What's So Bad About Hudlin? Really?

Originally posted by BlueDMighty
Fair

...and you know what. I thought things were getting better in terms of black superheroes, it comes to my attention that there still seem to be not nearly enough black mutants.

In all afirness the black female mutants are quite cool, but most of the decent black male mutants have been either killed off or been depowered. That is a pile of **** and things have not improved as much as I thought. All we got is:

1. Shole Inkosi
2 Gentle
3. Darwin. (half hispanic, but its would be nice if he was completely black)
4. Apocoalypse. (Doesnt look black so you could get away with that)

Bishop doesnt count hes aborignial and so is Gateway, its good that theyve added them but I want more black males. Please correct me if im wrong.

Originally posted by llagrok
Yeah, the important thing isn't that their personalities match, but the colour on their skin.

I mean isn't it completely unfeasible that two people with different skin colour would marry each other? Those wacko writers who paired Storm up with Gambit and Wolvie oughta be shot 🙂

I love how you just tried to do that whole "Turn it back around on him thing".

You mean is it completely unfeasible that two people with the same skin color would marry each other?

Apparently, as far as "main stream" media (comics/cartoons/TV) are concerned, yes.

about that i'll say this:

9/10 couples in comic books that have a black person envolved are Bi-racial period. Or are single parents.

They had Storm kissin every body and they're momma in the mouth back in those days (none of whom were black) it was like writers would pass her around like it won't shit. where were the Feminists and people that think Hudlin "deminishes" her character at then.

All of a sudden she marries a Black King, and all of a sudden it dosen't make sense.

Originally posted by BlueDMighty

They had Storm kissin every body and they're momma in the mouth back in those days (none of whom were black)

What black mutants were there in those days anyway. Its not even like things have improved that much.

Originally posted by Alfheim
...and you know what. I thought things were getting better in terms of black superheroes, it comes to my attention that there still seem to be not nearly enough black mutants.

In all afirness the black female mutants are quite cool, but most of the decent black male mutants have been either killed off or been depowered. That is a pile of **** and things have not improved as much as I thought. All we got is:

1. Shole Inkosi
2 Gentle
3. Darwin. (half hispanic, but its would be nice if he was completely black)
4. Apocoalypse. (Doesnt look black so you could get away with that)

Bishop doesnt count hes aborignial and so is Gateway, its good that theyve added them but I want more black males. Please correct me if im wrong.

You're not wrong. I like Darwin. I wish they would quit Bullshittin and show us what Gentle can do already.

Apocoalypse I'd like to think he was Black, but being Egyption might make that debateable (HBO's Rome cast a white woman as Cleopatra as have several other Hollywood productions)

Originally posted by Alfheim
What black mutants were there in those days anyway. Its not even like things have improved that much.

I'd cop to that

Originally posted by BlueDMighty

Apocoalypse I'd like to think he was Black, but being Egyption might make that debateable (HBO's Rome cast a white woman as Cleopatra as have several other Hollywood productions)

I think he is blantantly black but because he doesnt look black they can get away with making him more popular. Thats why female black characters tend to be better than black male characters, people are less threatened.

Hell why do you think they gave Storm straight hair and blue eyes back in the day?

2007 and thats all they done.....its crap. No two ways about it. No doubt somebody is gonna come on here and tell me to stop b*tching, im just gonna show them the big **** off list. Hell I would have been happy if they hadnt depowered or killed those other guys.

Who is Shole Inkosi?

Originally posted by BlueDMighty
Who is Shole Inkosi?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shola_Inkosi

Shola is a self-described "combat telekinetic" and also has a low-level of telepathic abilities. His telekinetic abilities are mostly destructive in nature, but he has also displayed precise fine motor control, the peak of which was obliterating a granite slab to dust, removing that dust from clothing and the surrounding environment, compacting the dust into a granite spear, then re-obliterating the spear back into dust (shown in Mekanix). However, in the Excalibur series his powers were mostly destructive. 😎

I might start a thread about this and start b*tching.

Originally posted by Alfheim
I think he is blantantly black but because he doesnt look black they can get away with making him more popular. Thats why female black characters tend to be better than black male characters, people are less threatened.

Hell why do you think they gave Storm straight hair and blue eyes back in the day?

Fair.

I have a HUGE problem with terms "Non-threatening" and "Universal appeal"

However, I have a cousin in Chicago that is Shiney, Onyx Black and she has Stone cold BLUE EYES (go figure/ if baby was'nt my cousin i'd have tried to holla)

The White hair and Blue eyes make Storm Unique (it also helps her cross over).

Originally posted by BlueDMighty
Fair.

I have a HUGE problem with terms "Non-threatening" and "Universal appeal"

However, I have a cousin in Chicago that is Shiney, Onyx Black and she has Stone cold BLUE EYES (go figure/ if baby was'nt my cousin i'd have tried to holla)

The White hair and Blue eyes make Storm Unique (it also helps her cross over).

Well ok, but something tells me if they created Storm now they would not have given her blue eyes and straight hair.

What did you think was a fair point? This is the thing if there were more black mutants I wouldnt think that, but since hardly **** aint changed thats what I think.

Originally posted by Alfheim
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shola_Inkosi

[B]Shola is a self-described "combat telekinetic" and also has a low-level of telepathic abilities. His telekinetic abilities are mostly destructive in nature, but he has also displayed precise fine motor control, the peak of which was obliterating a granite slab to dust, removing that dust from clothing and the surrounding environment, compacting the dust into a granite spear, then re-obliterating the spear back into dust (shown in Mekanix). However, in the Excalibur series his powers were mostly destructive. 😎

I might start a thread about this and start b*tching. [/B]

De powered and left to wander in obscurity? Do the X-men writers/editors hate black people (still got love fer ya CC, why do people keep F'in up your Black people)?

