I knew it would come to this, after the 3rd or 4th post you got scared of that ass-spanking and now you want to run. I can’t even count the number of things wrong with your flawed up post. You sit here and want to moan and ***** about me not knowing a character, but you’ve proven that you were the one wrong and destitute of knowledge, so now you say I’m arguing a dead argument on something you tried to defend? It takes TWO people to argue. The bottom line is you don’t know much about G. Rugal anyways and he has had very limited showings, so you can’t really give a description anyways, you haven’t listed much at all. You make great leaps of connection and fall short every time, you contradict yourself constantly. I go in another thread and read how you think weaker characters beat Ryu, but then you think G. Rugal can’t? Absurd.
I want to say you do this because you are new and you aren’t familiar with the forums, because even intense fans (like Remy) calm down at one point. But then again you seem to be about 15 years old. It will be worse if you tell me you are in your twenties or something because your logic and comprehension is poor. Honestly I don’t think you so bad, as you do try, but you are so biased that it becomes a pain to tell you anything.
Now sit back, because it’s that time for you to be owned… 😉
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
You know you pretty much described yourself,
Originally posted by Cloud_VIII’m just going by what you say, you sound like fool about something, therefore I assume you are one, you can’t really fault me for that. 🙂
and you're quite the fool for thinking I do not know much about Soul Calibur,
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
let alone the fact that I have admitted Nightmare would beat Devil Jin.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIThe one who argues for Ryu alone, pretty much all the time in spite of overwhelming evidence. *sigh *
Who's stroking genitals?
Originally posted by Cloud_VIISeeing how your logic is very skewed I wouldn’t make my guess worth a lot if I were you.
I would guess it's you.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIWhat haven’t I argued? It’s your job on your side to provide the evidence for your own damned character, didn’t you ask me to do the same damned thing? And not to mention that the Ninja Gaiden version isn’t even applicable in this match and you are still using it… tsk tsk, and you get on me for using “non-canon” which you are copping out of anyways.
You show that you know nothing of Ryu or Ninja Gaiden since you don't argue about it at all,
Originally posted by Cloud_VIII know Ryu has the Dark Dragon Blade which feeds on evil, and I know the True Dragon Blade is his most powerful weapon. I know he has magical abilities, and I know he doesn’t use the TDB in DOA, and I even know he has an alternate costume with just his face. He is a top tier character in those games, this has been mentioned and done, and it doesn’t remove the fact that he has been defeated by the female ninjas, and neither of those are more powerful than God Rugal to begin with.
whereas I can at least point out SF and KOF character powers and abilities.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
Nice try but try a little harder to prevail next time.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
On the contrary, I say he could take them.
On the contrary I say you contradict yourself far too much.
con·tra·dic·tion - Show Spelled Pronunciation[kon-truh-dik-shuh n] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. the act of contradicting; gainsaying or opposition.
2. assertion of the contrary or opposite; denial.
3. a statement or proposition that contradicts or denies another or itself and is logically incongruous.
4. direct opposition between things compared; inconsistency.
5. a contradictory act, fact, etc.
The fact of the matter is you make it look like he has little trouble with them, now lets see what the contradiction is below…
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
That's stating that he can hold his own
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
and I've yet to be told of an opponent from SF or KOF that is more powerful than the devil Incarnate.
This argument is a hypothetical match between the two known contenders where we compare and contrast their abilities against one another and determine a win. Your plot devices are illogical and thus they don’t count.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIAnd how would he beat Orochi? I’ll be waiting for your explanation on my desk after class.
Believe it as much as you want but there really isn't anyone from either series that can top his power.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIYou have ignored:
Just what have I been ignoring?
1. The rules: You continue to bring plot devices in play and Ninja Gaiden feats, which are not applicable by this match.
2. The argument that everyone else has brought along: by sideswiping said argument and asking for proof you have really only shown your ability as an escape artist and not a logical debator.
3. Common sense: Do you even read what you say? It doesn’t even make sense, you go and look up a quick site and you think that substitutes for true expertise on a subject, the argument in itself is absurd and not even worth a second thought, but since I’m so nice…
Originally posted by Cloud_VIII want to show you that you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about and your logic is so flawed that it makes quoting from point to point like this confusing.
