Originally posted by illadelph12
😱He vaporized an angel???
He took down the Greek Pantheon AND the Hindu Pantheon. That's an enormous feat. Especially the Hindu Pantheon, if any one has studied it.
He made Brahma and Shiva his b*tches....
He pretty much did defeat Heaven. But he couldn't take the Godwave. It was too much for him.
Originally posted by dvampire
What's the deal with the annihilation scans? 😕
Originally posted by dvampire
What fighting/reflexive he ever show? Are they faster than Thor and Thanos now?
Originally posted by dvampire
Bloodlusted WW with the items she's given plus the GW, again, gives her the majority IMO (this decision remains unchanged).
Originally posted by Draco69
He took down the Greek Pantheon AND the Hindu Pantheon. That's an enormous feat. Especially the Hindu Pantheon, if any one has studied it.He made Brahma and Shiva his b*tches....
He pretty much did defeat Heaven. But he couldn't take the Godwave. It was too much for him.
That went down well in the second largest nation by population on Earth then? ❌
Originally posted by illadelph12
That was it. Good lookin' out homie.
Originally posted by illadelph12
But now that I think about it, if he's destroying a plague (retrovirus) at a molecular level, he is pretty much re-writing dna, but it's not actually stated, so I won't make the inference. That's still a major feat of organic matter manipulation.
Originally posted by Priest
show how powerful he has become, easilly pickin off a planet. more importantly fight one between Surfer and Ravenous, Ravenous did land some blows, keeping surfer on his toes.
http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1fl5.jpg
granted surfer not holding back still kicks the crap out of Ravenous.
http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2mr0.jpg
After his "upgrade" surfer just toys with Ravenous ( a already proven herald calliber character)..destroying a planet and such.Thor and Thanos does have better h2h skills than Surfer, but surfer's other powers makes up for wat he lacks in hand to hand fighting.
But in Planet Hulk, surfer did have a good showing n using H2H skills.No, a blood lusted surfer devolves her into a monkey. Or turns her into harmless rocks with a wave of the hand. My last few posts proves that he can manipulate organic matter.
Diana is immune to molecular control. Unless you think the surfer is messing with the hand of Zeus? THis isn't regular old WW. This is WW with ALL of her weapons and abilities. YOu'd have to be pretty silly to think surfer can win all of them. Becuz no one can beat Diana with all of her weapons and powers unless they are a sky father. ANd surfer isn't that at all. Circe beats Surfer 8 ways to sunday even with an upgrade and yet she has even stated that she can't put WW down. Now Imagine Diana with ALL of her weapons. WTF. Ten times the strength and invulnerability? Magically amped with an indestructible shield and sword able to seriosly wound Gog.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Diana is immune to molecular control. Unless you think the surfer is messing with the hand of Zeus? THis isn't regular old WW. This is WW with ALL of her weapons and abilities. YOu'd have to be pretty silly to think surfer can win all of them. Becuz no one can beat Diana with all of her weapons and powers unless they are a sky father. ANd surfer isn't that at all. Circe beats Surfer 8 ways to sunday even with an upgrade and yet she has even stated that she can't put WW down. Now Imagine Diana with ALL of her weapons. WTF. Ten times the strength and invulnerability?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Magically amped with an indestructible shield and sword able to seriosly wound Gog.
Originally posted by Priest
show how powerful he has become, easilly pickin off a planet. more importantly fight one between Surfer and Ravenous, Ravenous did land some blows, keeping surfer on his toes.
http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1fl5.jpg
granted surfer not holding back still kicks the crap out of Ravenous.
http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2mr0.jpg
After his "upgrade" surfer just toys with Ravenous ( a already proven herald calliber character)..destroying a planet and such.Thor and Thanos does have better h2h skills than Surfer, but surfer's other powers makes up for wat he lacks in hand to hand fighting.
But in Planet Hulk, surfer did have a good showing n using H2H skills.No, a blood lusted surfer devolves her into a monkey. Or turns her into harmless rocks with a wave of the hand. My last few posts proves that he can manipulate organic matter.
Surfer didn't obtain any sort of quote on quote "power up" during Annihilation. It was more so a change in morals and personality than anything else.
Galactus wiped the mental blocks Surfer obtained from the "earth woman" during his time on earth. Galactus simply gave him back his will to fight.
Originally posted by Priest
has she ever resisted matter manitpulation? 😕Please gog is not skyfather.
you obviously have no Idea. When Gog was created, IT was said that he had the collective power of all of the knowlege of the quintessense. Each one is a sky father or higher. PS is abstract. She was made to resist matter transmutation as sersi has tried and failed.
you see if writen right every fight would end so quick. there be no point of the comic. i can't remmeber in one comic not sure which one it was, but someone was attacking surfer and but wih just a thought the guy fell to the floor holding his stomuch in pain
think about it if doom rex can do that with surfers powers when surfers powers were depowered and was not exprienced like surfer was what will a full powered surfer do
I've been following this thread for a while, wanting to reply, but I haven't because, frankly, I'm not that familiar with Wonder Woman; and certainly, how she would be with her full arsenal is open to anyone's guess. I can see how she would be immensely formidable, but it's hard to back that up with no on-panel feats (obviously because there are none with full arsenal).
Surfer, on the other hand, has on-panel feats up the wazoo. Even imagining a bloodlusted SS is not as much a stretch of the imagination as imagining a full-arsenal WW (though regarding Diana's amped strength and durability: there is no limit, I'm aware of, as to how much Surfer could amp his own strength and durability).
The Surfer is basically like a dreadnought starship in human form. Bloodlusted? Imagine unleashing a rogue star upon the universe (indeed, if he can absorb the full power of a star in a few seconds, unleashing it would be equivalent to a real supernova burst, wiping out whole solar systems).
This would be a good fight. But if nothing else, Surfer is more experienced at "being Surfer" than Diana is at being full-arsenal WW.
In fairness to both, Bloodlusted SS wins 6/10.
Originally posted by Mindship
I've been following this thread for a while, wanting to reply, but I haven't because, frankly, I'm not that familiar with Wonder Woman; and certainly, how she would be with her full arsenal is open to anyone's guess. I can see how she would be immensely formidable, but it's hard to back that up with no on-panel feats (obviously because there are none with full arsenal).Surfer, on the other hand, has on-panel feats up the wazoo. Even imagining a bloodlusted SS is not as much a stretch of the imagination as imagining a full-arsenal WW (though regarding Diana's amped strength and durability: there is no limit, I'm aware of, as to how much Surfer could amp his own strength and durability).
The Surfer is basically like a dreadnought starship in human form. Bloodlusted? Imagine unleashing a rogue star upon the universe (indeed, if he can absorb the full power of a star in a few seconds, unleashing it would be equivalent to a real supernova burst, wiping out whole solar systems).
This would be a good fight. But if nothing else, Surfer is more experienced at "being Surfer" than Diana is at being full-arsenal WW.
In fairness to both, Bloodlusted SS wins 6/10.
I can agree that Diana would not be used to being so powerful with all of her gear and such. But Surfer would also not be used to fighting in a bloodlusted mode.
Originally posted by Mindship
Good point. But IMO Surfer ---> Bloodlusted Surfer is less of a stretch than Diana ---> full-arsenal Diana. Hers is a change in quality And quantity of power, while his is "just" a quality shift (I hope that made sense).
Has surfer ever fought a being with Ten times the strength of WW and Invulnerability and thousands of years Experience?
