Originally posted by TRH...
Hindu is still the majority in India because Islam was unable to defeat there army's
Anywho, the Muslims that were in India because of the Mogul rule are in Pakistan and Bangladesh which were once part of India. The Muslims left India to go to these two countries for the sake of peace, although I guess that didn't work out too well (Kashmir comes to mind).
Originally posted by muslimscholar
is it thats why ustman bin affan bought so many slaves and freed them in the name of allah is it thats why abu baker freed so many slaves including bilal
if islam is spread by the sword tell me which muslim army went to thiland?
which muslim army went to america?
if islam was spread bu the sword then how come when mulims ruled india they wre still the minority if islam was spread by the sword they could have made the whole of india muslim but they did not because evan now hindus are the majority there this proves islam was not spread by the sword and allah says in the quran the is consumption in religon
There are some many holes and inaccuracies in your arguement here.
I'll admit that Malaysia and Indonesia are the only places that Islam didn't spread "by the sword." But even these countries have a vast following funded by the Saudis themselves. They all practice a form of radical Islam known as Wahabism.
You do realise that Thailand suddenly has a serious problem with murders commited by muslims ever since the Thais appointed a Muslim general. They decapitated buddhist monks for cryin' out loud.
Even in Malaysia and Indonesia, christian girls were decapitated.
FACE IT:
Name one, ONE Islamic nation that tolerates other faiths? Go ahead, name one. Ever since the beginning, these idiots take over some other country and are always hellbent on destroying that nation's native culture and religion. And force Islam and sharia law upon them. They have no respect for other cultures and beliefs. These assholes are intolerable.
Look what happened to Persia, once a great nation that had Zoroastrianism as a major faith which was the first monotheistic religion influencing Judaism and Christianity, now is a mere shadow of it's former self.
Need I also mention that the Muslims were the ones that started the Crusades War?
Need I mention that Dubai *forbids* Jews to enter their city. Adolf Hitler should be proud. Speaking of Nazis, a little known fact: during World War II......Hitler had a strong alliance with the Arabs. Hitler's autobiography Mein Kampf is a best seller among Palestinian Arabs. Take that as you will.
Originally posted by CosmicSurfer
Islam is nothing more than a male supremacist and racist religion. For well over a thousand years, they've been fighting the jews. They spread their religion through pillaging, war and mayhem. They forced other nations to convert or to face either death or high taxes. They have zero tolerance for other faiths. They burned down the library of Alexandria in Egypt and destroyed ancient buddhist texts and monuments in India.
For over a thousand years they have been fighting the Jews? Certainly from the founding of Islam their has been contention between the two cultures - but let us not make out Islam was unique in this. Pretty much every major power in that part of the ancient world had its turn in having a go at the Jews.
The claim they forced conversion at the under the threat of death or high taxes? Historically simplistic and as such misleading. Likewise in the spread of it as simply the product of "war and pillaging". And in ancient times during certain of the caliphates predominantly Islamic nations were tolerant to a degree of other faiths - in terms of the time in which they existed. True intolerance only became a truly powerful force with the introduction of the Turks.
They destroyed the Library of Alexandria? Any person reasonably knowledgeable about this would point out it is highly contentious and merely one of any number of theories about who/when might be responsible. The library is believed to have burned on a number of occasions. Some histories tentatively claim its final burning occurred during this period - but culprits, well, very shaky You can't claim it for fact. In fact there is another theory that Christians were responsible due to a law about destroying Pagan institutes. And their is no real proof that Islamic expansion was underpinned by an academic scorched earth policy. In fact the opposite, since caliphates such as the Abbasids operated from a strong foundation of existing knowledge drawn the east. But yes - they definitely destroyed things in war - which regrettably happens, and once again, in the interests of history lets not pretend this was unique to Islamic nations.
Take that as you will. And I stand by everything I wrote because it is the truth.
Well, I am convinced.
For all you african american posters, here's any interesting fact on slavery:The arab muslims and even other blacks were the ones who used blacks as slaves and these arabs sold them to,.......that's right you guessed it, colonists of pre-america.
Certainly. The Arabs in the past were one of many slave trading nations who drew upon Africa throughout history. And what of European slave traders - most historical sources seem to suggest they may have had something to do with slaves getting to the US.
Not that I am questioning you of course - I mean everything you type is true.
Name one, ONE Islamic nation that tolerates other faiths? Go ahead, name one. Ever since the beginning, these idiots take over some other country and are always hellbent on destroying that nation's native culture and religion. And force Islam and sharia law upon them. They have no respect for other cultures and beliefs. These assholes are intolerable.