You want to show me something that I think I should know?
Originally posted by Cloud_VIINo you’ve ignored them and made a copout to all of them and contented yourself for the fact that you have countered them, when in fact you’ve only gotten a spanking.
I've read all of your arguments up to this point and countered them all.
spank (spāngk) Pronunciation Key
v. spanked, spank·ing, spanks
v. tr.
To slap on the buttocks with a flat object or with the open hand, as for punishment.
v. intr.
To move briskly or spiritedly.
n. A slap on the buttocks.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIII’m pretty sure you’re wrong, because you haven’t listed anything about God Rugal really, you just realized you were wrong and then went and tried the non-cannon argument to get out of it.
I'm pretty sure that I know more about Rugal than you know about Ryu.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
If you know things about Rugal that you don't think are on Wikipedia, then why don't you go add some information about Rugal?
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIOh and as far as I’m concerned he was brought up way before I got here and you had no problem arguing him then, now you are just trying to use it as a copout to get out of your just ass spanking… but it’ll be ok, it’ll be over soon. This character is a video game character and can be used in this forum, you are just in the frustration that you can’t convince anyone your lover wins.
Oh, and as far as I'm concerned God Rugal is non canon so you're pretty much fighting a lost battle.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIYou will “site” here and argue, fanboys have always had problems with their rhetoric.
Yeah I will site here and argue with you until you'll concede,
Just because you keep responding doesn’t mean you have won, it simply means you are in denial.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIINo, you want to use an apparent “claim that I did not prove” as a crutch for the fact that you have no more ammunition to add into your argument, so by doing this you hope that everyone will notice that you are losing the actual debate. First it’s proof, then it’s claims, and now it’s “non-canon”. Don’t try it on me, I’m no newb my friend.
and I'm basically making you prove a claim that you made earlier, and still you have yet to.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
Wikipedia has a lot of knowledge actually,
Furthermore it is no place for real experience and knowledge with said media, just an overview. Do you think reading an article about Japan in wikipedia makes it just as much the knowledge as the person who has actually lived there? If so your logic is even more flawed and terrible then I had imagined.
Also several other sites (unless they are official sites) like www.capcom.com are often plagued with inaccurate information and inconsistencies. Their information is not always valid and should be read and treated with discretion.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
and that's not the only site that I read upon.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
If you were even listening, I said I knew a lot about the character
You say a lot, but…
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
once I finished reading all that was listed about the character, and you sit there and act like you know about Ninja Gaiden.
Man I even played Gaiden when it was on Nintendo about 20 years ago, don’t tell me what I do and don’t play… all that damned rooftop jumping.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIII wish you would take your own advice, and maybe then you wouldn’t look so bad. 😬
Please, listen to your own words.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIII really can’t wait to see this claim that pretty much everyone agrees with besides one deluded fanboy.
You from the start decided to make a claim which you seemingly can't prove,
Originally posted by Cloud_VIII am pointing out that you are getting owned pretty badly and it isn’t stopping anytime soon. 😉
and I'm just pointing that out.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
You sit there and think Rugal would win because in the game, he is so hard to beat and can be invulnerable,
hyp·o·crite - Show Spelled Pronunciation[hip-uh-krit] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, esp. a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.
2. a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, esp. one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.
[Origin: 1175–1225; ME ipocrite < OF < LL hypocrita < Gk hypokrit s a stage actor, hence one who pretends to be what he is not, equiv. to hypokr (nesthai) (see HYPOCRISY) + -tés agent suffix ]
—Related forms
hyp·o·crit·i·cal, adjective
hyp·o·crit·i·cal·ly, adverb
—Synonyms deceiver, dissembler, pretender, pharisee.
Why are you a hypocrite, do you ask?
You are the one using game mechanics in your argument, and not only that but the Ninja Gaiden game isn’t even in this argument. I never said that Rugal wins because he is “soo hard” I never mentioned his in-game difficulty, I can beat him fine, though he is a good opponent. I think he wins because he has powerful insta-kill moves and he can avoid attacks with ease, which is an argument that you initiated, so that makes you a hypocrite. Do you enjoy making yourself look bad all the time.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
and has attacks you think others can do nothing about.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
Have you said all that you could about Rugal?
