Mace Windu Vs Darth Nihilus

Originally posted by Lightsnake
For good reason, yes

That's highly ignorant, to be honest.

Nihilus couldn't kill an unsuspecting Traya.
Mace can defend against Sidious' (a more powerful Sith) force attacks (of "unlimited power"😉 using Vaapad.

Mace could eat him in saber combat.

Did nihilus drain traya? No, all he did was gave her a simple force push which weakened her connection to the force as you noticed when she was unable to reach out to her lightsaber with the force and also when she stated she was "Cast down and stripped of her power".

Originally posted by jollyjim311
Nihilus couldn't kill an unsuspecting Traya.

It's not that he couldn't, he didn't, based on the fact that he already thought she was dead. It's a testament to his arrogance and carelessness more than anything, not a lack of skill.

Mace can defend against Sidious' (a more powerful Sith)

Proof that he's more powerful?

force attacks (of "unlimited power"😉 using Vaapad.

Right, and so because Sidious yelled out "unlimited power" in triumph, it means his power is unlimited. 🙄

[/quote]Mace could eat him in saber combat.[/QUOTE]

Any proof for this?

Why do you think that Mace would destroy Nihilus in a Lightsaber duel? Because we cannot gauge Nihilus' skills, it's just as logically simple to say Nihilus could smash Mace because he'd ruin him force-wise.

I say we just stick to the neutral. Leave it be that we cannot determine who'd win in a Lightsaber duel.

Because we know Mace is a freaking monster and one of the best saber duelists who ever lived.

We cannot say the same of Nihilus

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Because we know Mace is a freaking monster and one of the best saber duelists who ever lived.

We cannot say the same of Nihilus

So you assume he's bad? That's not right, to be honest.

Well I'd say for someone to hold up an entire ship with the force, being greatly weakened and starved, and fighting the Jedi Exile, Visas and the Mandalore at once and even causing Visas to lose hope and see them losing this match, as a pretty strong person....

nihilus is slightly underrated in my opinion

For a guy who can destroy an antire planet, he is prety weak, the exile defeted him easily, and probaly to do those things that were mentioned he neds a lot of time to prepeare, like mediteting, he cant just do it in a moment, then exile woud be destroyed in seconds when Nihilus first saw himwalking to him on the bridge.

Actually, I think Nihilus does pull it instantly, the thing is that the Exile is a wound in the force, thus when Nihilus tries to drain him, he only grows weaker....

I my opinion, these ancient sith are eu and thus are overpowered, like Mace Windu destroys an entire army by himself in CWC, but we all saw from AOTC in Geonosis Execution arena their was 200 jedi and they would all be killed if it wasn't for the clones. And just because they are ancient, dosent makes them automatically more poverful, what did the force knowledge deteriorated in 1000 of years so the PT jedi are so weak against the ancient Sith-i dont think so.

Nope, that is not the case, heck I'd put most PT people above the ancient, at least if you compare average to average. But in this case, in Nihilus case, we don't have any other source than the one we got, and in it, he is pretty powerful. Not saying he is more so than Mace, but damn powerful indeed. I don't see Mace parrying his force drain, not for a second, and without it, I still don't see Mace pwning him....

But wasn't it said that Yoda had a defence for every darks side power, and it sas id wokipedia that Mace coud defend against Sidious force lightning with Wapad, turning his anger against him, why cant he do tha same against Nihilus, im my opinion weaker sith.

Originally posted by Count Makashi
But wasn't it said that Yoda had a defence for every darks side power, and it sas id wokipedia that Mace coud defend against Sidious force lightning with Wapad, turning his anger against him, why cant he do tha same against Nihilus, im my opinion weaker sith.

It's more than just your opinion. Sidious in the most powerful.

And other than your spelling mistakes, I don't necessarily see why Mace couldn't defend against it.

i agree that Sidious is the strongest sith, butt you have people here arguing this.
And for my spelling, i am not from English speaking country, butt will try my beast.

By RotS, he's clearly not the most powerful, and I'd argue against even his DE incarnation as well. It's in no way a fact. And what you need to get is that Mace Windu used a lightsaber defence for the lightning, not a force defence. That kind of defence can only be used against tangible attacks, so it's pretty much irrelavent in regards to N's drain.

Originally posted by jollyjim311
It's more than just your opinion. Sidious in the most powerful.

And other than your spelling mistakes, I don't necessarily see why Mace couldn't defend against it.

Now deflect a onslaught of lightning with you lightsaber is one thing. To fight against a "being" that drains the force from you without anything visible sign except your own feelings of getting weaker, is hardly see Mace defent himself against his drain and let us not forgot why the exile wasn't killed.

Lightning also drains life, and "it is a challenge for even the most powerful Jedi Masters to deflect such bursts."

Ultimate Visual Guide.

And Vaapad shoots the darkside back at the user..

If they hit you, I didn't see Obi-wan kenobi having any problems deflecting Dookus lightning and again in the first Thrawn trilogy the lightning only hurt Luke when they hit him, not draining his life just by touching his saber.