Captain America vs. Wolverine (Twist) · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

capt it up Senior Member

Originally posted by Dreampanther

Smaller, does in fact, in this instance, mean weaker. Sorry, little buddy, but if you wanna play with the big boys, you are gonna have to go and get a ladder first. Cap is bigger, therefore he is stronger. They might both be on equal footing here, physically - but I am taking that to mean that they are both at the peak of their different physicalities - NOT that Wolverine has now suddenly grown two feet in order to look Cap in the eys.

Again you miss read the go dam thread. They are the same physically is every aera for this fight. They are the same strength speed, agility, reflex and so on. It a skills fight that was the point of it. If we allowed them to still have there powers Capt would be screwed since Logan is stronger then him.
DO you understand what I am saying? For this fight they are the same strength, speed ect. They are the size they normally are, but there abilties are all the same as the other.

Originally posted by Dreampanther

Once a runt, always a runt.

This does not help your argument if any thing it makes you sound bias again logan.

Also the run with his powers is stronger then capt.

Originally posted by Dreampanther

xactly - Cap, a man who has survived more or less whole and unscathed during his entire war career,

No he did not he was almost killed on many occasions.

Originally posted by Dreampanther

or Logan, who goes into 'berserker' mode and opens himself wide open for any retaliatory strike?

Here were your total lack of knowledge on logan hurts you. Logan did not even know his was a mutant or had a healing factor till well past war world two. Hell he only figured out he was more then human like 40 years a go maybe less. He got shot a total off 3 times during war time till the cold war if I am not mistaken and those times were in order to save another’s life.

Originally posted by Dreampanther

Cap has lived his whole life knowing he can die, therefore protecting himself first and then striking back. Logan has lived his whole life knowing whatever happens to him he can take it, so he gives no thought to defence - he just tries to get the kill.

Yup your talking out your back end. First logan in world war one and two ya logan has a lot more war experience then capt does or even nick fury. Logan did not even know he was a mutant. He did not know he could survive a gun shot. He never took a gun shot ecpt 3 times and they were in order to save another’s life. Logan fought longer then capt has thinking if he was shot he would be killed.

Originally posted by Dreampanther

Now he is suddenly mortal. And Cap is gonna beat him so hard he is gonna have to go and get a "I'm Cap's b!tch" tattoo.

Again you missed the threads idea. The whole point is logan has ample time to know he is not a ble to get hit any more. The whole thread idea is to see whole more skilled

"clearly a man who knows nothing about wolverine"

Originally posted by Dreampanther

I know enough about Wolverine to know he'll get his ass kicked by Captain America, time and time and time again. He's already proved he can out-think him, in just about every meeting of theirs, instance.

Really? Lats I checked capt never won a fight vs Logan how ever Logan defeat capt in MAN AND WOLF PART 3 of 6 CAPTAIN AMERICA issue 404

So no you clearly don’t know any thing.

capt it up Senior Member

Originally posted by Soleran
They are in the same general specs as described in the first post not literally identical in strength and even so lets say they could lift 2 times their weight overhead (which is insanely strong at their weights) Cap America weighs what 240 and Wolverine 200 so Cap has a siginificant strength and reach advantage over logan.
That said a punch from a 240lb man has more zing to it then a 200lb man all things being considered.
Height and weight are very large factors in fighting especially with skills that are "comparable."
Typically the larger man wins with "comperable" skill sets.

Lol metal max later said it was a skills match they have the same strength and so on.

Soleran Fast As Time

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Okay. Fine. It shouldn't matter anyway. But I'll appease you, nonetheless.
They're both made regular human athletes. Athlete: able to lift one to two times one's own body weight. All their stats are the same (speed, agility, reaction time, endurance, durability, etc.), save for their specific heights and weights, obviously.
I believe Captain America wins the majority.

Yeah right there and I pointed out that Captain is larger and heavier then Wolverine so they do have the same strength and it's based off their bodyweight one to two times Cap's advantage on strength and reach.🙂

capt it up Senior Member

Originally posted by Soleran
Yeah right there and I pointed out that Captain is larger and heavier then Wolverine so they do have the same strength and it's based off their bodyweight one to two times Cap's advantage on strength and reach.🙂

also it supose to be a skills match I think metal max made a mistake. since he kept saying it a skills match through otu the thread.

capt weights 240

logan wieghts 295.

Soleran Fast As Time

No adamantium, Logan weighs around 200lbs last I heard.

