Islam Questions

Started by Nellinator61 pages

Originally posted by muslimscholar
how can god put a part of himself in hell which he has made himself when he is powerfulest preson and he can do aynthing?
how can he let people kill him people who he has made on the earth he has created?
if he cant stop himself being killed by his own creation then how is he god?

1) He chose to go to Hell and defeated the devil taking the Keys of Life back so that we can have eternal life.

2) Because by dying He was the perfect sacrifice that fulfilled the Law. It was an act of love.

3) He could have at any time, He chose not to so that #2 could be done.

Originally posted by muslimscholar
also how come the bible is changed every year by catholic church if it is gods words that it shouldet be changed?

They change it every year, eh? That is sadly misinformed.

Originally posted by muslimscholar
also how come the bible is changed every year by catholic church if it is gods words that it shouldet be changed?

The actual text doesn't change, but what the pope says and the interpretation of the text changes.

Originally posted by Gregory
This is pointless for both of us. You're a bigot and an egomaniac* ("Someone disagrees with me? The only possibility is that he doesn't know what I know!"😉 and because of that, you can't understand why I'm disagreeing with you. You'll never understand. It's why I didn't address my post to you in the first place.

*Since you're not even pretending to be polite about this, I'm being blunter then I usually am

She was the same with me in the "How do you feel about Islam" thread. Very disappointing.

Originally posted by Gregory
For God's sake, don't I addres that in my post? Don't I explicitly state that they should have been allowed to do that?

Yes you do...doh!

Originally posted by Gregory
This is pointless for both of us. You're a bigot and an egomaniac* ("Someone disagrees with me? The only possibility is that he doesn't know what I know!"😉 and because of that, you can't understand why I'm disagreeing with you. You'll never understand. It's why I didn't address my post to you in the first place.

*Since you're not even pretending to be polite about this, I'm being blunter then I usually am


Please re-read your post.

You didn't disagree with me, you marely claimed that something which was written and established in Islam as true, wasn't.

If I say ''Christianity does not worship Jesus'' and you or anyone else quotes me exact verses in which it states that Christianity does exactly that, there isn't a ''you disagree with me'' its actually ''you are wrong on that particular matter''

You stated ''it would be if it was true''

You thus did not challenge my point of view, but claimed what I said was ''factually'' incorrect.

I didn't make up the Qur'an or the Hadith, I quoted from it.

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
She was the same with me in the "How do you feel about Islam" thread. Very disappointing.

I did exactly what to you? Pointed to the fact that you didn't know what I was refering to.
You didn't know where the phrase ''Third Islamic Invasion of Europe'' came from, thus your whole post about cultural invasion, weak ridiculing sarcasm.
All else you wrote, was irrelevant, since you evidently were not aware of the phrase, where it came from, nor what it meant.

yo i was wondering are mosques open to the public? like can anyone go there during the services or is it strictly for muslims?

There are certain requierments of what you should / should not wear, and you must take off your shoes before entering, but other requierments vary, depending on the Imam of the mosque.

I believe in most, you should be able to visit without a problem.

Originally posted by Nellinator
1) He chose to go to Hell and defeated the devil taking the Keys of Life back so that we can have eternal life.

he could destry the devil because he created the devil

2) Because by dying He was the perfect sacrifice that fulfilled the Law. It was an act of love.
the law who created the law he created the law he can overrule the law the law does not apply to him
it was an act of love?

3) He could have at any time, He chose not to so that #2 could be done.

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They change it every year, eh? That is sadly misinformed. [/B][/QUOTE]

Originally posted by muslimscholar
also how come the bible is changed every year by catholic church if it is gods words that it shouldet be changed?

God changes his mind every year

Originally posted by muslimscholar
he could destry the devil because he created the devil

2) Because by dying He was the perfect sacrifice that fulfilled the Law. It was an act of love.
the law who created the law he created the law he can overrule the law the law does not apply to him
it was an act of love?

3) He could have at any time, He chose not to so that #2 could be done.

????
They change it every year, eh? That is sadly misinformed.

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Yes, He could destroy the devil. That's part of the plan, the time is not come yet. Satan ultimately gets the fire and brimstone and is destroyed.
The Law does not apply to Him it is true, but He was obviously not fulfilling the Law for Himself, but for us, to whom the Law did once apply. He fulfilled it for us because we could not do it ourselves, part of the love thing.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I did exactly what to you? Pointed to the fact that you didn't know what I was referring to.
You didn't know where the phrase ''Third Islamic Invasion of Europe'' came from, thus your whole post about cultural invasion, weak ridiculing sarcasm.
All else you wrote, was irrelevant, since you evidently were not aware of the phrase, where it came from, nor what it meant.

Perhaps I could do a summery? Yes, I think I will.

You post an absurdly over the top bit of doom and gloom prediction about the fate of the world as we know it, somewhat connected to the controversial theory of a controversial historian - in a rather certain way, which of course any person with knowledge of political predictions will tell you are never as certain as you were making out.