Turkey is legally classified as a secular nation and its constitution assures freedom of religion. Does that translate into true tolerance? Not really. And I think I am starting to question you - you have a rather backwards and singular view of history of that period. But hey, if your happy, that is what matters.
Look what happened to Persia, once a great nation that had Zoroastrianism as a major faith which was the first monotheistic religion influencing Judaism and Christianity, now is a mere shadow of it's former self.
Technically Persia was a lame duck before Islam assimilated it, thanks mostly to fruitless wars with Christian Byzantium which pretty much destroyed its ability to stop itself being taken by healthier opponents - which was the way of the ancient world. And let us not forget Persia's had a history of religious intolerance as well at times.
Need I also mention that the Muslims were the ones that started the Crusades War?
They declared war on themselves 😱
And the Crusades was a series of different wars. But I can accept the Muslims started things like the Children's crusade. Or the one that led to the sacking of Christian Constantinople.... wait, what am I saying?
Need I mention that Dubai *forbids* Jews to enter their city. Adolf Hitler should be proud. Speaking of Nazis, a little known fact: during World War II......Hitler had a strong alliance with the Arabs. Hitler's autobiography Mein Kampf is a best seller among Palestinian Arabs. Take that as you will.
A strong alliance? Just not as strong as his alliances with numerous other nations. But eh. Actually if I am not mistaken Saudi Arabia claimed neutrality through most of the war (though there were Axis trade deals early on) and gradually moved towards the Allies as the war progressed. Since you know so much about history (ummm...) I am sure you know what F.D Roosevelt's views on the matter were - the whole how vital S. Arabia was to the Allied war effort with its oil and how it had to be defended.
And of course Neo Nazi Muslims are just as stupid as any Neo-Nazi since Nazi policy would have been no way favourable or beneficial to Islamic nations.
CS-during World War II......Hitler had a strong alliance with the Arabs. Hitler's autobiography Mein Kampf is a best seller among Palestinian Arabs. Take that as you will.
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as a armature WW2 historian I knew this and tried tell them earlier and was ridiculed for it
This thread has become a comic of bigots. Personally, right now I would feel perfectly comfortable joining up with Islamic militants and destroying the West.
Not every MUSLIM is ISLAMIC. You people call yourselves educated? You have your already blind eyes shoved so far up your asses. Hell, if we cant get over our xenophobic ignorance here in the West, how the hell do we expect uneducated tribal leaders to do so.
Honestly, the stuff people ***** about in this thread makes me ashamed to be human...to call myself educated.
By "you" do you mean me? Because if you do, I am confused. If not then...
I think the answer to your last question is media and ignorance. Another thing is that like many people do with the Bible, many people take the Koran out of context. It is sad and leads to much of the confusion and ignorance that there is. Quoting Koran scriptures in an attempt to show an evil in Islam does not show understanding.
I'm not tallking specifically to you.
And yes, sound byting does not lead to an understanding. Does every Christian take every aspect of the Bible literally? Hell no. WHy do Muslims have to be Islamicists. They don't have to live and breathe only the magical negative sound bytes in passages.
There is crime in some Muslim majority nations. Big effing deal. People base bombing abortion clinics on religious beliefs, but you don't see anyone going off on how demonic Christianity is and how its trying to take over the world or spread by the sword.
People don't care to understand, they care about flaming posters who claim to hold an alternative view...sounds like the very Islamicism they're trying to fight. Whose the monster now?
Originally posted by AlliancePersonally, right now I would feel perfectly comfortable joining up with Islamic militants and destroying the West.
This thread has become a comic of bigots. Personally, right now I would feel perfectly comfortable joining up with Islamic militants and destroying the West.Not every MUSLIM is ISLAMIC. You people call yourselves educated? You have your already blind eyes shoved so far up your asses. Hell, if we cant get over our xenophobic ignorance here in the West, how the hell do we expect uneducated tribal leaders to do so.
Honestly, the stuff people ***** about in this thread makes me ashamed to be human...to call myself educated.
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Considered that before
Originally posted by Alliance
I'm not tallking specifically to you.And yes, sound byting does not lead to an understanding. Does every Christian take every aspect of the Bible literally? Hell no. WHy do Muslims have to be Islamicists. They don't have to live and breathe only the magical negative sound bytes in passages.
There is crime in some Muslim majority nations. Big effing deal. People base bombing abortion clinics on religious beliefs, but you don't see anyone going off on how demonic Christianity is and how its trying to take over the world or spread by the sword.
People don't care to understand, they care about flaming posters who claim to hold an alternative view...sounds like the very Islamicism they're trying to fight. Whose the monster now?
Well, actually sometimes we do hear that.
Funnier when most just copy and paste from bashing websites made by other idiots. Take most bashing posts in here and put it in google and you magically get a very familiar website...