Mad Jim Jasper vs Thanos with IG

Originally posted by Mr Master
Whatever,

we ALL agree that Jaspers 616 WARPED the 616 Universe,

you're Not going to change that with your biased logic,

not now not ever.

Dont speak for the forum. You dont have the right to. Please acknowledge that. 😄

Why is my knowledge biased? Because it is contrary to your delusions? 😂

You can believe whatever you want to believe but as long as your unsupported on panel and by official sources, a fat lotta good that'll do you on these forums!! 😱 😆

Originally posted by Mr Master
Right,

Jaspers 238 was only capable of it too. 😎

Who said that? I certainly never. Please read posts properly before talking your mess. 🙂

I dont doubt Jaspers could warp the universe, im doubting that thats what he did actually do.

On panel he wasnt depicted warping anything but the planet, the official bio supports this and all you have is an ambiguous line from Jaspers about him creating everything and creating the stars (forgetting that within his global reality warp that he was actually shown to have made, that could very well be the case.) 😉

Nuff said

Originally posted by Mr Master
Jim Jaspers is the 616 Universe ....

Jaspers wasn't lying,

"I made everything actually, I made the sky, I made the Tiger the Lamb"

"I made the Stars"

And who said the Bio diagrees?

"BOTH Jaspers could EFFORTLESSLY WARP REALITY on a DIMENSION-WIDE SCALE"

(excerpt from the Official Marvel 2006 Jaspers Bio)

yawn

Originally posted by Galan007
[b]On-Panel MJJ said he made EVERYTHING including the STARS.

Your opinion is that this means he just warped the planet.

The other panel evidence would show otherwise.

I'm done with this though....... it gets far too repeditive. [/B]

On panel youre right Jaspers did say that. You however are speculating that he meant the entire universe. Youre forgetting to acknowledge the fact that the story all took place in the U.K and that Jaspers was only ever shown warping the country. His reality warp only ever covered the U.K on panel and the handbook said possibly the planet. With that in mind Jaspers saying he created everything is true because he would determine everything within his warp. Your speculation is unsupported on panel and officially via the bios account of what happened.

Just to reiterate im not saying he couldnt warp the universe, im just disputing your assertion that he actually did during his time on panel.

Please show me where this was depicted and it was actually stated, prove me and the bio wrong or step down.

Handled on the previous page:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/439931_6-mad-jim-jasper-vs-thanos-with-ig

As ever, with nothing new to say, with no conclusive on panel evidence to back your point, no on panel evidence to prove mine and the official bio entry wrong, you resort to reposting your tired opinion.

Carry on Mr Master. 🙂

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
and that Jaspers was only ever shown warping the country.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Please show me where this was depicted and it was actually stated, prove me and the bio wrong or step down.

See what I mean about this repetitive thing? 🙄

There's no point in debating with gs anymore,

overwhelming evidence contradicts his claims, both On Panel and in the Bio and still he goes on ...

firefirefireph

😆

Originally posted by Galan007
Except for the part where he made Everything including that Stars.

Given the fact that he was only ever shown on panel to have warped the U.K , given the fact that he was only ever accosted for doing harm to a COUNTRY:

then that could easily be interpreated as he determined everything within his reality warp.

You are speculating and you are contradicted by on panel events and an official handbook entry. You are not in a good position. ❌

Originally posted by Galan007
He made Everything including the Stars, blah, blah, blah.

See what I mean about this repetitive thing? 🙄

Provide some evidence that actually states the point youre trying to make, because that ambiguous statement alone is useless when it comes alongside on panel evidence and statements showing his reality warp covered just the UK and possibly the planet. Within his reality warp he would determine "everything". Your ambiguous statement can therefore be explained away.

What else have you got Galan? Go on tell me. 😖hifty:

Handled ambiguous statement VS Contrary on panel evidence + A supporting Handbook Entry.

👇

Originally posted by Mr Master
There's no point in debating with gs anymore,

overwhelming evidence contradicts his claims, both On Panel and in the Bio and still he goes on ...

What overwhelming evidence would that be? 😕

I'm not arguing that he couldn't warp the universe. Its clear that he could and thats all your evidence and your handbook entry are useful in proving. 🙁

I'm arguing against the fact that he actually did warp the entire universe.

On panel he was shown to have warped the UK, and he was accosted for warping just the UK.

The handbook bio states that his warp covered just the UK and presumably the planet.

In light of that on panel occurrence and depiction, Jaspers unspecific statement about being responsible for creating "everything" can be interpreted as him determining "everything" in his warp as he certainly wasn't shown to have created anything beyond the global. The handbook as aforementioned saw it that way as well. 😄

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Given the fact that he was only ever shown on panel to have warped the U.K , given the fact that he was only ever accosted for doing harm to a COUNTRY:

then that could easily be interpreated as he determined everything within his reality warp.

You are speculating and you are contradicted by on panel events and an official handbook entry. You are not in a good position. ❌

Provide some evidence that actually states the point youre trying to make, because that ambiguous statement alone is useless when it comes alongside on panel evidence and statements showing his reality warp covered just the UK and possibly the planet. Within his reality warp he would determine "everything". Your ambiguous statement can therefore be explained away.

