Rugal Bernstein vs. Ryu Hayabusa

Started by TricksterPriest16 pages

Hence, Kyo does not deserve credit for that victory. 😛 Sorry, just had to get that out of my system. For the record, I'm damn sure Omega Rugal was far stronger than Goenitz. Hell, I think Rugal (post losing his eye) was stronger than Goenitz.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
Yeah, but in the end he will self destruct. So this will be my strategy:

1) Piss him off.
2) Tell him he is a pussy.
3) Run like hell.
3) Pray he self destructs before he gets to me.
4) Either a) successful in avoiding G.R. long enough to watch him self destruct and brag, or b) get myself decimated, thorn to shreds and desintegrated.

😆 I see you are a very strategic guy.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Hence, Kyo does not deserve credit for that victory. 😛 Sorry, just had to get that out of my system. For the record, I'm damn sure Omega Rugal was far stronger than Goenitz. Hell, I think Rugal (post losing his eye) was stronger than Goenitz.
unfortunatly, Kyo does not deserve credit for any of his victories, still badass though

It widely depends, when fighting more guys, you have more guys to worry about. But there is only so much they can do at one time without the risk of hurting one another... that's why a guy who can warp all over the place is quite scary...

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
It widely depends, when fighting more guys, you have more guys to worry about. But there is only so much they can do at one time without the risk of hurting one another... that's why a guy who can warp all over the place is quite scary...
Hell yeah, Not only can he warp he's got several instant death moves. At least if there are other warriors you will last longer and can slowly pick them off. One Rugal like warrior will instantly kill you.

Actually, even running won't work. Omega Rugal self-destructed, God Rugal didn't. So you're screwed. 😛 Agreed, Kyo is badass. But he still gets his ass kicked by Iori. Btw, people seem to forget or underrate the fact that he has the Shun Goku Satsu. I did a little research and compared the damage from the SGS users. Evil Ryu, Gouki, God Rugal, and Shin Gouki. Here's how they rank.

Damage.
1. S. Gouki
2. God Rugal
3. Gouki
4. E. Ryu

And the difference between S. Gouki and G. Rugal is less than 500 damage points. Which isn't much. Of course, S. Gouki has the high speed full screen version, but because of the nature of the move, it's better used for the Raging demon warp trap. Which I'll explain later.

Edit: Had to look it up. Ok, here's how the Raging demon warp trap works. As everyone knows, the Ashura Senkuu, God Walk, etc, are totally invulnerable. What some people don't know, is you can set up the shun goku satsu from a warp. You see, the SGS has a property called any-move-cancel. if you do the button combo for the SGS, it will instantly go to the SGS, regardless of move cooldown or whether you're doing a move. Any normal move can canceled into the SGS. So....warp next to your opponent, wait till you're close, then do the SGS. Instant switch to the move, grab, good game. And that my friends, is the raging demon warp trap. You like? It's something I found while I was looking up tournament level tactics.

Yea their damage isn't all that much a huge difference, but they are all deadly... S. Gouki's still rules, though oddly enough it does alot less damage then you'd expect...

True, Misogi is by far the highest damaging super in the game. Btw, did you read the edited section?

Yes, it is the highest damaging one and it comes out fast. And I love the raging warp, it's the best way to wtfpwn someone...

Ungodly difficult to do though. The SGS is the one move I can't seem to do. I can do the raging storm (intermitenly, also damn hard to do), the ya otome, the power geyser, and even the deadly rave, but I can't seem to get the Shun Goku satsu.

Yeah Geese's raising storm is nasty. They changed it so you have to input the action in 1.5 seconds or so, so it's quite nasty. I would just practice by going on survival with infinite health and energy and using the move over and over. It comes out fine for me. How do you have your buttons set up? Are youdoing light punch and kick with your thumbs or index fingers?

I'm using my thumbs and just trying to do 2 half circles quickly. 1.5 seconds is the time? Nuts. standard config. I've tried practicing in practice mode, but I can never get it off against my brother, who plays a very mean Shotokan.

I use index except for strong.

It's LpLP both on index, forward lk on index, and sqaure for thumb.
LP is R1 and LK is L1...

I find it fastest that way...

Originally posted by TricksterPriest

And the difference between S. Gouki and G. Rugal is less than 500 damage points. Which isn't much. Of course, S. Gouki has the high speed full screen version, but because of the nature of the move, it's better used for the Raging demon warp trap. Which I'll explain later.

Edit: Had to look it up. Ok, here's how the Raging demon warp trap works. As everyone knows, the Ashura Senkuu, God Walk, etc, are totally invulnerable. What some people don't know, is you can set up the shun goku satsu from a warp. You see, the SGS has a property called any-move-cancel. if you do the button combo for the SGS, it will instantly go to the SGS, regardless of move cooldown or whether you're doing a move. Any normal move can canceled into the SGS. So....warp next to your opponent, wait till you're close, then do the SGS. Instant switch to the move, grab, good game. And that my friends, is the raging demon warp trap. You like? It's something I found while I was looking up tournament level tactics.

Awe thanks for the info dude! But for some reason I can not preform a Shungokusatsu in that game. Maybe I'm pressing the buttons too fast?

for some reason I can not preform a Shungokusatsu in that game. Maybe I'm pressing the buttons too fast?

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amateurs.....

~The Expert Invincible Sado-sama

Originally posted by Sado22
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amateurs.....

~The Expert Invincible Sado-sama

What system do you have the game for? My X box remotes are kinda broke.

Oh shit you have the xbox version? Dude, that's the crap one. Get the PS2 version. The xbox and cube versions are broken as hell.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Oh shit you have the xbox version? Dude, that's the crap one. Get the PS2 version. The xbox and cube versions are broken as hell.
I heard the PS2 version has some kind of invincible roll tactic?

Ah yes, the roll cancel. Let me clue you in. Without that, the game isn't as fun at high levels. it actually evens the game out a good deal at the tournament level. The roll cancel has a window of 5/60ths of a second in which you can perform it. So don't worry too much. It gives 17-21 frames of invincibility, but like I said, because of the nature of the technique and the narrow window, you're not likely to encounter anyone who knows of it or can execute it. The xbox not only lacks this, but the EO system completely ruins the game. It lets you do any move you want with a simple tap of the analog stick. Utter dreck.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Ah yes, the roll cancel. Let me clue you in. Without that, the game isn't as fun at high levels. it actually evens the game out a good deal at the tournament level. The roll cancel has a window of 5/60ths of a second in which you can perform it. So don't worry too much. It gives 17-21 frames of invincibility, but like I said, because of the nature of the technique and the narrow window, you're not likely to encounter anyone who knows of it or can execute it. The xbox not only lacks this, but the EO system completely ruins the game. It lets you do any move you want with a simple tap of the analog stick. Utter dreck.
The roll cancel, eh? dan would be pretty good at that. The EO stands for easy operation but it is actually harder that way. you can't preform normal attacks unless they're high punch and kick and you can't do special moves manually.

Hence why it's garbage. A system like that destroys the essential qualities of the game and removes the ability to combo or use the full extent of the gameplay. I should also mention that the gameplay on the cube version was buggy as hell. Since the xbox game is also EO, I believe it to be similarly afflicted.