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
Because if that's the case, then I pretty much countered everything.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
If you still have something up your sleeve, bring it.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
I have more knowledge about Ryu which you haven't been informed of yet.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIIt is good that you are trying but you are still biased and highly uninformed. You are the only one sitting here arguing something that everyone else has already noticed.
Also, what's funny is that you're criticizing me of "not knowing that much about a character" when I am at least trying to get information that I should know to be as least bias as possible,
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIMan you are stupid. I wasn’t even the first damned person on this thread to say that he would lose horribly against G. Rugal, I simply agreed with him. You are sitting here making more copouts as we go on. You disagreed THEN did research, which makes you a fanboy that automatically gives your character the benefit of the doubt too much in the first place.
whereas you just sit there on your ass and make claims that you apparently can't support.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIObviously I would imagine anyone who played here played more than 3 games, but that still isn’t a whole lot. But the most important part is the game you’ve said you’ve played doesn’t have the character in the debate in question. Shooting your credibility. Hell I own more games then that… a shitload more.
Let's see should I list all the games I've played...yesHalo 2
Soul Calibur II
Soul Calibur III
Budokai
Budokai 3
Kindgom Hearts
Kingdom Hearts II
Street Fighter II Turbo
Street Fighter II Turbo Revival
Street Fighter Alpha 3
Ninja Gaiden Black
Tekken 3
Tekken 4
Tekken 5
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy X-2
Dead or Alive 2
Dead or Alive 3
Dead or Alive 4
Devil May Cry
Devil May Cry 3
MGS 3
Gears of War
Everything or Nothing
Batman Returns
The Godfather
GTA: San Andreas
GTA: Liberty Stories
Zelda: Link's Awakening
Pokemon Red
Pokemon Gold
Pokemon Ruby
Super Mario Smash Bros. Melee
Fight Night
Ultimate Spiderman
Super Mario World 1 & 2
Baiten Kaitos
Onimusha 3
Parasite Eve
Samurai Champloo
Oblivion
Tomba 2
WWF SmackdownThat's not all of them.
[sarcasm]Yeah, I only play those 3 games.[/sarcasm]
Just games I own…
Pokemon Red
TMNT: Fall of the Foot Clan
RaceCars
Quarth
Tetris
Sonic Chaos
Sonic the Hedgehog (gamegear)
Shinobi(gamegear)
Spiderman and the Sinister Six (gamegear)
Golden Axe
Revenge of Draconis
Columns
Sonic the HedgeHog
Sonic 2
Sonic 3
Sonic & Knuckles
Streets of Rage 3
Cyborg Justice
Shinobi 3
Crossfire
Smash TV
Aladdin
Battletoads and Double Dragon
TMNT Through Time
Battletoads SNES
Mario All Stars
Super Mario World
Killer Instinct
Kirby Super Star
Power Rangers
Power Rangers the movie
Power Rangers VS
Clay Fighter 63 1/3
Spiderman and Venom: Maximum Carnage
Spiderman and Venom: Seperation Anxiety.
I’m only on SNES and you are already losing.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
Because it shows what he's capable of, and that's like saying why does it matter that Rugal can beat a plain Akuma.
Stop using plot devices.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
Pretty much you said Rugal has the ability to teleport well so does Murai, and he has some moves where he's invulnerable,
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIBison has pretty much destroyed the world and Akuma beat him… you just love your feat wars.
yet Ryu overcame him in the end.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIYou moron, I wasn’t even the first person to bring it up. I was agreeing, and if you are going to argue against a character that you don’t know about, then backpedal and make an excuse, it shows that you are wrong.
If you're using a non canonical character to prove a point, then you have lost this battle even before it's begun.
G. Rugal has been used in threads before. And S. Gouki hasn’t ever really been “S. Gouki” in terms of the character in storyline, but he’s applicable as well. You’re the one mixing feats regardless.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
Non canonical evidence is that right?
