Would Christians crucify Christ?

This exchange got me thinking:

Originally posted by Regret [QUOTE=8302964]Originally posted by Thundar
Yup, and remember the same scriptures used to tempt Christ, were the same scriptures used to get Satan's sons(the Pharisees) to justify calling Christ himself a demon.

Current mainstream Christianity would have killed Christ as well. [/QUOTE]

Does anyone else see similarities between the Pharisees and mainstream Christianity? Anyone else think that if Christ came now, in a similar manner, that mainstream Christianity would have a similar opinion of Christ as his old world detractors?

Well isn't it said in the Book of Revelations that he would not be recognized by most of his followers when he returns?

Originally posted by Regret
Does anyone else see similarities between the Pharisees and mainstream Christianity? Anyone else think that if Christ came now, in a similar manner, that mainstream Christianity would have a similar opinion of Christ as his old world detractors?

Certainly.

I thought that Jesus would return and convert everyone to Islam. 😉

Jesus didn't convert anyone. People founded a religion based on his teachings.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I thought that Jesus would return and convert everyone to Islam. 😉

Originally posted by Regret
This exchange got me thinking:

[B]The pharisees were not the sons of Satan 😆 They were individuals like yourself. They were men that interpreted the scriptures narrowly and always believed they were correct. They believed they knew what the scriptures said concerning God being only one, and so Christ existing made him two, so they talked the Romans into believing he claimed to be "King", they vicariously killed him because they were right in their interpretation. They thought they had the spirit of God aiding them in their interpretation and study, they believed they were saved and that they did not need prophets to guide them, they believed that everything that God would say to man had already been said, those that offered a different interpretation were obviously of the Devil 🙄 ... sounds disturbingly like the attitude adopted by mainstream Christianity to me.

Current mainstream Christianity would have killed Christ as well. [/b]

Does anyone else see similarities between the Pharisees and mainstream Christianity? Anyone else think that if Christ came now, in a similar manner, that mainstream Christianity would have a similar opinion of Christ as his old world detractors?

Thats funny. I was unaware that Christ's teachings were so similar to the OT. Is the NT just superfelous then?

Originally posted by Alliance
Thats funny. I was unaware that Christ's teachings were so similar to the OT. Is the NT just superfelous then?

What I've always loved about revelation is that it seems like there is no way to tell the difference between the AntiChrist and Christ until its too late.

Originally posted by FeceMan
In a way, yes. I've contemplated this for years. However, it would depend on how biblically sound Christ's teachings were. If he started saying things such as that there was no such thing as sin, that all humans were basically good, etc., then I myself would deny him.

Originally posted by Alliance
Thats funny. I was unaware that Christ's teachings were so similar to the OT. Is the NT just superfelous then?

I agree with Alliance, in a way. The Pharisees believed Christ teachings were not Biblical. The NT does/did not fit a Jewish perspective on the OT. If it were, all Jews would have become Christian. I believe the two can and do fit together, but they do not necessarily fit from everyone's perspectives, it is dependent on the interpretations used.

Thats kind of what I was getting at. Jesus obviously grounded his teaching in the OT (the "Bible" of the time if you will), but they were so radically different that later Christians felt thier holy text needed to be rewritten...hence the NT.

If there was another Christ like figure in human history and he presented a radically different picture, most Christians would not believe. If Christ2.0 taught that there was no sin, Fece wouldn't believe, as many others would not. The ones that did, would probably create a NNT and schism off from Christianity today. The NNT woudl radically redefine the NT and the OT, just as we saw with Christ with the NE and the OT.

I don't think he'd have to teach "new" things to get the Pharisee type response. Christians often believe Christ clarified the errors the Jews had with the teachings of the OT. I think if he came now, and clarified the errors existing in modern Christianity they would believe him the Antichrist for it.

Jesus and Budda will come down from heaven to battle mohhamed and they will fight to stalemate and call a truce and open up a bar on the Suset Strip

Originally posted by TRH
Jesus and Budda will come down from heaven to battle mohhamed and they will fight to stalemate and call a truce and open up a bar on the Suset Strip

Hmm . . .

*goes to make a thread*

Originally posted by Regret
This exchange got me thinking:

The pharisees were not the sons of Satan 😆 They were individuals like yourself. They were men that interpreted the scriptures narrowly and always believed they were correct. They believed they knew what the scriptures said concerning God being only one, and so Christ existing made him two, so they talked the Romans into believing he claimed to be "King", they vicariously killed him because they were right in their interpretation. They thought they had the spirit of God aiding them in their interpretation and study, they believed they were saved and that they did not need prophets to guide them, they believed that everything that God would say to man had already been said, those that offered a different interpretation were obviously of the Devil 🙄 ... sounds disturbingly like the attitude adopted by mainstream Christianity to me.

Current mainstream Christianity would have killed Christ as well.

Does anyone else see similarities between the Pharisees and mainstream Christianity? Anyone else think that if Christ came now, in a similar manner, that mainstream Christianity would have a similar opinion of Christ as his old world detractors?

Was it really necessary to open up a flame thread Regret because we have a difference of philosophies? The only point you've made that is in actuality true, is the fact that one should always be open to the opinions of others, particularly since we are fallible beings.

But if you ask me, you appear to be the one acting more "pharisaical" with your current actions as opposed to myself. That being said I'll let this be my one and only post within your thread, thus with the responses that follow, you'll only continuing to provide evidence to support your position.

Originally posted by Thundar
But if you ask me, you appear to be the one acting more "pharisaical" with your current actions as opposed to myself.

Originally posted by Thundar
Was it really necessary to open up a flame thread Regret because we have a difference of philosophies? The only point you've made that is in actuality true, is the fact that one should always be open to the opinions of others, particularly since we are fallible beings.

But if you ask me, you appear to be the one acting more "pharisaical" with your current actions as opposed to myself. That being said I'll let this be my one and only post within your thread, thus with the responses that follow, you'll only continuing to provide evidence to support your position.

Originally posted by Regret
I don't think he'd have to teach "new" things to get the Pharisee type response. Christians often believe Christ clarified the errors the Jews had with the teachings of the OT. I think if he came now, and clarified the errors existing in modern Christianity they would believe him the Antichrist for it.

Exactly. There was a reason Christ needed credibility....

Originally posted by Thundar
Was it really necessary to open up a flame thread Regret because we have a difference of philosophies? The only point you've made that is in actuality true, is the fact that one should always be open to the opinions of others, particularly since we are fallible beings.

This is not a flame thread at all. Its a brilliant point about how Christianity has become just like its opressors.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE

😱😆

Originally posted by Alliance
Exactly. There was a reason Christ needed credibility....

Originally posted by Alliance
This is not a flame thread at all. Its a brilliant point about how Christianity has become just like its opressors.

Thanks for the defense there Alliance 🙂

I have been considering this idea for a long time. The LDS religion places a lot of import on the symbolism and symmetric nature of existence. As such, I believe it possible that Christ's birth and reactions of that time will be repeated in a similar, albeit perhaps very differently appearing, manner. I believe that, even if my religion is the correct one, many of the most solid detractors from Christ at the Second coming will come from the Christians. Given this view, the question obviously would arise over time from me, Thundar merely provided a stimulus that increased the probability of it occurring now in this forum.