Mad Jim Jasper vs Thanos with IG

Originally posted by Galan007
Your delving way too deep in this whole situation.

And I did answer your question.

If you don't feel I did, then look at some of my other posts.

how too deeply? if the warp was just UK-sized, and within it he could do ANYTHING, like, say, making it appear that he created a universe, then how can you know for sure that he DID affect the whole 616?

that's not very deep, and it seems to support what was mentioned in the handbook as to the limits of jaspers warp. 😬

could he have created the affect (made it appear that he had affected the whole 616) by making a warp that was only the size of the UK? if you answered that someone else, please direct me to the page because i don't remember reading that reply . . .

Originally posted by Galan007
The Panels never say that the U.K. was all Jaspers Warped.

The panels show Jaspers JUST warping the UK, (so it would be speculation to assume his warp extended further than it was shown to)

the story where he was doing the warping was titled "Anarchy in the UK"

Jaspers was accosted NOT for causing havoc to the planet or the universe (as he surely would be if he did) but just for the UK

The handbooks state Jaspers enveloped just the world.

All you have is a statement saying Jaspers created everything, which is inconclusive, but given the fact that it occurs within his reality warp, it can be interpreted according to my interpretation. The handbook did the same thing. 😬

Originally posted by leonidas
how too deeply? if the warp was just UK-sized, and within it he could do ANYTHING, like, say, making it appear that he created a universe, then how can you know for sure that he DID affect the whole 616?

that's not very deep, and it seems to support what was mentioned in the handbook as to the limits of jaspers warp. 😬

could he have created the affect (made it appear that he had affected the whole 616) by making a warp that was only the size of the UK?

Originally posted by Galan007
That was never implied during the story, nor was it implied that Jaspers only warped the U.K.

It was implied that Jaspers warp focused on the UK. In fact thats all that was depicted on panel. My last post talks through that.

Originally posted by leonidas
meh, you never answered either part of my question.

could jaspers have created a warp around the UK that would/could APPEAR to have contained WITHIN the country-sized/world-sized warp, the entire universe, complete with galaxies, or is that NOT within the scope of his power?

if it IS within his power, anyone WITHIN the field of his warp (in the UK or on earth) would see whatever jaspers wanted (including a 'universe'😉, but anyone NOT within that sphere wouldn't have been affected at all, like, say, the kree. or galactus. or . . .

again, do you have proof that jaspers warp actually affected the ENTIRE 616, or proof that this was absolutlely NOT a smaller warp that made it APPEAR as though the entire universe was contained within it? sticking to his words, if the latter is true, his words would also be true -- he WOULD have created everything within his warp -- a universe, essentially. but that does not mean he 'actually' affected the entire 616, but rather only those within his warp-field.

unless of course you have definitive proof he DID affect the whole 616 . . .

Proof has been posted, numerous times.

And when Jaspers says, he created the Stars, they are OUTSIDE,

NOT in the building.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The panels show Jaspers JUST warping the UK, (so it would be speculation to assume his warp extended further than it was shown to)

And where on the pannel does it say that MJJ only warped the U.K.?

Originally posted by Galan007
That was never implied during the story, nor was it implied that Jaspers only warped the U.K.

was it implied that he DID affect the whole 616, or was their any collorary evidence -- ie -- some sense that someone NOT on earth was affected by his warp?

and you continue to NOT answer my questions . . . 😉

Originally posted by Mr Master
Proof has been posted, numerous times.

And when Jaspers says, he created the Stars, they are OUTSIDE,

NOT in the building.

His warp was also outside. Jaspers was within his warp. So he could very well have created stars within his warp.

Originally posted by leonidas
was it implied that he DID affect the whole 616, or was their any collorary evidence -- ie -- some sense that someone NOT on earth was affected by his warp?

Interpret it how you will, but I don't see how one can think this statement implies only a reality warp in only the U.K.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Proof has been posted, numerous times.

And when Jaspers says, he created the Stars, they are OUTSIDE,

NOT in the building.

he could make them appear to be anywhere he wanted to within the universe he created within his warp. how can you gauge the size of the warp when he could make the 'inside' of the warp appear to be the size of the universe?

Originally posted by Galan007
As it would be speculation to assume that's all he warped.

And where on the pannel does it say that MJJ only warped the U.K.?

You can only go by what was shown to occur on panel. Me saying that Jaspers only warped the planet is not speculation as that is all he was shown to do. You saying that he warped more would be speculation as you have no on panel depiction of that or an account from a reputable source stating that to be the case.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
You can only go by what was shown to occur on panel. Me saying that Jaspers only warped the planet is not speculation as that is all he was shown to do. You saying that he warped more would be speculation as you have no on panel depiction of that or an account from a reputable source stating that to be the case.

I don't think I can say the exact same thing one more time without killing myself. 😱

*queue some sort of cocky response*

Originally posted by Galan007
He made everything, he made the stars........ The same crap that keeps getting posted.

Interpret it how you will, but I don't see how one can think this statement implies only a reality warp in only the U.K.

this is getting silly. he could make a warp the size of a single room if he chose. within that room he could make it appear as though he had recreated the universe and affected the whole 616.

BUT HE WOULD NOT HAVE.

anyone NOT in that single room would be wholly unaffected by him.

what definitive proof do you have that this was not the case? what definitive proof do you have that the entire 616 was actually warped?

Originally posted by leonidas
this is getting silly. he could make a warp the size of a single room if he chose. within that room he could make it appear as though he had recreated the universe and affected the whole 616.

BUT HE WOULD NOT HAVE.

anyone NOT in that single room would be wholly unaffected by him.

what definitive proof do you have that this was not the case? what definitive proof do you have that the entire 616 was actually warped?

Originally posted by Galan007
I'm done.

I don't think I can say the exact same thing one more time without killing myself. 😱

*queue some sort of cocky response*

Originally posted by leonidas
this is getting silly. he could make a warp the size of a single room if he chose. within that room he could make it appear as though he had recreated the universe and affected the whole 616.

BUT HE WOULD NOT HAVE.

anyone NOT in that single room would be wholly unaffected by him.

what definitive proof do you have that this was not the case? what definitive proof do you have that the entire 616 was actually warped?

oh, and by that SAME reasoning, if we, as readers, were ONLY shown the INSIDE of that room, we would think/assume that it WAS the whole 616 that was affected.

the only way we would know otherwise would be to have a source OUTSIDE that warp tell us. like, say, a handbook, or a character who was KNOWN to be outside the warp field.

Originally posted by Galan007

😂

i'll take that to mean you cannot answer my questions without admitting that the scenario i laid out IS a possibility AND that you have no evidence to definitively support your idea aside from the fact that within his warp he said he created everything, a claim that is likely totally accurate and which in no way contradicts anything i brought up.

coolio.

😄

Originally posted by leonidas
😂

i'll take that to mean you cannot answer my questions without admitting that the scenario i laid out IS a possibility AND that you have no evidence to definitively support your idea aside from the fact that within his warp he said he created everything, a claim that is likely totally accurate and which in no way contradicts anything i brought up.

coolio.

😄

I figured you or GS would say something like that, which is why I said this in my original post:

Originally posted by Galan007
*queue some sort of cocky response*

FYI, if someone doesn't wish to continue a debate, there is a possibility that a given user is simply tired of talking in circles and doesn't wish to continue in that area.

Why must ego's always get involved when debating?

Originally posted by HigH ScholaR
Thanos taks this, he just issues a command disabling jim jaspers ability

Thanos: Jim jasper no longer has his reality altering abilities in this universe.

Jaspers Warped the 616 Universe conclusively.

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