You can’t do that.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
Well you can dramatize all you want about "God" Rugal and what he can do, since it wouldn't matter either way.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIBecause a 15 year old newb says so… oh boy… You don’t know me, and you’ve only seen me post a handful of times, but you have the ignorant audacity to say I’m a Rugal fanboy… I guess it’s all you have to fall back on though, isn’t it?
You can go to bed and fantasize about Rugal beating Ryu because until you provide evidence of your argument, Rugal ain't winning the match.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIMan you still argued it when other people said the same thing, AND you gave him illegal stipulations, like you are trying to do now. Do you see how dense you can be?
If you don't think I'll "budge", keep in mind that in the Nightmare versus Devil Jin thread, I was convinced DJ would not win someone who I was initially sided on, and said that he would lose.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIYep.
Can you still say that I'm not going to think Ryu would lose no matter what the outcome of this fight would be?
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
Yeah, as far as I can see, as much as you'll be proved wrong here,
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
you're still going to say Rugal wins and make shit up,
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIBecause you’re going to cling on that because you really have no other argument to use.
and to think that I was going to let you use some non canon shit on me. Pathetic.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
You didn't get it. I said it does not take time to do it as in he doesn't take time thinking about where he's going to teleport. For instance, if he saw a sniper bullet coming at him, he would know where to teleport and would teleport out of the way, and appear in another spot instantly. He doesn't recover from it meaning there is no remobilization time, meaning he could keep acting the instant he appears in that other spot. Get it now?
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
Goenitz and Kusanagi, and possibly more.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIISounds like denial to me, or else you would have explained the move and then explained how he would overcome it. But I bet you’ll have to go look it up on another site won’t you?
Yeah I actually know what it is and you don't know how Ryu can avoid it/overcome it.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIIt was you my friend, you were going on about how he cannot be hit, and I’m now being obtuse until you change that, it’s called fighting fire with fire.
Umm...hello? Who was the first to claim something like that me or you? =*Checks back*
Originally posted by Cloud_VIII was definitely claiming he can warp as long as it takes to hit him, you were the one claiming that your character couldn’t get hit in the first palces by plot devices, and limited Techniques not even specified in the thread.
Yeah, it was definitely you who were claiming God Rugal is invulnerable and can stay that way indefinitely,
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIA copout followed by a wetdream. Man you sure do contradict yourself a lot in one statement.
well just to burst your bubble I'm to mention once again that the version of Rugal you're using is non canon, as well as the fact Ryu is capable of being unhittable,
Not realizing that you have brought illegal factors into your argument.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIISo why in the hell do characters like Hayate give him problems?
due to his ability to vanish and appear wherever and whenever he wishes.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
Those abilities were displayed in the DOA games. Now you might ask the question, "why then does he get hit in the games?".
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
To tell you the truth, it wouldn't be cinch to kill Nightmare and Dante in the story, but in-game, they have a short health bar that depletes away whenever an opponent hits them with something, being that a sword or a pair of nunchuks.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
If Ryu willed it, he would never be touched by his opponent.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIStop copping out please, I’m talking about his Heavenly blast attacks.
Check back where have this countered already. Ryu does not spend his energy teleporting and God Rugal is non canon.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIIn which you will fail in horribly.
I won't prove that he didn't but I'll prove you wrong nonetheless:
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIExcuse me, Gouki didn’t even use that technique into SF3, that was speculation on the authors behalf. He didn’t use that technique until he destroyed Ayers rock and then he went and sought to learn the Misogi. But all of this is irrelevant because he did that feat when he wasn’t serious.
Ryu eventually found Akuma's island (known as Onigami Isle or the Gokuentou) and challenged him. The intense battle that followed ended in a draw; Akuma was impressed as this was the closest he had come to a defeat yet. Telling Ryu to find him again when he had embraced the Satsui no Hadou, Akuma struck his island with a powerful blow (The Kongou Kokuretsu-Zan) and disappeared. The island fell apart around Ryu, who was left in the ocean to contemplate Akuma's words.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIBut your point is irrelevant because it’s still power that allowed him to do it… And it is done by the manipulation of Ki… Akuma’s Messatsu Gou Hado is extremely strong as well. Hell Ryu was breaking tidal waves. Bottom line is Akuma manipulates his chi to have the same striking force as characters who would be in the 100 ton class by Marvel.
