Originally posted by allfg
Lucas' word = law.
What is it about the quote that you find so difficult to comprehend Gideon? Is it confusing you? Don't get giddy on me now, Gideon.
Btw, again, the laughing smilies are unnecessary, it only shows how sad you are that you laugh at things that are..simply unfunny.
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Originally posted by darthsith19
I wish I could believe what you're saying, Gideon, but, unfortunately, Lucas overrules the movies, so there's really nothing to debate. Unless there's another, more recent quote from Lucas that contradicts the first one then it's fact.
No, Darthsith. There is something to debate. I think you're simply pulling this stunt to try to break some sort of taboo, and it is ridiculous. You're taking that quote out of context, considering how it could also mean that Vader's power never equaled Sidious's own. It only implies that before, Anakin's power equaled Sidious's. I have that interview. Nowhere - nowhere - does it outright say that Anakin's power is equal to that of Sidious's. You are going off of implications that could have easily been misread or taken out of context.
An implication made by Lucas doesn't have the authority to overrule the movies and subsequent works. An outright statement? Yes. But you're going off of an implication.
Anakin's power (if you are referring to mastery of the Force) is not on par with Sidious's or Yoda's. He has not shown himself to be a Force titan as of RotS (save for uncontrollable instances of raw anger and aggression). It is stupid to argue otherwise.
His saber prowess? In the right state of mind, Anakin is likely the most capable lightsaber user in the PT. In raw power? Yes, his power does much more than "equals" Palpatine's own.
But if you're talking about overall power - as in Force power - no, he is not.
Once again, DS, an implication means nothing.
Originally posted by darthsith19Dude listen, again if i had the best weapon in the world and i dunno sh!t how to use it, would it be of any use? get my metaphor? anakin lacks mastery, accept it son
I wish I could believe what you're saying, Gideon, but, unfortunately, Lucas overrules the movies, so there's really nothing to debate. Unless there's another, more recent quote from Lucas that contradicts the first one then it's fact.
By the way obi wan > anakin in the force
Originally posted by Gideon
No, Darthsith. There is something to debate. I think you're simply pulling this stunt to try to break some sort of taboo, and it is ridiculous. You're taking that quote out of context, considering how it could also mean that Vader's power never equaled Sidious's own.
And how the hell did you get that from "From then on, he wasn't as strong as the Emperor?"
It only implies that before, Anakin's power equaled Sidious's.
Wrong, it's not an implication; "From then on, he wasn't as strong as the Emperor" indicates (not implies, indicates) that he was as strong as the Emperor before so.
I have that interview. Nowhere - nowhere - does it outright say that Anakin's power is equal to that of Sidious's.
Everyone has access to the interview, and that quote alone makes it clear, GL as good as outright stated it, it's perfectly clear.
You are going off of implications that could have easily been misread or taken out of context.
NO.
"From then on, he wasn't as strong as the Emperor"
Please explain how that quote doesn't indicate that he was as strong as the emperor before then. You're trying to act as if it's ambiguous or something, when it's not.
An implication made by Lucas doesn't have the authority to overrule the movies and subsequent works. An outright statement? Yes. But you're going off of an implication.
The statement is not an implication, and it holds as much weight as an outright statement.
Anakin's power (if you are referring to mastery of the Force) is not on par with Sidious's or Yoda's. He has not shown himself to be a Force titan as of RotS (save for uncontrollable instances of raw anger and aggression). It is stupid to argue otherwise.
Bullshit. Clearly you missed where he brought down a 50ish foot statue down with the force in a cutscene from the RotS video game, which is perfectly canon according to Leland Chee.
His saber prowess? In the right state of mind, Anakin is likely the most capable lightsaber user in the PT. In raw power? Yes, his power does much more than "equals" Palpatine's own.But if you're talking about overall power - as in Force power - no, he is not.
Lucas > You.
Once again, DS, an implication means nothing.
Except it's not an implication. You lose, unlucky.
Sorry guys, you can believe what you want, go with the movies, but the truth is Lucas is the highest source of Canon. Gideon, how am I taking it out of context, what else could it possibly mean? Kadesh, what the f*ck is up with the weapon scenario? That isn't relevant to anything we're talking about. And I'm older than you, son. 😐
Originally posted by darthsith19
Gideon, how am I taking it out of context, what else could it possibly mean?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but does Lucas have a general habit of directly contradicting the movies that he made? Perhaps shedding light on a subject that was vaguely implied upon, but other than that, I can't think of him doing so on a continuing basis.
Lucas has never stated in an interview or otherwise that Anakin's strength equaled the Emperor's. Never. You have an implication made off of a quote, which is contradicted by the movies themselves. Anakin was unable to overcome Obi-Wan in a "Force push" contest. They stalemated and were both flung apart. Likewise, if he were "as powerful", then why did he not simply slaughter Obi-Wan like we know Sidious or Yoda could do? Or why did he not butcher Dooku, who is weaker than Sidious - especially when Obi-Wan was there to help him?
There are far too many inconsistencies, and the movies disagree. Now, if Lucas says "Anakin is as powerful as Sidious", then I'll believe it. 'Til then, I don't. Anakin's lightsaber prowess is on par with Sidious's (and likely better), but his Force power? No. Hell no.