Originally posted by By Crom!Yeah, it's well worth it to buy "X-Men Archives: Featuring Captain Britain" #1-#7, instead of the original comics.
The Jaspers War was published originally in black and white in the U.K. in the early eighties in the one that reprinted the Avengers stories and Captain Britain Monthly.
They at least have color.
Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah, it's well worth it to buy "X-Men Archives: Featuring Captain Britain" #1-#7, instead of the original comics.They at least have color.
I have the original English issues. It was Earth 238 if I remember rightly. Warrior was a much better comic though. Shandor and Miracleman were far superior strips as was the original V for Vendetta.
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Originally posted by Mr Master
If you would have read Secret Wars you would realize it isn't that funny.Read Comics friend then laugh at others.
He's Beyond the Multiverse! .. and He is EVERYTHING Beyond the Multiverse!
I've read Secret Wars many times as a kid. There is more than 1 multiverse, so saying "Beyond the Multiverse" is incorrect (must use plural noun unless you are referring to the Marvel Multiverse). In conjunction to that, there is no mention that he is outside the Marvel multiverse (maybe UNIVERSE) for that would be impossible due to the definition of the Marvel Multiverse.
You missing a very easy point.
By definition: The Marvel multiverse is the collection of all the universes that exist in the marvel comics. Also by definition: any universe that is shown by Marvel then it is in the Marvel Multiverse. Thus making the statement "He's Beyond the Multiverse! .. and He is EVERYTHING Beyond the Multiverse!" false.
Originally posted by Galan007
It never says anything about a Multiverse in that scan, you may think that's what it's talking about....... But the bottom line is that a Multiverse is never once mentioned.By your definition, even though the scans of the Brothers is refering to a Multiverse, I could argue that it must mean that the Brothers created trillions of Multiverses, even though it isn't even mentioned in the scan.
How well would that hold up? 😕
Hyperbole at it's best.
What did Beyonder actually do that would warrant that claim?
Erasing Death?
Creating A universe much bigger then our own?
Beating some Celestials?Come on.
Nothing he actually did on pannel equates to him being that powerful.
✅ What ive been saying to the child since his registration. Happy to see someones caught on after a year. 🙂
Originally posted by By Crom!Thanks for highlighting that. Works for me. 🙂
Why is it stupid it's Marvels own opinion as to why different creations have taken place. Are you saying Marvel is stupid?Multiple beings have experienced multiple origins of the universe actually means that the 616 reality is always in a state of flux, constantly re-writing itself as time goes on.
Marvels own words it was a big bang
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Marvel_Universe
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Originally posted by Mr MasterBeyonder took over what would have been the "OMNIVERSE" back then, since there was ONLY the Multiverse and the Beyond Realm.
And Beyonder was ther Beyond Realm.
Not true in the slightest as you very well know. 🙂
During the pre retcon period the New Universe was made known to readers. The New Universe had nothing to do with the Beyonder. 🙂
Originally posted by h1a8
I've read Secret Wars many times as a kid. There is more than 1 multiverse, so saying "Beyond [B]the Multiverse" is incorrect (must use plural noun unless you are referring to the Marvel Multiverse). In conjunction to that, there is no mention that he is outside the Marvel multiverse (maybe UNIVERSE) for that would be impossible due to the definition of the Marvel Multiverse.
You missing a very easy point.
By definition: The Marvel multiverse is the collection of all the universes that exist in the marvel comics. Also by definition: any universe that is shown by Marvel then it is in the Marvel Multiverse. Thus making the statement "He's Beyond the Multiverse! .. and He is EVERYTHING Beyond the Multiverse!" false. [/B]
Read it again then:
"Here we are someplace OUTSIDE Earth's Universe AND ALL the Infinite Adjacent DIMENSIONS which MAKE UP the MULTIVERSE,
in other words, BEYOND ALL KNOW EXISTENCE!
This must be the "BEYOND REALM"
"I AM the SUM of EVERYTHING BEYOND"
Don't bother me with this,
everyone knows Beyonder was from Beyond the Multiverse.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Not true in the slightest as you very well know.During the pre retcon period the New Universe was made known to readers. The New Universe had nothing to do with the Beyonder.
I know very well that the New Universe was introduced in publication in Nov. 1986
Secret Wars II took place in 1985.
Your point is moot.
Originally posted by Mr Master
AND?How does this stop Beyonder from being Everything OUTSIDE the Multiverse upto Nov. 1986? (when the New Universe was introduced)
You cant say that. It happened Pre retcon therefore during the pre retcon period Beyonder was NOT all there was outside the Marvel multiverse. He was JUST all we knew of outside the marvel multiverse up until the point we were told otherwise.
See the difference? 😕
Acknowledge it. 🙂
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
You cant say that. It happened Pre retcon therefore during the pre retcon period Beyonder was NOT all there was outside the Marvel multiverse. He was JUST all we knew of outside the marvel multiverse up until the point we were told otherwise.See the difference? 😕
Acknowledge it.
Acknowledge what?
If the New Universe was introduced in Nov. 86
and Secret Wars II took place in mid 85'
the only thing to acknowledge is that Beyonder was everything OUTSIDE the Multiverse until Nov. 86.
The New Universe wasn't just sitting there waiting to be discovered, (this isn't real life) it was CREATED for the Nov. 86 publication.
I don't care if it was imagined 20 years before Secret Wars.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Read it again then:"Here we are someplace OUTSIDE Earth's Universe AND ALL the Infinite Adjacent DIMENSIONS which MAKE UP the MULTIVERSE,
in other words, BEYOND ALL KNOW EXISTENCE!
This must be the "BEYOND REALM"
"I AM the SUM of EVERYTHING BEYOND"
Don't bother me with this,
everyone knows Beyonder was from Beyond the Multiverse.
First of all, look who is talking in the scan. Second, the multiverse mentioned in the scan isn't the Marvel multiverse but a smaller subset (If there exists such a thing).
I reason as follows:
The definition of the Marvel Multiverse is either true or false.
But it has to be true since all definitions are true (they are not theories). And since it is true then the universe that the Beyonder is from is part of or included in the Marvel Multiverse since it is a universe shown by Marvel comics.
If not, then the assumption that the definition of the Marvel Multiverse is true is actually false. But we all know that this cannot be. Hence the Beyonder and his realm is apart of the Marvel Multiverse. It doesn't matter who says what (not even stan lee). For example, if I define the Marvel Multiverse to be the collection or set of all the universes that Marvel comics has ever shown and then say that the Beyonder's universe (a universe that marvel shows) is outside this multiverse then the second statement is wrong since both they contradict each other (making at least one false) and the first statement (the definition) is always true.