I know it's a technique. I'm just saying that if he didn't have the technique, or a move of that sort he wouldn't be able to do it.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIAnd you are side tracking because Hulk could lift one and Akuma could beat him…if he didn’t have great physical strength (like when he sank a sub or went underwater) then why did his bones remain intact? This doesn’t take away from the feat and it’s still applicable in a fight, furthermore you are being hypocritical using magicial items in a match if that’s the case. Take those away and Ryu’s done for.
Now if it said something like Akuma lifted a mountain by his sheer strength then that's a whole nother story, as I gave the example of Feng Wei shattering a mountain with his fist after achieving the God Fist.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
He does not have the strength to lift a mountain up.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIBecause he manipulates his inner energy(that being ki) to do so, it isn’t a hard concept and you aren’t going to take away from it. His power up fireball would be enough to do the same thing. Ryu probably could do that at this point. (SF).
Point is, you came to the conclusion that because Akuma destroyed an island, he can manipulate his ki and make island destroying blasts of energy.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIYou mean like…
Do not lower the debate to IFs.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
If Ryu willed it, he would never be touched by his opponent.
Sounds like you’re just a hypocrite to me.
hyp·o·crite - Show Spelled Pronunciation[hip-uh-krit] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, esp. a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.
2. a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, esp. one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.
[Origin: 1175–1225; ME ipocrite < OF < LL hypocrita < Gk hypokrit s a stage actor, hence one who pretends to be what he is not, equiv. to hypokr (nesthai) (see HYPOCRISY) + -tés agent suffix ]
—Related forms
hyp·o·crit·i·cal, adjective
hyp·o·crit·i·cal·ly, adverb
—Synonyms deceiver, dissembler, pretender, pharisee.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIILook my friend, this happened back in Alpha two, even Ryu has much more power than that now, and his attacks are fireballs which are much more lethal. Akuma wasn’t even at his full power nor serious. That is my conclusion. Your conclusion is he can’t because you don’t want him to.
Point is you were coming to the conlusion that Akuma destroyed an island with his sheer strength so that must mean he can create energy blasts of the same destructive power, when he never did.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
In fact, all of those great feats were done by techniques.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIIf it’s part of his power and he can use it normally then he can.. but if you are going to go the “Devil Jin needs more souls” route, then don’t bother. 🙄
Yes I said it techniques. Give the God Fist to Feng Wei and he can do what Akuma did.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
It's a reasonable argument so why not use it?
Because a plot device doesn’t go with the specifications of the thread and they are what all characters have when they “overcome something more powerful”. Dammit ALL heroes overcome something more powerful, so I could play the featwar game with you and list all of the more powerful people that a character has beaten and wing it up so that character seems unbeatable.
For example: Ryu and Kyo beat Orochi, so anyone who Orochi beats Kyo and Ryo beat, because they beat him.
It’s piss poor logic.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIIt must be nice living in a world with delusions, or maybe you aren’t dense…
Is it because you can't come up with something better to say than that? Yeah...
–adjective, dens·er, dens·est.
1. having the component parts closely compacted together; crowded or compact: a dense forest; dense population.
2. stupid; slow-witted; dull.
3. intense; extreme: dense ignorance.
4. relatively opaque; transmitting little light, as a photographic negative, optical glass, or color.
5. difficult to understand or follow because of being closely packed with ideas or complexities of style: a dense philosophical essay.
6. Mathematics. of or pertaining to a subset of a topological space in which every neighborhood of every point in the space contains at least one point of the subset.
[Origin: 1590–1600; < L dénsus thick; c. Gk dasýs ]
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–noun
1. an act or instance of deluding.
2. the state of being deluded.
3. a false belief or opinion: delusions of grandeur.
4. Psychiatry. a fixed false belief that is resistant to reason or confrontation with actual fact: a paranoid delusion.
If you don’t think you aren’t owned now then you need help, you shouldn’t even come back to KMC after this unless you are going to stick to “rate my sig” threads.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIHave you bothered researching it even if it is?