Anyway it's just my two cents based on the discussion and the rules established by the thread creator.

Based off the thread's rules I'm going Captain America 6/10.

capt it up Senior Member

Originally posted by Soleran
No adamantium, Logan weighs around 200lbs last I heard.
Anyway it's just my two cents based on the discussion and the rules established by the thread creator.
Based off the thread's rules I'm going Captain America 6/10.

ya when metal max get back on I asked what he wanted since it he was going by pure skill that really did nto make sense why he set it up this way

that like stealing all of logans powers and then giving capt more strength.

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I'm giving this to Captain America. He's more skilled of the 2 IMO. He doesn't have fancy healing factor, he doesn't need one. He has fared well without one.

Cap wins 7/10.

capt it up Senior Member

I disagree I think logan the more skilled of the two and deffinetly more experienced

Silent Master Senior Member

Cap spent several decades fighting Korvac in the future, I doubt Wolverine has any exp edge at this point.

Soljer Beware my Power

Originally posted by capt it up
I disagree I think logan the more skilled of the two and deffinetly more experienced

Nope.

🙂.

juggernaut66666 Legendary

Originally posted by Soljer
Nope.
🙂.

You have to learn that here on KMC no one is better then Wolverine. 😐

capt it up Senior Member

Originally posted by Silent Master
Cap spent several decades fighting Korvac in the future, I doubt Wolverine has any exp edge at this point.

what issue? also thats not possiable capt be an old man then unless it was all an alternate reality or a re written one in which case it would not matter

capt it up Senior Member

Originally posted by Soljer
Nope.
🙂.

Nope?

how is logan not the more experinced? Not to mention his master 1000 year expereince on top of logans on 100 years experence on top of implanted memories with even more experience

Soljer Beware my Power

Originally posted by capt it up
Nope?
how is logan not the more experinced? Not to mention his master 1000 year expereince on top of logans on 100 years experence on top of implanted memories with even more experience

Who said which part of your statement I was disagreeing with? 😕

capt it up Senior Member

Originally posted by Soljer
Who said which part of your statement I was disagreeing with? 😕

well you said nope as if you were saying no to both statements niether of which I agree with you on.

hell I go as far as to say winter soldier is more skilled then capt, but capts stats are what allow him to defeat his old partner

Soljer Beware my Power

Originally posted by capt it up
well you said nope as if you were saying no to both statements niether of which I agree with you on.
hell I go as far as to say winter soldier is more skilled then capt, but capts stats are what allow him to defeat his old partner

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capt it up Senior Member

Originally posted by Soljer
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if you read capt america winter soldier run you understand what im talking about. Bucky is a naterully skilled fighter even with out training. He was also much mroe talented then capt, not to mention he had all the same training capt got from all the same people

inamilist Junior Member

On weight divisions:

To some degree, you guys are correct when you say bigger people have the advantage. Like in boxing.

However, there are styles of fighting that can eliminate those advantages. The best example I can give is Pride fighting. There are no weight classes in Pride, and many times, very skilled martial artists will be able to take out larger opponents.

Look up this guy named Bob Sapp on Youtube. He is gigantic, he would pummel a man with his forearm, but smaller fighters are constantly able to take him down (mind you, with ridiculous skill advantages). The Gracie style ju jitsu (i think its ju jitsu, I'm no expert on these things) is also designed for thin, wiry people to take out much larger and stronger opponents.

In fights where the fighters need to use the same style, sure, there is going to be big advantages for big people. When the variation comes in, where both Wolvie and Cap are going to be able to react on the fly with moves from multiple different styles, any advantage that the physique would give will be moot at best.

Silent Master Senior Member

Originally posted by capt it up
what issue? also thats not possiable capt be an old man then unless it was all an alternate reality or a re written one in which case it would not matter

It was an issue of Captain America, I think from 1999, anyway Korvac had a cosmic cube and kept rebooting time, he let Cap remember what happened as he was attmepting to break Cap's spirit.

Soleran Fast As Time

Originally posted by inamilist
On weight divisions:
To some degree, you guys are correct when you say bigger people have the advantage. Like in boxing.
However, there are styles of fighting that can eliminate those advantages.

They don't elminate the advantages.

Jui-jitsu is supposed to help you overcome up to 6 inches and/or 50lbs of opponent.

Once again with all things being equal rougly in skill as you mention in PRIDE, size matters.