal would win the majority, even if some think that it is slight.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I'm glad that it is agreed that G. Rugal would win the majority, even if some think that it is slight.

G. Rugal versus H2H Hayabusa...well of course G. Rugal would win that.

Originally posted by Remulous
That's not chi, having Nimpo is like having a gun. Everyone has chi but evryone does not have nimpo. A 3 year old with Nimpo can be dangerous but it takes years of skills and practice to develop ones chi. I'll take the Hadou. At least my hadou limits will be based on my own strength and not be carried around like some cheap weapon. Nimpo has set limits, Hadou/chi does not.

Energy-based techniques such as the Torn Sky Blast and the one Ryu does in DOA4 do not have set limits. Inazuma is a technique that allows Ryu to amplify his internal bioelectric current and blast it out to the surrounding area. Raidou overpowered Hayate with the Torn Sky Blast due to the fact Raidou exceeded Hayate in power and strength. In fact, Raidou would have become the most powerful ninja in the world had Kasumi not killed him out of rage.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Co-sign Rem. Chi abilities are potentially limitless, you can always build and increase your chi power. Compared to that, Nimpo is garbage.

πŸ˜† You wouldn't know Hayabusa has that too. The Torn Sky Blast and the special technique Ryu does in DOA4 are energy-based moves as they are described. FYI, ninpo techniques can always be upgraded as long as there are jewels around.