From what I've heard, one of those feats are not canon.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIIf they are illegal to the thread, why bother? DOA and Ninja Gaiden are two different games, so stop picking feats.
If you ask for proof of feats, I would be more than willing to show it.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
Anyways, prove Bison can destroy a planet.
Bison has tons of technology wired around the world that allows him to channel up massive amounts of power and destroy the planet. He was doing it in Alpha 3 when he had the psycho drive.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIICopout.
No non canon shit please.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIHe manipulated his ki therefore it’s applicable. And you were the one who sidetracked the debate first by bringing other characters in. At least Akuma is part of God Rugal.
Can you read? I didn't say he was unable to do it. I said that he used a special technique to do it, not just a punch, and this isn't about Akuma now is it? No, it's about Rugal.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
G. Rugal is non canon so this argument is pretty much over.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
- I don't care; I'll still make a point.
A poor one that won’t let you realize how bad you’ve been owned…
Originally posted by Cloud_VIINow you are going to try and go cover your ass, pathetic.
- - You're making up bullshit now since I never said that genius.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIAlong with everyone else, and that claim is pretty obvious and simple to understand. I am not trying to be intentionally ambiguous like you and swap the interpretation when someone reads something the way I want it read. (I.E it’s making me look bad). That’s what you do.
This coming from the person who inititially said from the beginning Ryu isn't beating Rugal.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIWell seeing as you’re known for contradictory, delusional, and hypocritical comments, well….
If anyone, you're being the arrogant and hypocritical person right now.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIAnd therefore that amount hasn’t been shown which means it’s a broad claim and can’t be used to steer the debate forward, it is just something to drool over. Just because something can’t be comprehended by man doesn’t make it end all and be all, it just means we haven’t comprehended it yet. Everything is possible and not necessarily probable, and the effect depends on the mastery, and not just the said item/character/technique.
Well it is a fact, and if it's power is indeed unfathomable, then it isn't comprehendable.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
Just don't argue with what a company makes.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIAnd this is what I mean about being intentionally ambiguous and swapping the interpretation.
I said it could kill just about anyone and there are a lot of exlusives there.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
I could've meant just about everyone in his league or below.
Definition on ambiguous…
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–adjective
1. open to or having several possible meanings or interpretations; equivocal: an ambiguous answer.
2. Linguistics. (of an expression) exhibiting constructional homonymity; having two or more structural descriptions, as the sequence Flying planes can be dangerous.
3. of doubtful or uncertain nature; difficult to comprehend, distinguish, or classify: a rock of ambiguous character.
4. lacking clearness or definiteness; obscure; indistinct: an ambiguous shape; an ambiguous future.
[Origin: 1520–30; < L ambiguus, equiv. to ambig(ere) be uncertain (amb- AMBI- + -igere comb. form of agere to drive, lead, act) + -uus deverbal adj. suffix; see -OUS ]
Don’t be intentionally obscure to try and save your ass later.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
On the other hand, you said Rugal can beat just about any fighter.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
You think he could beat Dragonball Z characters? It would be pretty fanboyish to say that.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
All I'm going to say is that you just owned yourself there.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
All of the cast? No. Do not twist words.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIWhat you say and what we see are totally two different things.
Most of the characters' capabilities have been revealed before then, and I had a good amount of knowledge on SF's top tiers,
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
from people I've talked with here and online sources. To think site like Wikipedia and answers.com do not give enough information on Street Fighter and KOF is bullshit.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIII read some of wikipedia, but I don’t linger on the sites, because I play the games and I know what I’m talking about in a game forum. Your logic is so skewed that it is making my eyes hurt, like your typing.
You have not told me anything that was not on their, so you're basically showing that you're ignorant about what is even listed on the site articles.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
Oh, and it's fanboyish to claim Ryu loses to a KOF fighter when it's obvious you don't now that much about him, so I guess that must mean you're a fanboy.
You’re just getting tore up today.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
It just came right back at ya huh..
Yes I forgot that some people can’t detect sarcasm, much less follow trains of thought.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
To begin with G. Rugal isn't f***in canon.
