Pre-retcon Beyonder v.s. The Brothers (pre-retcon)

Originally posted by By Crom!
Proof your comprehension skills are far greater than MMs bless him

I tried similar logic on Masters yesterday and was called an idiot, I don't think he understands what you are explaining.

You're a LIAR, I never called you an idiot, though you were SO wrong.
(you made a thread specifically aimed at me and another, thinking you had a valid point) 😂

"Comprehension skills" my ass,

Dude, your trying to compare Genesis Manipulating with "Magic" or whatever a Big Bang event,

to Entropy (an Abstract EXERCISING his FUNCTION) to NATURALLY cause a Big Bang after the Universe/Eternity has Imploded into Entropy itself.

This is the Universal Law,

When Eternity the Universe has reached the end of a Cycle of Existence, Entropy comes into the picture and does just that. (Ends it)

And here we can see Eternity the 616 Universe had reached this point:

Eternity said, "AT LAST" before he was destroyed by them.

"the Universe was living on BORROWED Time"

"Eternity didn't want to keep going"

This is why Entropy and Genis were able to Kill Eternity so effortlessly, it was the Universes Time to go, in order to be Born Anew (Natural Big Bang)

"the Cosmos was already in its death throes"

The Universe became Entropy, (as it's suppose to)

Then Entropy initiated a Natural Big Bang,

Then Entropy becomes the New Universe/Eternity.

Originally posted by By Crom!
Damn that Mr Masters took a hell of a beating.

Had you known the difference between a Natural Big Bang and the one that many others can artificially produce,

you'd be singing another song.

Marvel didn't list ALL the cats that have Remade a Universe in your little link, I could add to that list 😂

but my point wasn't about that, I was focusing on a NATURAL Big Bang.

Originally posted by By Crom!
Should you require any further assistance please do not hesitate to contact me. Either on the board or through p.m. Anything, comprehension, grammar,

Perhaps.

Originally posted by By Crom!
comic interpretation as per the major companies, common sense, you name it I can help you.

Believe me when I say, your the last fella I'll be coming to for Comic interpretation,

Originally posted by By Crom!
I can help you.

ehwtf

Originally posted by Mr Master
Perhaps.

Believe me when I say, your the last fella I'll be coming to for Comic interpretation,

sorry but from what I've seen, ehwtf

shsssh 😖hifty: pssst it's still "you're", as in "you are". 🙂

That's O.K. I understand you don't get what's going on much. No Problem.

You need to read a few real comics, maybe? Not just illegal downloads.
I suggest Watchmen
Miracleman
Moores run on Swampthing
Ex Machina
Slaine
Grendel
Bone
Y
Shandor
Fables
Starman
The Nazz
Esoterica
Sandman
Moores Supreme
Tom Strong

etc.

🙂

Stop reading the McDonalds of comics and read something decent. Then your understanding will improve.

🙂

Originally posted by By Crom!
shsssh 😖hifty: pssst it's still "you're", as in "you are".

What's all this?

There's no point in taking you serious even for a moment ey?

Originally posted by By Crom!
That's O.K. I understand you don't get what's going on much. No Problem.

See what I'm saying, what's the point of this?

Are you really such a Dick?

I try and reply to your post (which included insults) and you return with more insults and NOTHING of consequence.

Originally posted by By Crom!
You need to read a few real comics maybe. Not just illegal downloads.
I suggest Watchmen

"illegal downloads?" dontgetit

And I read Watchmen and I have it in my collection but,

what does this have to do with anything?

Originally posted by By Crom!
Stop reading the McDonalds of comics and read something decent. Then your understanding will improve.

stfu2

I had enough of you.

Love this ignore button, now post whatever wish. swank

Originally posted by Mr Master
What's all this?

There's no point in taking you serious even for a moment ey?

See what I'm saying, what's the point of this?

Are you really such a Dick?

I try and reply to your post (which included insults) and you return with more insults and NOTHING of consequence.

"illegal downloads?" dontgetit

And I read Watchmen and I have it in my collection but,

what does this have to do with anything?

stfu2

I had enough of you.

Love this ignore button, now post whatever wish. swank

Ahh, the old ignore button

Bye 🙂

I imagine MM stamping his feet and bursting out crying as he types "I have had enough of you!".

By Crom! 1 Mr Masters 0

Since they're both retconned, they're both non canon.

Each of the Brothers' represented a truley omnipotent being, a being of the highest scale of infinity, the supreme being in all of Marvel and DC. -- Which are currently the supreme beings of each companies?
The One-Above-All and "Unknown Forces"/Presence?

Beyonder was limited all the time, million of times all the powers of the mutliverse combinded? -- If he was truley infinite, wouldent it be infinity times all the power of all the power in the multiverse combinded?
A drop in the ocean and so forth -- Discribed with limitations.

He even had trouble with Molecule man, lost a great deal of his power when removing the concept of Death.

Now the (Pre-retcon) Brothers who would be infinity times all other powers in their multiverse combided, would have no trouble defeating anyone or anything, the eradication of the concept of Death would be a thought away from them.

They could do anything without any trouble at all, the Living Tribunal and the Spectre was beneath their notecing.

The only reason they stalemated eachother was to prove that Marvel and DC was equal in both authority and power.

And I am porbably the biggest Beyonder fan in existance.

Pre-retcon Brothers = Supreme being of Marvel (TOAA) + Supreme being of DC (UF/Presence) > TOAA = UF/Presence > Pre-retcon Beyonder

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Since they're both retconned, they're both non canon.

