Originally posted by DigiMark007
You made your point Crom. Start making new ones, or take it somewhere else....it's just needlessly beligerent to post the same thing rather than engaging in actual discussion.
Surely though my point has not been addressed. 🙂
Instead I have been called an "idiot" for stating Marvels own opinion in regards to the multiple origin continuity issue.
Please explain to me over p.m. rather than for us to interfere with this thread how that is beligerent .
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Although I agree, I have made my point in regards to continuity arguments.
Originally posted by h1a8
They created a multiverse. Where Beyonder only created a singe universe. And that universe is contained in the multiverse.
Incorrect my friend.
Beyonder Created an Infinite Universe OUTSIDE the Multiverse,
and it was EVERYTHING OUTSIDE the Multiverse.
Into the Infinite Beyond!
Originally posted by Mr Master
Incorrect my friend.Beyonder Created an Infinite Universe OUTSIDE the Multiverse,
and it was EVERYTHING OUTSIDE the Multiverse.
Into the Infinite Beyond!
Ha Ha Ha 😆
That's silly. You can never create a universe outside a multiverse.
There exists more than 1 multiverse thus proving that it also couldn't be everything outside the multiverse (singular). Lastly, to disprove your argument, whatever universe Beyonder on anyone creates, and it is shown in marvel, then it is in the marvel multiverse by definition (because it is in marvel comics). Thus automatically making the Brothers greater.
Originally posted by h1a8
Ha Ha Ha 😆
That's silly. You can never create a universe outside a multiverse.
There exists more than 1 multiverse thus proving that it also couldn't be everything outside the multiverse (singular). Lastly, to disprove your argument, whatever universe Beyonder on anyone creates, and it is shown in marvel, then it is in the marvel multiverse by definition (because it is in marvel comics). Thus automatically making the Brothers greater.
😆 It's true, if it's a Universe in Marvel comics it has to be by definition part of the Marvel Multiverse. Although more than one Multiverse may exist like DC and Marvel.
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Originally posted by Galan007
That's a moot point though.Even you have said that each Universe within the Multiverse is infinite.
😆 If something resides within something else it's finite.
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Although cosmologists might argue it's a matter of perspective.
Originally posted by Galan007
That's a moot point though.Even you have said that each Universe within the Multiverse is infinite.
That's not a "moot" point at all duke.
This is how Marvel, the company that creates these characters measures INFINITY!
"Thus are demonstrated TWO LEVELS of Infinity, there are of course, an INFINITE number MORE"
Dr Strange and the Concept of Infinity ...
"the very Concept of Infinity is relative, Numbers are Infinite, so are odd Numbers, yet by definition, there are Twice as many Numbers as there are odd Numberse
"One "Infinity" is included within a larger "Infinity"
The Infinity in Beyonder's Universe FAR exceeds the Infinity of the Multiverse in the PRE-Era.
Let's think it through before we flash the "moot" around here. 🙂
Originally posted by Mr Master"One "Infinity" is included within a larger "Infinity"
😆 If something resides within something else it's finite.
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Originally posted by By Crom!
Although cosmologists might argue it's a matter of perspective.
Which means infinity is a term which is often used when dealing with numbers on a scale to large to be calculated.
i.e. Black hole calculations go infinite (and they do)
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Originally posted by h1a8
Ha Ha Ha 😆
That's silly. You can never create a universe outside a multiverse.
If you would have read Secret Wars you would realize it isn't that funny.
Read Comics friend then laugh at others.
He's Beyond the Multiverse! .. and He is EVERYTHING Beyond the Multiverse!
Just like the Omniverse is everything in Marvel Now.
So the Multi-verse was EVERYTHING upto May 84' and the Beyond Realm was EVERYTHING OUTSIDE of the Marvel Multi-verse between May 1984 and Nov. 86' (when the New Universe was introduced)
Beyonder was All there was outside the Multiverse
Originally posted by h1a8
There exists more than 1 multiverse thus proving that it also couldn't be everything outside the multiverse (singular).
Not in the PRE-Retcon Era.
Let's pay attention yall.
There was ONLY ONE Multiverse and the Beyond Realm upto Nov. 86.
Originally posted by h1a8
Lastly, to disprove your argument, whatever universe Beyonder on anyone creates, and it is shown in marvel, then it is in the marvel multiverse by definition (because it is in marvel comics). Thus automatically making the Brothers greater.
I think not.
Again, go pick up the Series Secret Wars, and realize that there was ONLY ONE Multiverse in the MID 80's.
Your really talking without knowing and claiming your disproving my argument when you don't even know Marvel History.
Originally posted by Mr MasterWait.
Just like the Omniverse is everything in Marvel Now.So the Multi-verse was EVERYTHING upto May 84' and the Beyond Realm was EVERYTHING OUTSIDE of the Marvel Multi-verse between May 1984 and Nov. 86' (when the New Universe was introduced)
The whole 'Jaspers Warp' arch was originally published between 1981-1983 if I'm not mistaken...
So at the time of the Beyonder (1984), wouldn't have there technically been an Omniverse within Marvel?
Originally posted by Galan007
Even though a Multiverse was never once mentioned in comparison to Beyonder's Universe?Ok. 🙂
If the Beyonder was Millions of Times More Powerful than ALL the Rest of the Multiverse Combined.
Then it stands to reason his Universe was exactly that.
Even if we take your interpretation, what difference does it make?
It still does not put a limit on the size of the Beyond Realm.
How many "drops" does it take to make a Multiverse?
How do you know?
You don't, and neither do I.
Originally posted by Mr Master
If you would have read Secret Wars you would realize it isn't that funny.Read Comics friend then laugh at others.
Secret Wars is incredibly stupid.
Stupid highlights of the Trade, just about the whole story. My fave stupidity is page 333 where Ben Grimm in his Black trunks decides to stay on a planet with just the dodgy locals or page 194 when Cap knocks out the Enchantress. In fact lets forget the whole book shall we.
Read comics not scans my friend.
But then it wasn't any better as individual comics 😖hifty: although I am to young to know this 🙂
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Originally posted by Galan007
Wait.The whole 'Jaspers Warp' arch was originally published between 1981-1983 if I'm not mistaken...
So at the time of the Beyonder (1984), wouldn't have there technically been an Omniverse within Marvel?
I explained this before, maybe you wasn't in that thread.
The Continuity was not linked at that time between Captain Britain related titles and Continuity Marvel Multiversal stories.
This is why the Jaspers Warp series was Remade, in the form of X-Men Archives #1-7. (95'😉
Originally posted by Mr MasterThat's what I thought.
I explained this before, maybe you wasn't in that thread.The Continuity was not linked at that time between Captain Britain related titles and Continuity Marvel Multiversal stories.
This is why the Jaspers Warp series was Remade, in the form of X-Men Archives #1-7.
I know it started out as a British comic, so I figured it may have been out of continuity with the mainstream MU.
I just thought I'd ask. 😉
Originally posted by Mr Master
I explained this before, maybe you wasn't in that thread.The Continuity was not linked at that time between Captain Britain related titles and Continuity Marvel Multiversal stories.
This is why the Jaspers Warp series was Remade, in the form of X-Men Archives #1-7.
The Jaspers War was published originally in black and white in the U.K. in the early eighties in the one that reprinted the Avengers stories and Captain Britain Monthly.
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I loved the nod to Miracleman in Warrior with his death at the hands of the fury.
