Literally, several people here must be mebers.
I wish I could have taken the mack in time to the 1800s in the US. Then they could save us from the Catholic Invasion of the Irish Negroes who are going to destroy the US force the Western world to submit to ignroant Catholic tyrrany.
...and yes, "Irish Negroes" is a historically accurate term and no, they were not actually black. It was a comparison to show just how stupid they were percieved to be.
Originally posted by AllianceLiterally, several people here must be mebers
Literally, several people here must be mebers.I wish I could have taken the mack in time to the 1800s in the US. Then they could save us from the Catholic Invasion of the Irish Negroes who are going to destroy the US force the Western world to submit to ignroant Catholic tyrrany.
...and yes, "Irish Negroes" is a historically accurate term and no, they were not actually black. It was a comparison to show just how stupid they were percieved to be.
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Originally posted by CosmicSurfer.
[B]There are some many holes and inaccuracies in your arguement here.I'll admit that Malaysia and Indonesia are the only places that Islam didn't spread "by the sword." But even these countries have a vast following funded by the Saudis themselves. They all practice a form of radical Islam known as Wahabism.
You do realise that Thailand suddenly has a serious problem with murders commited by muslims ever since the Thais appointed a Muslim general. They decapitated buddhist monks for cryin' out loud.
Even in Malaysia and Indonesia, christian girls were decapitated.
FACE IT:
Name one, ONE Islamic nation that tolerates other faiths? Go ahead, name one. Ever since the beginning, these idiots take over some other country and are always hellbent on destroying that nation's native culture and religion. And force Islam and sharia law upon them. They have no respect for other cultures and beliefs. These assholes are intolerable.
Look what happened to Persia, once a great nation that had Zoroastrianism as a major faith which was the first monotheistic religion influencing Judaism and Christianity, now is a mere shadow of it's former self.
Need I also mention that the Muslims were the ones that started the Crusades War?
I dont know from where do you get that shit ?? When Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) finally entered Makkah at the head of a Muslim army in AH 8, he did so not to force the Makkans to convert, but because they had violated their peace treaty with the Muslims. The Prophet entered with great humility, ordering that there should be no fighting or bloodshed. Instead, he forgave all those who had opposed him and the growth of Islam for so many years. Those who wanted to leave were allowed to do so. The whole city, so impressed by the men they had fought against for so long, converted to Islam
Keep in mind the example of Egypt, where although the Copts joyfully welcomed the Muslims' entry into Egypt, they did not immediately embrace Islam. It was only on an individual basis that the Egyptians converted to Islam. Even the Coptic man who was treated with impressive justice at the hands of Caliph `Umar (when `Umar punished the son of Egypt's ruler because the latter had unjustly lashed the Coptic man's son) did not embrace Islam (and no Muslim then ever thought to force him to do so).
"Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, and do not transgress limits (begin not hostility): For Allah loves not transgressors. (Al-Baqarah:190-193)
[QUOTE]Need I mention that Dubai *forbids* Jews to enter their city
Oh come on don't be so blind ..its Dubai not Mecca !
Adolf Hitler should be proud. Speaking of Nazis, a little known fact: during World War II......Hitler had a strong with the Arabs. Hitler's autobiography Mein Kampf is a best seller among Palestinian Arabs. Take that as you will.
Palestinian Arabs are themselves victims of these Zionists Nazis ..better mention hundreds of the brutal massacres occurring to them 😕
Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
Why exactly would "ex-Muslims" be so much more of a threat? Arguably Christianity has one of the largest proportions of ex-faithful around, plenty of who have become quite opposed to their former faith. Yet Christianity is still here.I would think education would be one of the biggest threats to outdated Islam, just like it was one of the biggest threats for outdated Christianity. Change can often best be initiated from the inside where actual enlightened followers are best able to render change in their faith. People who have left the faith - well, they often lack a lot of power to influence those who are steadfastly faithful. Otherwise most faiths would be dead by now if all it took was a good argument from someone outside the religion (we'd probably all be blessedly atheistic.)