Running to the same copout, tell me, why did you bother replying to this.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
Alright and how do you know Hayabusa would lose?
Rugal is more powerful. Especially with the stipulations listed in the matchup, which as usual you seem to ignore.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIYea in fanboy land, Bison warps Bison does overkill Psycho Crusher and Ryu is turned into bits and sent to you in the mail.
Ryu would dodge as usual and use the True Dragon Sword to slice Mr. Bison to bits.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIISF and KOF characters have fought Godlike chars. DOA is a bit lower overall then SF.
Ayane can destroy a tritower complex and she's in a leage below Hayabusa's.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIBut could he take a Seraphic Wing? Go ahead and say he’ll dodge it or something. 😆
Don't know whether you're referring to Bison or not but meteors aren't something new to Ryu.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIBut these aren’t meteors raining from the sky with control are they? Are they an omnidirectional blast that won’t miss? Rugal was making huge blasts out of nowhere.
He's fought hellspawns that originated from meteors and takes attacks that are equally as damaging with ease.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIIf you did you wouldn’t have went there in the first place. 😆
No you didn't. Tell me by reading the Wikipedia and Answers.com articles on Rugal isn't knowing much about him.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIEveryone doesn’t go around putting things on wiki. Not to mention things get changed and edited on wiki all the time, I know because I’ve done extensive articles on several games. Some things have to be seen and not simply read.
If you claim there are people who know much more about him, then why aren't they putting that info on wiki?
Originally posted by Cloud_VIISo you read all this stuff when you first argued against G. Rugal or did you give Hayabusa the benefit of the doubt and say he won, then scrambled for answers?
How I see it, you're just making an excuse to make it seem like I don't know my stuff.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
I've read all that I've could about Rugal and so far pretty much everything you've said about him were things I've read upon.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIWhy do I need to go prove that I know what I’m talking about to myself? 🤨
Go read the articles for yourself to stumble upon things you've already stated.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIOn the net, but… not on the GAME. For ****’s sake is it that hard to understand?
Alright...I was saying that he can win and I know pretty much everything there is to know about Rugal on the net. Go read the articles for yourself to stumble upon things you've said already.
Must be.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIBy posting a definition of what you’re doing. That’s screwing up? Man you make this too easy…
Nice to see you are unable to prove a point. I know you were going to screw up sooner or later.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIYou want me to defend Tina? Doesn’t even make sense.
Ok...so should I give this two after you ask me..perhaps...how would M. Bison not stand a chance against Tina?
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIHe doesn’t stand a chance in H2h if characters like Hayate give him problems man! Why does it hurt you to say you are wrong. Are you a woman?
To say he doesn't stand a chance against Rugal is underrating him. I apologize but it's true. He's not being overrated if only facts are stated about him and nothing else.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIII don’t know you seem to think he is unhittable and will dodge everything. You are on par with Master Chief and Wolverine fanboys now…
And just what made you come to that conclusion?
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIhaha, Rugal is far from one of my favorite characters.
Just because I'm a fan of him doesn't mean that I obsess about him, and by saying he doesn't stand a chance at all against Rugal is pretty much showing how much you're fond of bernstein.
If I say Hayabusa loses to Superman does that make me fond of him to the point where I jack off to his posters?
Originally posted by Cloud_VIINo, but I wouldn’t sit and ask you to prove everything so I can use it as a scapegoat.
So would you like me making claims and not proving it even though you disagree with them?
Originally posted by Cloud_VIII’m going to use yours and say you don’t know what you’re talking about. I mean that is your gig right. Should I ask for you to prove it too?
I am going to use your favorite tactic and say that you're just asking that to stall when you apparently know nothing about the other side.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIBy saying he beats the cast of the characters, and stands a chance in H2H against a character that is on a relative level to Shin Akuma.
Show me where I've overhyped him because I'm really starting to put up with bull.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
Take your own advice.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIAs fanatical as a savoring, drooling, Wolverine fanboy from straight out of the comic versus forums… but at least you try.
Fanatic as what?
Originally posted by Cloud_VIII’m pointing out that the “less favored” always have some fanatic who goes on to try to make characters more than they are to put them in a good light. It’s called counterproductive.