There are Two black Mutants that I know of (now) Storm and Gentle.
everyone else is mixed, ambiguous, or Caucasian.

Joanna Cargill is still a mutant...she became one of my favourites during the Magneto Rex storyline. Mainly because of that confrontation with Quicksilver.
Also Tempo is still a mutant.

Originally posted by Alfheim
I think he is blantantly black but because he doesnt look black they can get away with making him more popular. Thats why female black characters tend to be better than black male characters, people are less threatened.

I agreed with this part.

ex. Ross might have made it easier for "other" people to follow the Black Panther without feeling threatened by his dominance.

ex. in my opinion, Jean Grey was given the Phoenix to compete with Storm and make her more interesting. That also meant that Storm would no longer be the most powerful person on the team.

ex. Spawn is a black character, but then again he isn't (being burnt beyond recognition and being dead makes him a Zombie/monster. who apperantly is easier to relate to than a black character.) Bigups to Todd for even making the attempt and creating an awsome story at the same time.

However, "Universal Appeal" struck Spawn as he whent from Comic to screen
with them casting a "Universally Appealing" actor instead of a Black Man to play Terry.

Or, casting a "Universally Appealing" Woman to play Chapel (who they turned into Priest) for the sake of a wider audiance. (Say it aint so Todd. Say it aint so.)

Marvel tried to give black comic fans a "make up call" when they cast John Coffee as the Kingpin, and the black lady for Alicia Masters (i wonder if she'll be black/back when the Surfer Rises)

But, in my opinion it was a wasted PR move. Don't change characters to fit the demand. Create intelligent, well thought ou characters to fill the demand.

and then, don't depower and or kill their ass.

Originally posted by Alfheim
2007 and thats all they done.....its crap. No two ways about it. No doubt somebody is gonna come on here and tell me to stop b*tching, im just gonna show them the big **** off list. Hell I would have been happy if they hadnt depowered or killed those other guys. [/B]

I agree with this also, and have been b*thing (it's the priciple of the thing yamean)

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Joanna Cargill is still a mutant...she became one of my favourites during the Magneto Rex storyline. Mainly because of that confrontation with Quicksilver.
Also Tempo is still a mutant.

who are they?
oh, and Monet is black (but the more they draw her the lighter she gets. 😕 hmmmm)

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Joanna Cargill is still a mutant...she became one of my favourites during the Magneto Rex storyline. Mainly because of that confrontation with Quicksilver.
Also Tempo is still a mutant.

Wow! Is that it? In all fairness im satisfied with the black female characters but even they are pityfully scant. Where are the black guys?

Anarchist - Dead
Sync - Dead
Maggot - Dead
Bedlam - Dead
Prodigy - Depowered
Tag - Depowered

Hell if they had kept them alive and left them with their powers I couldnt argue that there not trying.

It makes you wonder doesnt it? When you have that joke everytime you have a black guy in a sci-fi film they get killed off, because its looks like thats whats happening here.

It proves my point that people are threatened by black male characters. Thats why female black characters tend to be better and thats why all the people who go killed or depowered where black guys.

Its a bloody joke. No wonder Hudlin's pissed.

Originally posted by BlueDMighty
who are they?
oh, and Monet is black (but the more they draw her the lighter she gets. 😕 hmmmm)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempo_(comics)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joanna_Cargill

Monet isn't black 😬

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempo_(comics)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joanna_Cargill

Monet isn't black 😬

Ok. I remember them now. But they haven't too many showings as of late.

Monet is of Moroccan descent just like Storm in Ultimate X-men (are you saying Storm isn't black in UlXM?) .

Originally posted by Alfheim
Wow! Is that it? In all fairness im satisfied with the black female characters but even they are pityfully scant. Where are the black guys?

Anarchist - Dead
Sync - Dead
Maggot - Dead
Bedlam - Dead
Prodigy - Depowered
Tag - Depowered

Hell if they had kept them alive and left them with their powers I couldnt argue that there not trying.

It makes you wonder doesnt it? When you have that joke everytime you have a black guy in a sci-fi film they get killed off, because its looks like thats whats happening here.

It proves my point that people are threatened by black male characters. Thats why female black characters tend to be better and thats why all the people who go killed or depowered where black guys.

Its a bloody joke. No wonder Hudlin's pissed.

Tag is depowered and dead
Prodigy is about to hear some "Slow Singin" too.

Originally posted by BlueDMighty
Ok. I remember them now. But they haven't too many showings as of late.

Monet is of Moroccan descent just like Storm in Ultimate X-men (are you saying Storm isn't black in UlXM?) .

They both appeared in Mike Carey's X-Men Annual #1. And are part of Exodus' new Acolytes.

Monets mother was Algerian her father was from Monaco. 😬

BTW Just for reference sake there aren't only black people in Morroco. There are a lot of brown people as well.

Originally posted by BlueDMighty
Tag is depowered and dead
Prodigy is about to hear some "Slow Singin" too.

This is what they were probably thinking "Lets make some more black mutants, keep them around for a bit to make the black readers happy but kill them off because we cant have too many cool black characters."

What a complete waste of time. Created the characters so they could kill them off. I dont care, let Hudlin do whatever he wants, when Marvel can get there finger outta there arse then maybe Hudlin wouldnt be so pissed.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak

Monets mother was Algerian her father was from Monaco. 😬

BTW Just for reference sake there aren't only black people in Morroco. There are a lot of brown people as well.

Well Algerians arent black, well most of the ones ive seen. I guess her father must have been black then.