I don't see Islam "being dismantled" anytime soon. Being brought into the current age though? Much more possible. And judging by the "moderate Muslims" that exist outside of places like Iran moderate Muslims have much more potential to change their faiths direction then those who have washed their hands of the faith altogether. Both are likely necessary, but where is change more likely to come from?
Christianity in the West is different, due to the librety practiced here. IE one can write a book about what one likes (well, within limits of reason) including something which compliely disards Christianity without being afraid for one life, or having death threats.
This is not the same with Islam, and the example we can use is Theo Van gogh, who was murdered for making a movie, in regards to Islam.
(called Submission, its on youtube for those who wanna see)
There are also few non-muslims talking about Islam, usually using stupid excuses such as 9/11 (like that has anything to do with anything) or Madrid bombings to claim all they needed to know about Islam was there.
Or that weird view that ''Middle Easteners who are savages!''
Right.
Others, who for example feel opposed to it for any number of reasons, cannot say so, because they will have a number of moral crusaiders calling them every name under the sun. Bigoted most likely, Islamophobic, etc.
Ex Muslims are Islam's biggest threat now. In the ''academic'' and ''public'' view and other.
Here are examples.
Ali Sina
Ibn Warraq
Taslima Nasrin
Parvin Darabi
Shaikh Anwar
Ayaan Hirsi Ali
Others
Salman Rushdie
Wafa Sultan
Walid Shoebat
Any contraversy brought on Islam was BY ex-Muslims. Not moderate Muslims, as they are too afraid to speak out. It was ex-muslims. Those who knew their life will be in danger, yet went on to say what they wanted too.
Islam cannot be reformed. It can't be molded. It is rigid but brittle. THAT is why Muslims do not tolerate criticism of it.
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I also want to say. I am begining to see what I was just stubborn to see before. And on one hand I complitely understand it.
West today is so anti-Christian, that some would turn to any religion without the actual regard for what it really is. Thats not tolerance, or love, thats just downright laziness and stupidity.
People should look objectivelly at the Islam they way they do at any other religion.
Middle East does not equal Islam. And I know it will not equal so forever.
I was not a fan of Shah at all, BUT...times under Shah were not as hard as they are under Allatoyahs.
People who have not lived in Dar Al-Islam cannot and will not understand the level of indoctrination Muslims undergo for their entire lives.
On the other hand, anyone opposing the system of the Middle East is classed as evil pro-Jew with alternative political motives and Anti-Muslim tendencies, bent on destroying the Ummah.
Originally posted by TRH
Zionists Nazis
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Fatima that is the most hilarious term I have ever heard in my life,of all the stupid things people have said,Nazis are white supremacists who want to exterminate Jews they cant support Jews to
Its true in some senses. "Targeted assassination" isn't a real democratic policy. However, it is an official policy of the Israeli government.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
There are also few non-muslims talking about Islam, usually using stupid excuses such as 9/11 (like that has anything to do with anything) or Madrid bombings to claim all they needed to know about Islam was there.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Any contraversy brought on Islam was BY ex-Muslims. Not moderate Muslims, as they are too afraid to speak out. It was ex-muslims. Those who knew their life will be in danger, yet went on to say what they wanted too.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Islam cannot be reformed. It can't be molded. It is rigid but brittle. THAT is why Muslims do not tolerate criticism of it.
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Originally posted by lil bitchiness
West today is so anti-Christian, that some would turn to any religion without the actual regard for what it really is. Thats not tolerance, or love, thats just downright laziness and stupidity.
People should look objectivelly at the Islam they way they do at any other religion.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I was not a fan of Shah at all, BUT...times under Shah were not as hard as they are under Allatoyahs.
Originally posted by lil bitchinessAll Muslims, really? Can you see all the way up to your stomach yet?
People who have not lived in Dar Al-Islam cannot and will not understand the level of indoctrination Muslims undergo for their entire lives.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
On the other hand, anyone opposing the system of the Middle East is classed as evil pro-Jew with alternative political motives and Anti-Muslim tendencies, bent on destroying the Ummah.
Anyone opposeing Bush in the US is classified a terrorist-hugging-troop-killing-anti-American. What can we learn from this? Governments don't like people who oppose their views. Nothing special to Islamic governments and plainly visible to anyone who does the slightest comparison.