Would Christians crucify Christ?

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Originally posted by Magee
Why?

Why do people devote their life to a mythical being?
He does not exist
I can not understand it one bit, it really does confuse me.
I CANT UNDERSTAND HOW SOME ONE COULD BELEIVE ALL THIS STUPID NONSENSE.
The bible is not to be taken literally. I have nothing against Christians or any other religion. People (the majority) who beleive the bible to be fact and "the word of GOD" are just insane. Only idiots, people scared of death and people with an agenda beleive the bible to be correct on every page.

DO NOT TAKE THE BIBLE literally, IT IS A BOOK OF MORALS, A BOOK ON HOW TO LIVE A GOOD AND LOVING LIFE THAT WAS WRITTEN 2000 YEARS AGO.

I ask all Christians and people of all faith to think about what they truly beleive in. There is not the single most piece of evidence to suggest any of these gods exist, ever did or ever will or any of there stories ever happened, hell half them don't even make sense and would be impossible to achieve. Please think about it, DO NOT TAKE THE BIBLE AT FACE VALUE, IT IS A BOOK OF METAPHORS AND TEACHINGS.

Why? 😐

Some people find comfort in a world that they can understand.

Originally posted by Magee
Why?

Why do people devote their life to a mythical being?
He does not exist
I can not understand it one bit, it really does confuse me.
I CANT UNDERSTAND HOW SOME ONE COULD BELEIVE ALL THIS STUPID NONSENSE.
The bible is not to be taken literally. I have nothing against Christians or any other religion. People (the majority) who beleive the bible to be fact and "the word of GOD" are just insane. Only idiots, people scared of death and people with an agenda beleive the bible to be correct on every page.

DO NOT TAKE THE BIBLE literally, IT IS A BOOK OF MORALS, A BOOK ON HOW TO LIVE A GOOD AND LOVING LIFE THAT WAS WRITTEN 2000 YEARS AGO.

I ask all Christians and people of all faith to think about what they truly beleive in. There is not the single most piece of evidence to suggest any of these gods exist, ever did or ever will or any of there stories ever happened, hell half them don't even make sense and would be impossible to achieve. Please think about it, DO NOT TAKE THE BIBLE AT FACE VALUE, IT IS A BOOK OF METAPHORS AND TEACHINGS.

Why? 😐

Well, you've already come to the conclusion that there isn't a God or anything like that. So the real "WHY?" is your own.

Why are you asking these people to share their personal faith with you when you know you're going to reject it?

Originally posted by debbiejo
Interesting........thought when Christ died the graves were opened and all that were in the graves went up. Up to where?
Could the view of resurrection mean the mind, spirit, soul? More a metaphor? Just as like the "I am in all things, even in hell"...paraphrased of course by Job.............Everywhere............the whole being of this and ones choice to it ? Not literal mind you...Or is it?
Mormons believe in a literal physical resurrection as was shown in Christ's resurrection.

Yes, a few have already resurrected, it began with the death and resurrection of Christ. A general and complete resurrection begins at the second coming though.

Originally posted by debbiejo
We will be at the end of the resurrection then........the end of the judgment you mean...(White Thrown Judgment) ..........Left lane or right lane you mean. Still this means that Eden is now back in play, yes? Over again yet with a whole group?
I am unsure of what you are getting at here. No one is cast out in the judgement after Armageddon. After Armageddon men enter the position they are able to maintain. Eden is existent in some form, but one must ask whether the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil were not metaphorical in some way, given this, I do not know to what extent Eden is literally present again. I believe Biblical beliefs must be open minded to the possibility of fulfillment of prophecy and interpretation of scripture anywhere on the spectrum from close minded literal to extreme abstract metaphorical. As to position within "heaven", here is a Mormon scripture on the subject, it is long, and its entirety is worth perusing for an understanding of our view of what the final "judgement" is. I have bolded the sections that directly answer you question as I understand your question.