I, in turn, find it rather amusing in a historical sense, and draw a comparison with another time when people where saying things like that - I choose to do it in a more humerus fashion (failing of course to remember when it comes to this subject you have no humor). I choose not to dwell on the fact you have not expanded on the actual meat of the "Third Invasion of Islam" theory, and present a counter theory that I think, from my studies, has more legs.I never imply I don't know what you are referring to. In fact such theories have existed ever since 9/11, though few of them are as well thought out as the good doctors.

Your response clearly shows your anger that anyone would dare disagree with your balanced, reasoned assessment, and you then try to have a go at insulting my posting style (weakly sarcastic, shit long), me (politically correct bleater) and my intelligence and education (never read a book on the subject, knowledge begins and ends with the forum etc.) You ignorantly claim only the US does any cultural influencing while somehow believing I posted something about how Islamic hordes would attack the US (I still don't know where that came from) and show why you get to say things like "the west will burn under Islam" (because you are doing a study on state based violence and got a chance to email the Prof!!!)

My response in turn (which seems to have killed that thread) reiterates my view - I know of the works of Israeli, got deeper into them and looked into his up coming book when he flew in to Australia and made a number of similar claims. I find some of his ideas interesting, but have doubts about some of his wider predictions (Eurabia amongst them). I then extrapolate somewhat on the counter theory I was presenting about what I see as a more likely direction Western/Islamic interaction could take (based upon my knowledge of political theory on that issue) to do with cultural give and take, and you, as such a big fan of Israeli should have recognised the immigration component - the same component used differently in two different theories.

Gregory was quite correct about how you respond on the issue of Islam -your post here proves it. I, or others, disagree with what you say and of course we know nothing about what you are talking about and as such any opinion we express should be disregarded.

Originally posted by Gregory

On an unrelated note--but since it was brought up--I understand al-Taqiyya to mean that Muslims can lie about their beliefs when their safety would otherwise be endangered. The definition that, "Muslim can lie to a non-Muslim for the benefit of Islam" is therefore a distortion.

Yes.. you're right ,Gregory 👆

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
Perhaps I could do a summery? Yes, I think I will.

I agree.

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
Perhaps I could do a summery? Yes, I think I will.

You post an absurdly over the top bit of doom and gloom prediction about the fate of the world as we know it, somewhat connected to the controversial theory of a controversial historian - in a rather certain way, which of course any person with knowledge of political predictions will tell you are never as certain as you were making out.

I, in turn, find it rather amusing in a historical sense, and draw a comparison with another time when people where saying things like that - I choose to do it in a more humerus fashion (failing of course to remember when it comes to this subject you have no humor). I choose not to dwell on the fact you have not expanded on the actual meat of the "Third Invasion of Islam" theory, and present a counter theory that I think, from my studies, has more legs.I never imply I don't know what you are referring to. In fact such theories have existed ever since 9/11, though few of them are as well thought out as the good doctors.

Your response clearly shows your anger that anyone would dare disagree with your balanced, reasoned assessment, and you then try to have a go at insulting my posting style (weakly sarcastic, shit long), me (politically correct bleater) and my intelligence and education (never read a book on the subject, knowledge begins and ends with the forum etc.) You ignorantly claim only the US does any cultural influencing while somehow believing I posted something about how Islamic hordes would attack the US (I still don't know where that came from) and show why you get to say things like "the west will burn under Islam" (because you are doing a study on state based violence and got a chance to email the Prof!!!)

My response in turn (which seems to have killed that thread) reiterates my view - I know of the works of Israeli, got deeper into them and looked into his up coming book when he flew in to Australia and made a number of similar claims. I find some of his ideas interesting, but have doubts about some of his wider predictions (Eurabia amongst them). I then extrapolate somewhat on the counter theory I was presenting about what I see as a more likely direction Western/Islamic interaction could take (based upon my knowledge of political theory on that issue) to do with cultural give and take, and you, as such a big fan of Israeli should have recognised the immigration component - the same component used differently in two different theories.

Gregory was quite correct about how you respond on the issue of Islam -your post here proves it. I, or others, disagree with what you say and of course we know nothing about what you are talking about and as such any opinion we express should be disregarded.

Isn't that interesting? Another long post about nothing.

All your knowledge of the phrase was shown in your weak attempt at sarcasm.

I think he phrased fairly accurately what my opinion of your position on Islam is as well.

Did he back it up with citations? No. But given eveidence that has been continually presented throught my time here, many people, including myself have presented counter-evidence.

Nevertheless, its a great perceptoin of the feeling I have.

Islam sucks it's that simple, I agree with Lil B

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Originally posted by Alliance
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Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Islam sucks it's that simple, I agree with Lil B

yes with people like you and lil b in the world no wounder there is no peace its seems to be your job to attack islam left right and center when ever you can i aint really botherd what you and lil b think because all you two think of is complete bull shit and very ignorant

Originally posted by muslimscholar
yes with people like you and lil b in the world no wounder there is no peace its seems to be your job to attack islam left right and center when ever you can i aint really botherd what you and lil b think because all you two think of is complete bull shit and very ignorant

It's just his opinion, why should it matter to you?