What else have you got Galan? Go on tell me. 😖hifty:

Handled ambiguous statement VS Contrary on panel evidence + A supporting Handbook Entry.

👇

But I'm wrong right?

Making Stars is now a Planetary change right? 🙄

The way GalacticStorm talks to other members is disguisting.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
GalacticStorm's way of act against other members is disgusting.

Originally posted by Galan007
"I made [b]everything actually, I made the sky, I made the Tiger, the Lamb............... "I made the Stars":

But I'm wrong right?

Making Stars is now a Planetary change right? 🙄 [/B]

Determining everything, within his global reality warp is something he could do as a reality warper. Physics and scientific laws dont apply:

Your trying to clown me by applying real world logic to the effects brought about by a reality warper? 😕 If anything with that in mind youre the one in need of a clowning my friend 😬

Either way, on panel he only ever warped the UK, possibly the planet.

He was only ever on panel accused of warping the UK

The handbook supports the fact that he only ever did anything global.

You have no evidence, other than an ambiguous sentence which can be explained away. Not good enough.

firefirefireph

"I made everything actually, I made the sky, I made the Tiger the Lamb"

"I made the Stars"

Originally posted by Galan007
I used to think it was confined to just Phoenix threads......... I was wrong. 😱

Not being rude to you, im just debating a point. How in doing that am i showing disgusting behaviour to you? 😕

For you to take a rude and insulting stance towards me for arguing against you is disgusting conduct for a member. 😬

galan, are you saying:

(a) that the entire 616 was affected by the warp? ie -- ronan and the kree, galactus, the warp affected everything? if not, where do you suppose the warp ended? imagine the warp as a bubble. anything within that bubble would have been created by jaspers -- ie, the stars. you seem to be saying/implying he made the bubble (the warp) large enough to encompass the entire universe. gs seems to be saying he made it large enough to encompass the UK but that he COULD have made it large enough to encompass the universe. i truly have no opinion, but am curious about your opinion in regards to the extent of this warp.

and

(b) do you have proof to support the claim that this warp was large enough to encompass the 616. IF such is your claim . . .?

Originally posted by leonidas
(b) do you have proof to support the claim that this warp was large enough to encompass the 616. [b]IF such is your claim . . .? [/B]

"I made everything actually, I made the sky, I made the Tiger the Lamb"

"I made the Stars"

I even see a Galaxy in the distance, it seems.

Originally posted by leonidas
galan, are you saying:

(a) that the entire 616 was affected by the warp? ie -- ronan and the kree, galactus, the warp affected everything? if not, where do you suppose the warp ended? imagine the warp as a bubble. [b]anything within that bubble would have been created by jaspers -- ie, the stars. you seem to be saying/implying he made the bubble (the warp) large enough to encompass the entire universe.[/B]

In a nuttshell......

MJJ states that he made everything. Including the stars.

This is far more then a U.K. warp, (how can anyone see it differently)?

Originally posted by Galan007
I've presented my point several times now with GS, and the scans illustrating my point are all over this thread.

In a nuttshell......

MJJ states that he made [b]everything. Including the stars.

This is far more then a U.K. warp, (how can anyone see it differently)? [/B]

Jaspers word alone isnt enough. Thats what you need to get into your head.

It is not enough when he is by canon a deluded man

When on panel he is only ever shown warping the UK

When on panel he is only held responsible for causing damage to the UK

When what he actually says isnt conclusive and can easily mean everything within his warp which he was standing in. In his warp Jaspers could make what he calls stars, which look like stars and then reach up and pluck them out of his sky and eat them like apples. Its his reality warp everything within is determined by him. The reality warp on panel was only shown and illustrated to cover the UK.

The handbook stated this.

In a nutshell, youre speculating about Jaspers words and interpreting those words how you want things to be. Youre not acknowledging what Jaspers actually did on panel, how big his warp was shown to be, even the fact that he was within his warp and taking that all into consideration when looking at that ambiguous, vague statement.

Either way you have no on panel source through word or illustration verifying the fact that Jaspers warped more than the planet. You have that one sentence and youre speculating based on the fact that Jaspers CAN warp the universe. Thats not good enough.

Originally posted by Mr Master
"I made everything actually, I made the sky, I made the Tiger the Lamb"

"I made the Stars"

I even see a Galaxy in the distance, it seems.

yawn

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Jaspers word alone isnt enough. Thats what you need to get into your head.

It is not enough when he is by canon a deluded man

When on panel he is only ever shown warping the UK

When on panel he is only held responsible for causing damage to the UK

When what he actually says isnt conclusive and can easily mean everything within his warp which he was standing in. In his warp Jaspers could make what he calls stars, which look like stars and then reach up and pluck them out of his sky and eat them like apples. Its his reality warp everything within is determined by him. The reality warp on panel was only shown and illustrated to cover the UK.

Well heck, I'll remember that in the next Phoenix thread. 🙄