I'm just pointing out not that much people favor DOA here because they're mostly ignorant about it.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIII don’t think you understand that they aren’t perfect, and don’t substitute for actual gameplay.
I don't think you understand that Wikipedia and answers.com has much more information than you think.
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIBut don’t defend until you are fully aware, instead of giving your side the benefit of the doubt because you feel we are underrating your character, that makes you look more fanboyish than anything.
And yet again I will mention that I try to learn everything that I can on the other side instead of just researching one side,
Originally posted by Cloud_VIIIsn’t it my job to argue for my character in the particular match specified? Or is it by your skewing of logic that I’m supposed to argue your character for you?
and all you're doing is arguing for Rugal and I'm simply defending.
Originally posted by Cloud_VII
You stated in the beginning Ryu isn't beating Rugal, and had I have countered that by saying Rugal isn't beating Ryu, you would've still brought this argument to this point.
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😱 Wow.......... *stands up and claps* Bravo C-master. That was the greatest owning of a fanboy I've ever seen. For the record, I was letting him argue the Gaiden feats separately. but you're right, Gaiden is not part of the original match. 2nd, wasn't it stated that S. Gouki in CvS2 was more powerful than normal S. Gouki because of the Orochi power?
The problem with trying to be 'fair' is, at what point do you stop? At some point, you just have acknowledge some people are just outclassed or that there's a higher level. Case in point: this thread, my Anubis Vs. Sephiroth thread, Thanos vs. Despero, etc. Cloud, just walk away. you've lost, badly. God Rugal destroys Hayabusa, period. Accept it.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestI figured you had let him do it, but if he's going to bring the non-canon crap up, he should at least follow the rules...
😱 Wow.......... *stands up and claps* Bravo C-master. That was the greatest owning of a fanboy I've ever seen. For the record, I was letting him argue the Gaiden feats separately. but you're right, Gaiden is not part of the original match. 2nd, wasn't it stated that S. Gouki in CvS2 was more powerful than normal S. Gouki because of the Orochi power?The problem with trying to be 'fair' is, at what point do you stop? At some point, you just have acknowledge some people are just outclassed or that there's a higher level. Case in point: this thread, my Anubis Vs. Sephiroth thread, Thanos vs. Despero, etc. Cloud, just walk away. you've lost, badly. God Rugal destroys Hayabusa, period. Accept it.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
No no. I said Omega Rugal did that. Do you understand you are saying that Hayabusa is more powerful than the entire KOF 95' if he can beat Omega Rugal, let alone God Rugal? If the entire KOF 95' cast couldn't stop him, then you are claiming Hayabusa is more powerful. So yes, the A>B>C logic does work here. Do you know how hard it is do something like that? The sheer power and skill needed? This is why Rugal is rivaled with Gouki. Because he's the only KOF boss (outside of Orochi 🙄 who comes close to Gouki's insane power.
For the record in hand to hand Ryu has no business with Omega/Ultra/God/Uber Rugal. I am no claiming anything. Don't get me wrong. I do believe it would be actually easier to take on one opponent, a powerful one like God Rugal, then to take on an entire roster of characters. That's just the way I see it.
Originally posted by Superboy PrimeI can understand that logic but I would rather fight Kyo and the gang rather than one Rugal. He will destroy his opponents quite quickly compared to the hole group.
For the record in hand to hand Ryu has no business with Omega/Ultra/God/Uber Rugal. I am no claiming anything. Don't get me wrong. I do believe it would be actually easier to take on one opponent, a powerful one like God Rugal, then to take on an entire roster of characters. That's just the way I see it.
Originally posted by Remulous
I can understand that logic but I would rather fight Kyo and the gang rather than one Rugal. He will destroy his opponents quite quickly compared to the hole group.
Yeah, but in the end he will self destruct. So this will be my strategy:
1) Piss him off.
2) Tell him he is a pussy.
3) Run like hell.
3) Pray he self destructs before he gets to me.
4) Either a) successful in avoiding G.R. long enough to watch him self destruct and brag, or b) get myself decimated, thorn to shreds and desintegrated.