Doctrine and Covenants 88:15-40

14 Now, verily I say unto you, that through the redemption which is made for you is brought to pass the resurrection from the dead.
15 And the spirit and the body are the soul of man.
16 And the resurrection from the dead is the redemption of the soul.

17 And the redemption of the soul is through him that quickeneth all things, in whose bosom it is decreed that the poor and the meek of the earth shall inherit it.
18 Therefore, it must needs be sanctified from all unrighteousness, that it may be prepared for the celestial glory;
19 For after it hath filled the measure of its creation, it shall be crowned with glory, even with the presence of God the Father;
20 That bodies who are of the celestial kingdom may possess it forever and ever; for, for this intent was it made and created, and for this intent are they sanctified.
21 And they who are not sanctified through the law which I have given unto you, even the law of Christ, must inherit another kingdom, even that of a terrestrial kingdom, or that of a telestial kingdom.
22 For he who is not able to abide the law of a celestial kingdom cannot abide a celestial glory.
23 And he who cannot abide the law of a terrestrial kingdom cannot abide a terrestrial glory.
24 And he who cannot abide the law of a telestial kingdom cannot abide a telestial glory; therefore he is not meet for a kingdom of glory. Therefore he must abide a kingdom which is not a kingdom of glory.
25 And again, verily I say unto you, the earth abideth the law of a celestial kingdom, for it filleth the measure of its creation, and transgresseth not the law—
26 Wherefore, it shall be sanctified; yea, notwithstanding it shall die, it shall be quickened again, and shall abide the power by which it is quickened, and the righteous shall inherit it.
27 For notwithstanding they die, they also shall rise again, a spiritual body.
28 They who are of a celestial spirit shall receive the same body which was a natural body; even ye shall receive your bodies, and your glory shall be that glory by which your bodies are quickened.

29 Ye who are quickened by a portion of the celestial glory shall then receive of the same, even a fulness.
30 And they who are quickened by a portion of the terrestrial glory shall then receive of the same, even a fulness.
31 And also they who are quickened by a portion of the telestial glory shall then receive of the same, even a fulness.
32 And they who remain shall also be quickened; nevertheless, they shall return again to their own place, to enjoy that which they are willing to receive, because they were not willing to enjoy that which they might have received.
33 For what doth it profit a man if a gift is bestowed upon him, and he receive not the gift? Behold, he rejoices not in that which is given unto him, neither rejoices in him who is the giver of the gift.
34 And again, verily I say unto you, that which is governed by law is also preserved by law and perfected and sanctified by the same.
35 That which breaketh a law, and abideth not by law, but seeketh to become a law unto itself, and willeth to abide in sin, and altogether abideth in sin, cannot be sanctified by law, neither by mercy, justice, nor judgment. Therefore, they must remain filthy still.
36 All kingdoms have a law given;
37 And there are many kingdoms; for there is no space in the which there is no kingdom; and there is no kingdom in which there is no space, either a greater or a lesser kingdom.
38 And unto every kingdom is given a law; and unto every law there are certain bounds also and conditions.

39 All beings who abide not in those conditions are not justified.
40 For intelligence cleaveth unto intelligence; wisdom receiveth wisdom; truth embraceth truth; virtue loveth virtue; light cleaveth unto light; mercy hath compassion on mercy and claimeth her own; justice continueth its course and claimeth its own; judgment goeth before the face of him who sitteth upon the throne and governeth and executeth all things.

If this doesn't address your question properly I may need it clarified, or reworded.

Originally posted by Magee
Please think about it, DO NOT TAKE THE BIBLE AT FACE VALUE, IT IS A BOOK OF METAPHORS AND TEACHINGS.
I believe Biblical beliefs must be open minded to the possibility of fulfillment of prophecy and interpretation of scripture anywhere on the spectrum from close minded literal to extreme abstract metaphorical. If the Bible is true, the truth is not necessarily completely metaphorical or literal. What it is, is a religious text that may be meant to be taken anywhere on a spectrum from literal to metaphorical. If it is true, then all the philosophies as to aproach are irrelevant, and an open minded view should be taken until such a time as absolute nature of the text is known.

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