Each of the Brothers' represented a truley omnipotent being, a being of the highest scale of infinity, the [B]supreme being in all of Marvel and DC. -- Which are currently the supreme beings of each companies?
The One-Above-All and "Unknown Forces"/Presence?

Beyonder was limited all the time, million of times all the powers of the mutliverse combinded? -- If he was truley infinite, wouldent it be infinity times all the power of all the power in the multiverse combinded?
A drop in the ocean and so forth -- Discribed with limitations.

He even had trouble with Molecule man, lost a great deal of his power when removing the concept of Death.

Now the (Pre-retcon) Brothers who would be infinity times all other powers in their multiverse combided, would have no trouble defeating anyone or anything, the eradication of the concept of Death would be a thought away from them.

They could do anything without any trouble at all, the Living Tribunal and the Spectre was beneath their notecing.

The only reason they stalemated eachother was to prove that Marvel and DC was equal in both authority and power.

And I am porbably the biggest Beyonder fan in existance.

Pre-retcon Brothers = Supreme being of Marvel (TOAA) + Supreme being of DC (UF/Presence) > TOAA = UF/Presence > Pre-retcon Beyonder [/B]

Good Post, All true 🙂

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Since they're both retconned, they're both non canon.

Each of the Brothers' represented a truley omnipotent being, a being of the highest scale of infinity, the [B]supreme being in all of Marvel and DC. -- Which are currently the supreme beings of each companies?
The One-Above-All and "Unknown Forces"/Presence?

Beyonder was limited all the time, million of times all the powers of the mutliverse combinded? -- If he was truley infinite, wouldent it be infinity times all the power of all the power in the multiverse combinded?
A drop in the ocean and so forth -- Discribed with limitations.

He even had trouble with Molecule man, lost a great deal of his power when removing the concept of Death.
[/B]

This highlights the problem, of diffrenet levels of Infinity ! 🙂

Originally posted by General Mess
This highlights the problem, of diffrenet levels of Infinity ! 🙂

Agreed 🙂 lol 🙂

Originally posted by General Mess
This highlights the problem, of diffrenet levels of Infinity ! 🙂

There's nothing beyond it.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Brother #1: Infinity Infinity-level of Marvel
Brother #2: Infinity Infinity-level of DC

There's nothing beyond it.

Except Reality and the Readers Universe 🙂

Originally posted by Mr Master
dontgetit

Apparently you did not get my point cause I never said that.

But don't mind me, continue to make stuff up while you're at it.

thanx...

If I have missed your point would be as kind af to explain to my why you have then used to much time, explaining to ours all that beyonder is outside the multiverse greated by the brothers. Now we are using pre so explain it to my because you are going against your own arguments read them again

Originally posted by Utrigita
If I have missed your point would be as kind af to explain to my why you have then used to much time, explaining to ours all that beyonder is outside the multiverse greated by the brothers. Now we are using pre so explain it to my because you are going against your own arguments read them again

He is indeed 🙂

By Crom!

Originally posted by By Crom!
Except Reality and the Readers Universe 🙂

I agree totally with you

Sometimes Crom Mr M will not agree that he is wrong but you did great

👆

Originally posted by Utrigita
If I have missed your point would be as kind af to explain to my why you have then used to much time, explaining to ours all that beyonder is outside the multiverse greated by the brothers. Now we are using pre so explain it to my because you are going against your own arguments read them again

Originally posted by Mr Master
Read it again then:

"Here we are someplace OUTSIDE Earth's Universe AND ALL the Infinite Adjacent DIMENSIONS which MAKE UP the MULTIVERSE,

in other words, BEYOND ALL KNOW EXISTENCE!

This must be the "BEYOND REALM"

"I AM the SUM of EVERYTHING BEYOND"

Don't bother me with this,

everyone knows Beyonder was from Beyond the Multiverse.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Sometimes Crom Mr M will not agree that he is wrong but

And you would know since you joined only Two Weeks ago. 😉

Originally posted by Utrigita
you did great

Yes, he Dis-agrees with anything I post regardless.

That is, doing great.

I'm fascinated by all the information he has supplied us with, and his debating skills?

Off the chart.

"yes he is"

"he is wrong"

"he doesn't understand"

"you lack comprehension"

"no he's not"

hysterical2

Originally posted by Utrigita
Sometimes Crom Mr M will not agree that he is wrong but you did great

👆

Thank you my friend 🙂

Originally posted by Utrigita
Sometimes Crom Mr M will not agree that he is wrong but you did great

👆

if we use post ret con no one is above living tribunal save the one above all 🙂

Originally posted by Mr Master

By continuing showing me this post, your are refusing to answer my question again. Again I will tell what bothers me.

""I AM the SUM of EVERYTHING BEYOND"

Don't bother me with this,

everyone knows Beyonder was from Beyond the Multiverse. "

Your own words from these words I read that beyonder is infact beyond the Marvel Universe and DC according to these but that isn't possible since The brothers was the sume of EVERYTHING, now you are saying that you have never said anything about beyonder being beyond the marvel but with you continuing to post the exact same scan then i am sure i am right, And if I may say again the Brothers was meant to be TOAA and The Presence from the Marvel and DC. You say these isn't canon but nowhere have i found anything that implicates that Secret Wars II was meant to be canon, I have explain to you why it was writtend, and why marvel decided to change the universe.

Just my analyse of you words i have so far no reason to belive otherwise.

Oh and do you know how longe I have been reading these posts before I joined if you don't, quit saying that I don't know anything about you.