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ROTS non-mechanical Vader would beat Mundi in around one minute (keeping in mind that AOTC Anakin lasted about 50 seconds against Dooku and Mundi is likely closer to ROTS Anakin then AOTC Anakin is to Dooku). Against OT Vader he'll last a little longer, maybe 1 min 20 seconds. So against ROTS Vader Vader would win easily, OT vader would win without alot of trouble, RODV Vader? He'll lose, but if it's him from the end of the book it'll be like 2-3 minutes.
Originally posted by darthsith19And where was it stated ROTS vader > Empire vader? Right juz cuz he is faster, you seem to forget 1) post suit vader is much more skillful in the force 2) he uses force attacks and kills with it far more often than presuit vader and 3) He has greater mastery and control of the dark side its actually clear minded anakin in a saber fight > OT vader which i wouldnt deny. And by the way, RODV happened only 3 weeks after ROTS, vader is still inexperienced, and in the dark woman fight, he used an ENTIRE waterfall to drown her though it was not a success
Right, just like Vader pwnd Roan Shryne instantly with the Force, huh? No, just cause he's stronger with the Force doesn't mean he'll pwn him asap, did Mace get pwnd by Sidious? ROTS Vader > OT Vader, so Mundi'll likely last lonegr against OT Vader than he will against ROTS Vader.
In RODV he still had a hell of a time defeating someone who was weaker with the Force than he was, which proves that he won't just pwn cause he's stronger with the Force. ROTS Vader ? OT Vader, Lucas states that OT Vader is 80% of Sidious while PT Vader is as strong as Sidious in a Rolling Stones Interview here.
From then on, he wasn't as strong as the Emperor, signifying that before that he was as strong as the Emperor.
Originally posted by darthsith19
In RODV he still had a hell of a time defeating someone who was weaker with the Force than he was, which proves that he won't just pwn cause he's stronger with the Force. ROTS Vader ? OT Vader, Lucas states that OT Vader is 80% of Sidious while PT Vader is as strong as Sidious in a Rolling Stones Interview here.From then on, he wasn't as strong as the Emperor, signifying that before that he was as strong as the Emperor.
1) He was referring to raw power, no where was it stated that PT anakin is as powerful as sidious, quit lying
2) In RODV he was recovering, he was still weak and still inexperienced and killing an army of wookies is pretty impressive in that state as well as taking 8 jedi masters at once
3) In the 19 year gap, he has demonstrated powers which scared the shit out of his officers, like levitating in the air and using force flight.
Sorry DS, but vader got stronger, not weaker as you claimed him to be, and even if GL made that statement, it would be an inconsistency, how can some sith lord stay weak for 19 years without improving?
Sorry DS19, you fail, try again
By the way, anakin was SUPPOSE to become twice as powerful, not until he got his arms cut off
Last thing, just because you are stronger than an opponent and your opponent has greater control and mastery of the force and mor eskillful does it automatically mean you beat him? Of course not
If anakin is as powerful as the emperor as you are so fond of speaking, Then why did yoda state obi wan could not defeat sidious yet obi wan beat anakin?
1) He was referring to raw power, no where was it stated that PT anakin is as powerful as sidious, quit lying
2) In RODV he was recovering, he was still weak and still inexperienced and killing an army of wookies is pretty impressive in that state as well as taking 8 jedi masters at once
3) In the 19 year gap, he has demonstrated powers which scared the shit out of his officers, like levitating in the air and using force flight.
Sorry DS, but vader got stronger, not weaker as you claimed him to be, and even if GL made that statement, it would be an inconsistency, how can some sith lord stay weak for 19 years without improving?
If anakin is as powerful as the emperor as you are so fond of speaking, Then why did yoda state obi wan could not defeat sidious yet obi wan beat anakin?