Ki Adi Mundi Vs Darth Vader

Started by kamikz5 pages

No, again read what Escape says, it doesn't 100% show that he was on par with Sidious. The, "from then on" is of course after the Mustafar "accident", Sidious could just have been an example to show his decrease in power. He has said himself that the only ones who could contend with Sids is either Yoda or Mace, and WE know very well that Anakin isn't on par with him.
(Seeing as Yoda saw Kenobi as to weak for the Emperor, but not to weak for Anakin) And the fact that he has shown nothing as powerful as Sids. (Anakin only made that statue fall, wasn't so big a deal compared to Yoda and Sidious. He could only make it lean and fall)

Toppling a 50 foot statue is impressive, but not enough to put Anakin on par with Sidious in the Force.

That's what I said. 😛

The, "from then on" is of course after the Mustafar "accident", Sidious could just have been an example to show his decrease in power. He has said himself that the only ones who could contend with Sids is either Yoda or Mace, and WE know very well that Anakin isn't on par with him.
Could have been an example? Seriously, now we're just trying to make excuses, nowhere in that article state that it's an example.
Seeing as Yoda saw Kenobi as to weak for the Emperor, but not to weak for Anakin) And the fact that he has shown nothing as powerful as Sids. (Anakin only made that statue fall, wasn't so big a deal compared to Yoda and Sidious. He could only make it lean and fall)

Kenobi was able tot ake Anakin out for two reasons:
1. He kenw Anakin's moves nearly as well as he knew his own.
2. Anakin wasn't thinking clearly in that duel.

Also, Yoda was assuming the Emperor was more powerful than Anakin, but how would he know? He was speculating, that's hardly proof. And yeah, when Anakin was focused and using the Dark Side at the same time Dooku went down pretty fast, in that state, which I believe to be his prime, he is on par with Sidious. Is Mustafar Vader? Unlikely.

No, read Escape's post again, it describes it quite clearly. It does NOT show that Anakin is on par with Sids, you should know that they are by far not equal...

If he wanted to say ROTS Sids = Rots Anakin, he would have said, "Anakin was his equal, but not anymore". In this case, he could simply have said, "Now he was not twice as powerful as Sidious, but rather 80%", it is just to describe that Anakin ain't near as powerful as before. The line is taken out of context.

An example, Lucas says, "Now he was more like Maul, or Dooku", does that mean Maul and Dooku are roughly on the same level, and Vader is equal to them?

Yeah, I guess Yoda just assumed that Anakin was out of his mind at this time. Comon, Sidious would WTFpwn Kenobi, Anakin could barley only stalemate him in a force duel.

A little A>B>C kinda argument, but it actually works. Sidious is easily better than Dooku in the force, and Dooku is by far Anakin's superior in force powers. Anakin is not Sidious equal in a force battle, not by far....

Sidious and Anakin are quite even in a sword battle, but the intelligence and experience goes to Sidious, and the raw power to Anakin.

Darthsith, your entire argument is poorly constructed. Lucas said that, as of RotS, only Mace and Yoda could compete with the Emperor. You'll notice that Anakin's name was not included in that list. It goes onto say that had Anakin not been injured on Mustafar, he could have defeated the Emperor, which refers to later on down the line when he fulfilled his potential.

Secondly, Kamikz brings up a point. Anakin - in his "state of mind" - was much better than Count Dooku in a lightsaber match, but there's nothing to say that even then that he was on par with Dooku in Force powers, given that Dooku's had many more decades to practice and master the Force. Aside from uncontrolled bursts of raw anger, Anakin is nowhere on par with Sidious or Yoda in Force powers - or even Dooku.

Sorry. Raw power goes to Anakin and possibly even lightsaber skills. But Force power, mastery as well as experience and knowledge? Sidious has that in droves.

Originally posted by Advent

Just like you came up with "I'm going to hand you your ass, Young [insert username]"? Or "chump change"?

fine ill concede on this one.

Originally posted by Advent

Really? Show me these "many others" then.
Ls, he likes to say "try again" you get pissed of when i used that against legend, May i ask, do you bear a grudge against me? If so, may i ask why? And whats more annoying is that when other people use this "try again" phrase you dont give a fcuk and when i use it, you are not happy, you want to Start bitching at my face screaming at me not to use these words.
Again this is about the "Accept it son" thing right?
Sorry, ill use it against other people and theres nothing you can do about it, ill simply ignore you becuase i didnt copy this from you

Originally posted by Advent

Request denied.
Then i too shall deny your "Annoying request" If your not happy, then by all means sue me . O right you cannot do so simply because the phrases you use have no copyright on them. i am not breaking the law either

Originally posted by Advent

I'm not claiming, you've outright told me that you use words I say. I still have the PMs, if you'd like to see them.
Do i need to when i already have them? Im fine with you not happy that i said words i copied like chump change and hand you your ass thing, its the "accept it son" where i got it from LS i think but i swear i didnt copy it from you

Originally posted by Advent

So, that means that I can't ***** when noobs try to use my vocabulary? No, it doesn't.
You have every right to ***** at me, and i have every right to ignore you.

If you want to settle this its fine with me, You PM'd me, i replied expecting one from you which you didnt bother to reply which i wanted you to so i can settle this without sparks flying. You know what i mean? i wanted to ask you what is the big deal with using some of your phrases? Did anybody die? Did the history of WWII and 911 repeat itself? Is the world going to end just because i use some of your phrases? You never bother to explain why you get angry when i used some of them, heck this is just words, its not things like piracy or criminal activities.

If You want to tell me why then say so and you dont have to troll calling others n00bs. Part of the reason why i think you get arrogant sometimes( no offence)

Originally posted by Advent

I'm not assuming, I know you did.
Well like i said i got it from other people, i Admit i lied in the earlier post about me coming up with that

Originally posted by Advent

And I'll take note you didn't respond to how Obi-Wan is stronger than Anakin in the Force, care to prove up any time soon?
Notice when i dont respond means i concede?

I'll take all the irrelevant, and off topic stuff to PM, due to the fact this isn't Judge Judy.

Originally posted by Kadesh
Notice when i dont respond means i concede?

No, I didn't notice that, nor would anyone else. Good job on making a statement you couldn't back up, though.

Darth Vader takes this easily.

Originally posted by Rampant ox
Darth Vader takes a robotic crap on Mundi. 😐
😱 Most likely! 🙄

Vader once ate an icecream with one bite.