I actually think what happened to Christians for over a thousand years is probably the worst genocide ever. Although every branch in its own way is responsible for some war crime of its own.
Really the Mexican War has led to the most drama in American History. What those red necks did to people who had nothing to do with them is downright criminal.
Now I am an American. But even I realize what happened to Mexico is wrong. At one time it was a place of strength and beauty with some of the mightiest civilizations on Earth.
Then the Spanish decide to come and steal the people's land, resources and raping the indigenous people. The people who were born there were oppressed by the Spanish "much worse then the colonies were by the King of England" so they fought back and took their freedom.
Once they were free the United States invaded their country by slowly immigrating their and becoming citizens. However they refused to learn spanish, free their slaves and fit into the society that the Holy Roman Empire had set up for well over a thousand years.
It pisses me off when people ***** about Mexicans coming into the United States and refusing to learn English and slowly taking over by actually having children. Their offspring become citizens and they take back the land that was originally theirs to begin with.
The US and Santa Anna are the worst part of our history.
Originally posted by Cosmo KramerIf they stopped before Oklahoma and Oregon borders, I'd totally agree with you.
It pisses me off when people ***** about Mexicans coming into the United States and refusing to learn English and slowly taking over by actually having children. Their offspring become citizens and they take back the land that was originally theirs to begin with.
I actually do feel that African American people are right to be upset, they should forever be upset. If All of your Ancestors were bought, and dragged across the waters to live as slaves, not allowed to exist for any other reason, unless you were a female slave, which slave owners used so that they could "Breed" more slaves adding to their Wealth.
And keep in mind that the women had no choice, they were Raped.
Who wouldnt be upset?
Originally posted by Penelope
I actually do feel that African American people are right to be upset, they should forever be upset.
Why does it have to be about race at all? We're all human here. It was a horrible thing for one human to do to another. Kidnapping and holding in slavery against someone's will is wrong no matter which race you are.
Originally posted by Tangible God
Maybe he means the early Roman persecutions.
I would hardly call that one of the worst genocide's in history. If you could even classify it as such, most historians believe that the death toll amongst Christians in that time was heavily overrated, and it certainly does not come close to anything Christians did later on in the existence of the religion.
It also has very little to do with "African American" slavery at all.
Why does it have to be about race at all? We're all human here. It was a horrible thing for one human to do to another. Kidnapping and holding in slavery against someone's will is wrong no matter which race you are.
Completely agree with this.
Originally posted by FishyHuh, didn't know that. Then maybe the Turks slaughter of Christians then. At least I think it was the Turks.
I would hardly call that one of the worst genocide's in history. If you could even classify it as such, most historians believe that the death toll amongst Christians in that time was heavily overrated, and it certainly does not come close to anything Christians did later on in the existence of the religion.It also has very little to do with "African American" slavery at all.
Originally posted by Tangible God
Huh, didn't know that. Then maybe the Turks slaughter of Christians then. At least I think it was the Turks.
What slaughter are you talking about specifically here? Nothing springs to mind.
Should I still be upset about persecution of my ancestors (the Irish) by the English?
Only if it will get you a lot of money.
Originally posted by Tangible God
It was 1.5 million Christians somewhere in and around Istanbul, but by who and when escapes me.I'm Scottish, should I blame all English people for their persecution of Scots centuries ago? I won't because I don't like to dwell on the past as a means of getting attention.
The killing of the Orthodox inhabitants of Constantinople could be it... I believe the Ottomans (Turks) killed a lot of Christians back when they conquered that city in 1453. Still that may have been bad but hardly the worst massacre in history. Never really thought of that one before, still as bad as that may have been there were worse massacre's around. Wouldn't even come in the top of worsts massacre's ever if you ask me.
As to your other question, if it will get you money then yes you should.
Originally posted by FishyOh Lord no.
The killing of the Orthodox inhabitants of Constantinople could be it... I believe the Ottomans (Turks) killed a lot of Christians back when they conquered that city in 1453. Still that may have been bad but hardly the worst massacre in history. Never really thought of that one before, still as bad as that may have been there were worse massacre's around. Wouldn't even come in the top of worsts massacre's ever if you ask me.As to your other question, if it will get you money then yes you should.
And oh Beelzebub yes.
Originally posted by Ytse
Why does it have to be about race at all? We're all human here. It was a horrible thing for one human to do to another. Kidnapping and holding in slavery against someone's will is wrong no matter which race you are.
Good point. I think that Slavery as a WHOLE, was, and still is Evil, no matter what Race is involved.
Originally posted by Penelope
Good point. I think that Slavery as a WHOLE, was, and still is Evil, no matter what Race is involved.
It's sucks how Whites tell Blacks to forget slavery happened.
Like "it passed, get over it. You shouldn't be affected by it."
Fcuk outta here, man. I don't wanna hear that sh*t. How about forgetting 9/11. They want slavery to forgotten because it was their race that held Black slaves in the U.S. and it makes them look like sh*t. But how can one forget when we have the face of slave-masters/U.S. presidents on the money we spent. G.Washington, yes the WASP on the dollar bill, was a slave owner who owned Blacks.
We're reminded of slavery everyday by them. And you still have the ongoing racism still being practiced on Blacks, still happening today.
It's crazy.
Get a bloody grip!
Noone is telling you to forget anything, but to move the hell along with that petty racist comments, and let go of your victim complex.
You have an undeniable, pathetic, spineless diplay of victim complex I have EVER encountered.
You do release that white people were enslaved, tortured and killed?
People who are NOT black have been suffered and some are STILL suffering slavery.
You do release that many slaves brought to America were bought by white people from black people in Africa?
You do release that Saudi Arabia STILL has problems of practicing slavery on white and black people, and many US citizens?
Black people have excelled in society - but if they all had a grudge like you, I doubt many of them would have moved anywhere with their lives.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Get a bloody grip!Noone is telling you to forget anything, but to move the hell along with that petty racist comments, and let go of your victim complex.
You have an undeniable, pathetic, spineless diplay of victim complex I have EVER encountered.
You do release that white people were enslaved, tortured and killed?
People who are NOT black have been suffered and some are STILL suffering slavery.
You do release that many slaves brought to America were bought by white people from black people in Africa?
You do release that Saudi Arabia STILL has problems of practicing slavery on white and black people, and many US citizens?Black people have excelled in society - but if they all had a grudge like you, I doubt many of them would have moved anywhere with their lives.
Oh yea, another example. I love the way Whites try to justify slavery by bring up uncited stats, or saying other people are slaves too, including White people. White slaves? Never seen or heard of it. White European or American slaves. ROTFLMAO.
I heard one time that racism was invented by Whites in order to preserve White supremacy.